User:Skriibz/sandbox

Basic Combos

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Stand OFF

Basic Jab Combo Any combination of 5A or 2A into 5B. Basic

Standard Routeㅤ 2A/5A, 5A/2A, 5B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 2A, 2A, / 5A, 5A 5B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)

Quick and easy. Unfortunately, note that 2A doesn't actually hit low.

3B Confirm Simple slide into overdrive, command grab or custom combo. Basic

Standard Routeㅤ 3B xx 236+A/B / 360 / 214+S (CC)

Be sure to practice the timing for the command grab followup.

File:HFTF Oldseph 3BConfirm.mp4

Dashing Confirms Go fishing Basic

Standard Routeㅤ d.5A/d.2A/d.5B/d.2B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)

These buttons are some of your best neutral tools and hitconfirm options due to their range and active frames. d.2A and d.2B can be very useful to low-profile certain attacks.

File:HFTF Oldseph DashingConfirms.mp4

Jump-in Command Grab Combo Easy but there are better options. Basic

Standard Routeㅤ j.A/j.B/j.C 360
Alternative Route s.j.a/s.j.b/s.j.c 360

Generally, your command grab can also be ticked into if your jumping attack is guarded. The most advantageous time to go for 360 without a proper confirmed combo is on block, as if a jump-in hits you can secure a lot more damage with a full combo.

File:HFTF Oldseph Jump-inGrab.mp4

Jab Command Grab Combo Fundamental grappling Basic

Standard Routeㅤ 5A/2A xx 360+A/B/C

Learning the timing to correctly connect with the command grab is very important, as being either too fast or too slow will result in the grab missing the target. This applies to pretty much every combo utilising the 360 command grab. Again, likely more useful if you're ticking into your command from a blocked jab.

File:HFTF Oldseph JabCommandGrabCombo.mp4

Heavy Button Confirms Simple button into special or super. Basic

Standard Routeㅤ 5C/2C xx 236+A/B / 623+A/B/C / 214+S (CC)

5C can be quite good for this due to it's range and disjoint. Every version of 623X is unsafe on hit, so this is only useful if you know it's going to secure the round. Note that 623+C does the most damage and but also the most unsafe.

File:HFTF Oldseph HeavyButtonConfirms.mp4

Dashing Sweep Combo Most advanced Young Joseph combo Basic

Standard Routeㅤ d.2C xx 236+A/B / 236+AA

Since dashing 2C launches the opponent, this allows you to follow up with Overdrive and in some situations, the Uppercut super (best used in the corner). One of the only good uses of it.

File:HFTF Oldseph DashingSweepCombo.mp4

Stand ON

Stand ON Knockdown Chain Basic Stand ON chain combo into hard knockdown Basic

Standard Routeㅤ s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.5A > s.5B > s.3C

One of your few good chain combos.

File:HFTF Oldseph StandONKnockdownCombo.mp4

Command Grab Combo Your go-to ender Basic

Standard Routeㅤ s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A / s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B
Alternative Route s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A / s.5A xx s.360+A/B

Basic combo into your command grab. Absolutely essential for the character. The alternative route is technically easier, however you lose out on some damage and meter gain. Just do whichever you feel most comfortable with.

File:HFTF Oldseph CommandGrabCombo.mp4

Far Hermit Grab Combo Simple conversion Basic

Standard Routeㅤ s.236+A/B/C (far) > 4A, s.5C /s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B

For when your hermit grab lands from a longer range. There is a slightly longer delay from a far hermit grab compared to a regular one, so adjust accordingly.

File:HFTF Oldseph FarHermitGrabCombo.mp4

Stand ON Custom Combo Starters Chain combo into Custom Combo Basic

Standard Routeㅤㅤ s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.5A > s.5B > s.5C xx 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 1 s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.5A > s.5B xx 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 2 s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.2B > s.5C xx 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 3 s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.3B > s.5C xx 214+S (CC)

List of the most common custom combo starting S.ON chains.

Standard Route: Your go-to starter into CC. High damage, surprisingly high meter gain, but slightly tight on the follow-up during the CC itself.

Alt Route 1: Simpler version of the first chain combo with more lenient follow-up timing.

Alt Route 2: Optimal Custom Combo starter for Iggy. Due to his small size, other starters will whiff. Also does the same amount of damage as s.5A > s.5A > s.5B > s.5C

Alt Route 3: Almost identical to the previous starter with the same purpose, but does slightly less damage. Probably easier.

File:HFTF Oldseph StandONCustomComboStarters.mp4

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Intermediate Combos

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Wrap Cancel Combos Wrap Attack Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ d.5A/d.2A/d.5B xx 236+S xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5C xx s.236+C > 4X ... 360 / 214+S
Alternative Route 5C/2C xx 236+S xx s.236+C > 4A … 360 ender / 214+S ender

Standard Route: More optimal version of the previous dashing normal confirms. Can be very unsafe if not hit-confirmed and gets blocked. Get used to this sequence of inputs as this cancel is extremely useful. Note that d.5B will usually result in s.236+C (far). Alt Route: Won't be as prominent as the other wrap cancel confirms, but still useful to know.

File:HFTF Oldseph WrapCancelCombos.mp4

Meterless BnB Starter Highest damage hitconfirm Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ 2A, 6A, S+2C xx s.236+C > 4X … 360 / 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 2A, 2A, / 5A, 5A 5B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)

Optimal meterless BnB from stand off. Great unscaled damage from the command grab and okizeme. Very important! 6A is recommended over 5A due to the extra range it provides. The microwalk allows the combo to work on more characters.

File:HFTF Oldseph MeterlessBnBStarter.mp4

Jab Slide Combo Like S.5A > S.3B but worse Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ 5A > 5A, 3B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 5A > 5A, 3B xx 360+X

Ultimately a worse option than the former in terms of damage, but still a fun option to have at your disposal.

File:HFTF Oldseph JabSlideCombo.mp4

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Stand ON

Optimal Custom Combo Starter Works on Jotaro, Devo, Iggy , Alessi , Old Joseph , Mariah , Hol Horse , Khan , and Hol & Boingo Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.2B, s.5A > s.3B > s.5C xx 214+S (CC)

Most damaging Custom Combo starting chain but will whiff on most characters. Requires more precise timing, otherwise you'll get ghost s.3b after the first s.3b and you'll be punished. Spooky stuff!

File:HFTF Oldseph OptimalCustomComboStarter.mp4

Double s.2C Combo Works exclusively against Stand ON Midler Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ 6A / j.C S+2C, s.2C xx s.236+C > 4X … 360 ender / 214+S ender
Alternative Route s.j.A / s.j.B / s.j.C s.2C, s.2C xx s.236+C > 4X … 360 ender / 214+S ender

High damage but only works against Stand ON Midler.

File:HFTF Oldseph DoubleS2CCombo.mp4

Triple s.2c Combo Works exclusively against Stand ON Devo in the corner. Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ 2A/5A, 5A/2A, 5B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)
Alternative Route 2A, 2A, / 5A, 5A 5B xx 236+A/B / 214+S (CC)

Extremely high damage, but only works against Stand ON Devo while he's in the corner. Very niche but very valuable to have at your disposal when the situation arises.

File:HFTF Oldseph TripleS2CCombo.mp4

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Advanced Combos

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Stand OFF

Dashing Slide Wrap Cancel Combo Meterless low punish option Advanced

Standard Routeㅤㅤ ㅤ ㅤㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ d.2B xx 236+S xx s.236+C > 4A … 360 ender / 214+S enderㅤㅤ ㅤ

• Similar to the other dashing links but tighter and unable to be hitconfirmed.

File:HFTF Oldseph DashingSlideWrapCancelCombo.mp4

Jab Slide Combo 2A still doesn't hit low Advanced

Standard Routeㅤㅤ ㅤ ㅤㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ 2A, 3B xx 236+A/B / 360 ender / 214+S ender

• Tight link hitconfirm.

File:HFTF Oldseph JabSlideCombo.mp4

Jab Hard Knockdown Combo Worthless Advanced

Standard Routeㅤㅤ ㅤ ㅤㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ 5A, 3C

• Leads to a hard knockdown. Rather tight.ㅤㅤ ㅤ

File:HFTF Oldseph JabHardKnockdownCombo.mp4

Jab Heavy Wrap Cancel Combo Placeholder Advanced

Standard Routeㅤㅤ ㅤ ㅤㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ 2A, 5A CrC 5C xx 236+A/B / 236+S xx s.236+C > 4A, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B / 214+S ender ㅤㅤ ㅤ

• 1F crouch cancel link. Totally not recommended for beginners or in general.

File:HFTF Oldseph HeavyWrapCancelCombo.mp4

5B Wrap Cancel Link Wrist Destroyer Advanced

Standard Routeㅤㅤ ㅤ ㅤㅤㅤㅤ ㅤ 5B xx 236S xx s.236C ... s.360+A/B / 214+S ender ㅤㅤ

• EXTREMELY difficult wrap cancel link. Not recommended unless you desire only to assert dominance over your opponent.

File:HFTF Oldseph 5BWrapCancelLink.mp4

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Stand ON

Advanced meterless s.236+A/B/C loop Execution heavy, mediocre reward. Lovely. Advanced

Standard Routeㅤ s.5C/s.2C xx s.236+C > 4A, s.2A, uCrC 2S+5A, S+2C xx s.236+C...

Extremely difficult to do, all for basically no return. Builds ok-ish meter, does passable damage, and is prone to IPS. Only one loop is recommended if you REALLY want to go for it, but by all means show off your execution if you wish.

File:HFTF Oldseph MeterlessS236CLoop.mp4

Custom Combo Routes

Regular CC Routes Intermediate

Standard Routeㅤ ...(CC Confirm) 214+S {2C, 2A > 2A, 5A > 5A > 5B > 5C xx 236+A/B > 4X} S+5C xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5A xx s.360+A/B
Optimal Routeㅤ ...(CC Confirm) 214+S {2C, 2A > 2A, 2A, 5A > 5A > 5B > 5C xx 236+A/B > 5A/B/C x1 > 4X} 5A > S+2C xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B

• Regular Route: Your stock standard Custom Combo route. Does good damage, gives oki, and not that difficult. Make sure to plink the s.5C after CC ends by inputting S at least 1 frame before you input 5C.
• Optimal Route: As optimised as it gets. Does higher damage, builds more meter, but is overall more difficult. Not absolutely vital over the regular route, but is recommended for more experienced players.
• Other Notes: Zaps during s.236+A/B/C do 1 extra damage, but most importantly builds a small amount of bar. Oldseph NEEDS meter to convert hits into big damage, so any optimisation is good optimisation.

File:HFTF Oldseph Regular CCs.mp4

Adjusted CC Routes Intermediate

Crouchers Routeㅤ ...(CC Confirm) 214+S {2C xx 236+C > 4X, 5A > 5A > 5B > 5C xx 236+A/B > 4X} 5A > S+2C xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B
Iggy Routeㅤㅤ ...(CC Confirm) 214+S {2C, 2C, 2C, 2C} S+5C/2C xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B

• Crouchers Route: Used if the opponent is crouching and ducks under s.236+A/B. s.236+C at the end of a Custom Combo makes it impossible (not sure, fact check this) for any followups. Only Dio , Shadow Dio , or any stand ON character won't be affected by this.
• Iggy Route: Due to most of your normals whiffing on Iggy, this is the only route you can do during CC. Substitute a 2C with 2B if the timing is too tight.

File:HFTF Oldseph Adjusted CCs.mp4

Raw CC Routes Intermediate

Anti-air Route 214+S {5C xx 214+A/B/C (mash)}
Hermit Grab Routeㅤㅤ 214+S {236+A/B/C > 4X, 5A > 5A > 5B > 5C xx 236+A/B > 4X} 5A > S+2C xx s.236+C > 4X, s.5A > s.3B xx s.360+A/B

• Anti-air Route: 214+S gives you a burst of iframes that allows s.5C to bulldoze through aerials pretty easily. Cancel into 214+A/B/C and mash for extra damage.
• Hermit Grab Route: Mostly used to catch zoners from far away. Doesn't hit full screen, so make sure to delay a tiny bit if needed.

File:HFTF Oldseph Raw CCs.mp4