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==Frequently Asked Questions==
==Neutral==
In neutral, Boingo's generally most comfortable at a range just outside the tips of '''5B''' and '''2B'''. At this distance, the opponent has to be prepared to deal with your strongest pokes while also considering options such as you running away or throwing out a projectile. Keep in mind that usually the risk/reward for any of these options is stacked heavily against you, so it's advisable to play passively.


===What's the tier list?===
==Zoning==
If you find yourself at a safe distance from the opponent you can initiate Boingo's solid zoning game.
Your primary tools for this are:
*'''236X''' - Gunshot is your safest and most conventional projectile.
**'''A/B''' - Shoots while standing, letting it hit hops as well as careless forward movement on the ground.'''B''' Gunshot fires a faster projectile, but '''A''' Gunshot moves slightly slower, which gives you more time to curve it up or down to cover more space.
**'''C''' - Shoots while crouching. Better at covering the ground, but pretty much useless against any jumps. Hits low, letting it catch people walking backwards. Recovers slightly sooner.
*'''623X''' - Glass isn't a conventional zoning tool, serving more of a setup function. '''B''' Glass can be useful to cover the space directly in front of you in case the opponent makes it past your other projectiles. '''C''' Glass' bullet can hit things like superjumps and double jumps, but the Glass itself covers a useful area and can set up an unblockable in tandem with '''236C''' if the opponent isn't careful.
*'''S''' - S-Bullet can theoretically hit any point on the screen, but in basic zoning your primary options are going to be:
**'''5S'''(416) covers the ground with a delayed projectile. Its delayed nature allows you to act while the opponent has to deal with the bullet. You can use this time to reposition, set up another projectile, anti-air them or to run in for close-range pressure if they hesitate. 
**'''5S'''(476) is similar to the above, but covers a head-height level, meaning it's easy to crouch under but is good at catching jumps.
**'''5S'''(634) is a more immediate threat that covers a waist-level height. If the opponent jumps or rolls over this, they have to be careful about the bullet returning at a ground level which can now cross up.
**'''5S'''(694) is again similar to the one above, but the projectile instead returns at a head level.
While zoning, be prepared to deal with moves with lots of i-frames like Stand ON Star Breaker or Tandem. Be ready to adjust your zoning patterns to account for unique movement options such as airdashes or teleports. Against characters with fast rolls you should assume that 'a safe distance' is a tiny bit further than midscreen.


[[File:Hftf community tier list.png|thumb|Community tier list (2024).]]
==Techchase==
=====2024 Fightcade Tier List by Various Players=====
As of 2024, this is the most up-to-date tier list:<br>
'''SS Tier (Banned):''' Kakyoin, Pet Shop<br>
'''S Tier:''' Vanilla Ice, Polnareff, Jotaro, New Kakyoin, Avdol<br>
'''A Tier:''' DIO, Chaka, Devo, Midler, Rubber Soul, Shadow DIO<br>
'''B Tier:''' Alessi, Iggy, Old Joseph, Hol Horse<br>
'''C Tier:''' Black Polnareff, Khan, Young Joseph<br>
'''D Tier:''' Hoingo, Mariah<br>


====Other Tier Lists====
==S-Bullet==
 
Hoingo’s main appeal as a character is his S-Bullet special: a quick, 10-hit projectile that can have its movement preprogrammed. This gives Hoingo access to powerful zoning, techchase, okizeme while also being useful in pressure.
=====2021 Fightcade Tier List by BiLL=====
====Useful Patterns====
BiLL's tier list from 2021 was the most agreed upon tier list for Fightcade back in 2021.<br>
*'''5S'''(634) - Possibly the most important pattern to have in your muscle memory. It’s okay at normal zoning, but the real fun starts once the pattern loops back and starts to return. Because Boingo can block while the bullet is out, it can serve as a deterrent against grounded approaches, and this pattern is also one of the most consistent ways of causing an S-Bullet crossup in neutral.
'''SS Tier (Banned in tournaments):''' Kakyoin, Pet Shop<br>
*'''5S'''(694) - Very, very similar to the above pattern, but covers the air more than the ground, meaning most characters in Stand OFF can crouch under it to avoid it. Great techchase option thanks again to staying out even when Boingo blocks.
'''S Tier:''' Vanilla Ice, Polnareff, Jotaro, Avdol<br>
*'''5S'''(416) - Reliable way to keep the opponent in blockstun/hitstun. Because of the way the bullet moves, this pattern can be very advantageous if you can get your opponent to block it. In addition, this is a strong zoning tool if given time set it up: the bullet’s forward movement is “delayed”, allowing you to act while the bullet covers the ground. Depending on their hurtbox, using this pattern point-blank to the opponent can be a crossup.
'''A Tier:''' New Kakyoin, DIO, Chaka, Midler, Devo<br>
*'''5S'''(476) - Very similar to 5S(416), but also has additional utility as a way to cover the airspace directly in front of you. If your opponent is jumpy, setting up this pattern might make them reconsider their approach.
'''B Tier:''' Alessi, Shadow DIO, Iggy, Rubber Soul, Hol Horse<br>
*'''5S'''(821) - Sets up a nice, short-lived “wall” in front of you. Can be a faster crossup than 5S(634)/(34), and especially so when you catch someone rolling through it. If you’re sneaky, you can use this to cross up and knockdown a cornered opponent.
'''C Tier:''' Old Joseph, Young Joseph, Khan, Black Polnareff<br>
*'''5S'''(4169)/(4189) - Not as consistently useful as the previous patterns, but can sometimes be used to catch people carelessly airdashing or doublejumping away.
'''D Tier:''' Hoingo, Mariah<br>
*'''5S'''(7631) - Very good at covering the middle section of the screen, can also unexpectedly cross up.
 
====S-Bullet Crossups====
=====Japanese Arcade Tier List by SQ=====
In certain situations, S-Bullet can hit as a crossup, meaning it has to be blocked by holding ''toward'' you, as opposed to ''away'' from you. This catches many opponents off guard, since there are very few moves in the game that behave this way. This can net you some free damage every now and then, especially if you can react and confirm into a Truck or a knockdown.  
[[File:Sq tierlist.jpg|thumb|Full Matchup Table by SQ]]
=====S-Bullet Crossup Conditions=====
'''SS+ (God) Tier:''' Kakyoin, Petshop<br>
There’s two main conditions:
'''S (Top) Tier:''' Vanilla Ice, Polnareff, Jotaro<br>
#The bullet has to hit your opponent “from behind”
'''A (High) Tier:''' Avdol, DIO, New Kakyoin<br>
#They must not be in preblock.
'''B+ (Above Average) Tier:''' Chaka, Midler<br>
The first one is easy enough to understand - if the bullet hits their back, they have to block it as a crossup. The second one is trickier: if they’re in preblock when S-Bullet hits them from behind, they can block it normally. This is especially important when trying to cross up with patterns like '''5S'''(634) - if the bullet hits them on the way forward, it has to go far enough behind them to let them leave preblock, and then turn back and hit them from behind. If it doesn’t travel back far enough to let them leave preblock, they can block it normally. In addition, forcing the opponent into preblock by pressing buttons or using projectiles near them, they can block the S-Bullet crossup normally.
'''B (Average) Tier:''' Iggy, Devo, Shadow DIO<br>
'''C (Low) Tier:''' Alessi, Rubber Soul, Old Joseph<br>
'''D+ (Upper Bottom) Tier:''' Young Joseph, Hol Horse, Khan<br>
'''D (Bottom) Tier:''' Black Polnareff, Mariah, Hoingo<br>
 
 
 
===Who should I play?===
The easy answer is you should play the character you think is the coolest. Playing a simpler character to learn the game won't teach you anything about the character you actually want to play, so if you already have a character in mind, there's no reason to avoid playing them right off the bat.
=====I'm a beginner. Which characters would be good for me?=====
However, it's impossible to deny that some characters are better suited to beginners:
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Jotaro}}''' is a close range brawler with equally strong options in the midrange. Gets his hits by outspeeding or outboxing the opponent's moves before converting said hits into combos with monstrous damage that lead to oppressive 50/50 okizeme.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Shadow Dio}}''' is unique midrange character that rewards reading and conditioning the opponent. Very feast-or-famine, as he has excellent damage, okizeme and movement but starts to struggle as soon as he's put on the back foot due to his weak defensive options.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Chaka}}''' is a Weapon Stand character focused on close range combat. Constantly switches between Stand OFF's excellent mobility and Stand ON's higher variety of options including access to the situational but strong Learning Counter.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Avdol}}''' is a jack-of-all-trades who heavily rewards fighting game fundamentals. His lack of any real weakness allows him to adapt to nearly any situation or matchup. Has some of the best-in-class tools for nearly any situation, although he can struggle to take back momentum once he's at a disadvantage.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Hol Horse}}''' is a zoning oriented character with several useful projectile attacks at his disposal. Although he is quite limited up close, his gameplan relies on frustrating the opponent to make mistakes before punishing them with anything ranging from basic positional advantage to Touch-of-Death combos.
=====I don't care about the simple characters, show me the cool ones!=====
One of the best things about HFTF is just how inventive some of the characters in the cast are <small>(for better or for worse)</small>:
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|New Kakyoin}}''' is a zoner-rushdown hybrid that combines oppressive limb zoning with equally oppressive mixups thanks to his unique Stand ON hoverdash. As if that wasn’t enough, NKak also has access to Nets, which bolster every facet of his gameplay.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Iggy}}''' is a dog. Play someone else.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Mariah}}''' is a setup-based zoner with a unique level-up mechanic. Although she’s far weaker than most of the cast, landing hits with her Outlet S-Moves will upgrade all her special and super moves, leveling the playing field somewhat.
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Alessi}}''' fights in the midrange and gets the bulk of his damage through his unique Child Transformation mechanic - hitting the opponent with certain moves will transform them into a child that can’t block, which allows him to wail on them while they’re defenseless
*'''{{CharacterLabel-HFTF|Devo}}''' is widely considered to be the first real example of a puppet character, and he embodies the archetype perfectly. Effective doll placement allows Devo to attack from two directions, which gives him obscene damage, mixup potential and neutral control.
 
==Troubleshooting==
 
===Why won't my game open?===
 
'''There may be multiple reasons for your game not opening. Some common ones are:'''
 
* You may have the incorrect ROM - Use this guide to install the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIG22y8MV0 (krypton.sh is back up now as of June 2024)
 
* Extracting the ROM files - The ROMs may come in .zip files, but '''do not extract them!''' They must be in seperate jojoba.zip and jojobanr1.zip files.
 
* The ROMs may not be named correctly - you must have .zip files named jojoba with 42 jojoba-simm files inside and jojobanr1 with 8 jojoba-simm files and a jojoba_japan_nocd file inside.
 
* There is many more reasons not listed, but there is a #hftf-questions channel in the JJBAHFTF Discord server where you can ask questions and get answers.
 
===How do I change the game's language to English?===
 
Once the game is running, go to Input > Set dipswitches and change the Region switch to your region of choice, as all non-Japan regions have the game in English. '''Make sure to change it back to Japan for playing online, as not only does the change not matter due to the game being launched from a save state, it could cause a desync when the game is reset if your opponent has a different setting to you!'''
 
===How do I set my controls / Why is my controller not working?===
 
In order for the Fightcade emulator to recognise your controller, it must be plugged in and ready before you launch the game. Once the game is launched, go to Input > Map game inputs or press the F5 key on your keyboard to open the menu where you can configure your inputs. '''Make sure that none of your inputs conflict, especially the Not in use inputs as this can harm your ability to perform certain special moves.'''
 
===How do I unlock the secret characters?===
 
You don't need to unlock the secret characters for playing online or using training mode, but in case you wish to play single player or offline using the characters then follow this guide:
 
* Enter the test menu (The default bind for this is the F2 key)
* Use Player 1 inputs to select menu option 7 and open another menu
* Select option 2 on this second menu
* Input the following: Up, Down, Right, Left, Light Attack, Medium Attack, Heavy Attack, Stand (8 2 6 4 A B C S in numpad notation)
* If done correctly, you will hear DIO's battle cry
* Select the final option in the next two menus until you see "Saving Configuration to EEPROM"
* Leave the test menu by either resetting the game with the F3 key or selecting the final option
* Now, when you enter a local game, the secret characters should be to the left of Jotaro and the right of DIO on the character select screen.
 
===How do I enter training mode?===
 
Fightcade's universal training mode does work well for HFTF, but there is a community-made alternative that works better. You can follow this guide to install and use it: https://youtu.be/elxozUdzyTg
 
===I heard this game has interesting debug characters, where are they?===
 
HFTF has a small selection of unfinished debug characters that were not meant to be played. And so, they were played. While competitively banned, the debug characters still have intrigue around them, most notably Death 13 and Boss Ice. [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/JoJo%27s_Bizarre_Adventure:_Heritage_for_the_Future/Death13 Death 13's wiki page can be found here], and [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/JoJo's_Bizarre_Adventure:_Heritage_for_the_Future/Bice Boss Ice's page can be found here]. Other debug characters, such as N'doul and Gray Fly, are nowhere near as complete or working, meaning they do not have their own wiki pages.


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Latest revision as of 06:19, 11 February 2025

Neutral

In neutral, Boingo's generally most comfortable at a range just outside the tips of 5B and 2B. At this distance, the opponent has to be prepared to deal with your strongest pokes while also considering options such as you running away or throwing out a projectile. Keep in mind that usually the risk/reward for any of these options is stacked heavily against you, so it's advisable to play passively.

Zoning

If you find yourself at a safe distance from the opponent you can initiate Boingo's solid zoning game. Your primary tools for this are:

  • 236X - Gunshot is your safest and most conventional projectile.
    • A/B - Shoots while standing, letting it hit hops as well as careless forward movement on the ground.B Gunshot fires a faster projectile, but A Gunshot moves slightly slower, which gives you more time to curve it up or down to cover more space.
    • C - Shoots while crouching. Better at covering the ground, but pretty much useless against any jumps. Hits low, letting it catch people walking backwards. Recovers slightly sooner.
  • 623X - Glass isn't a conventional zoning tool, serving more of a setup function. B Glass can be useful to cover the space directly in front of you in case the opponent makes it past your other projectiles. C Glass' bullet can hit things like superjumps and double jumps, but the Glass itself covers a useful area and can set up an unblockable in tandem with 236C if the opponent isn't careful.
  • S - S-Bullet can theoretically hit any point on the screen, but in basic zoning your primary options are going to be:
    • 5S(416) covers the ground with a delayed projectile. Its delayed nature allows you to act while the opponent has to deal with the bullet. You can use this time to reposition, set up another projectile, anti-air them or to run in for close-range pressure if they hesitate.
    • 5S(476) is similar to the above, but covers a head-height level, meaning it's easy to crouch under but is good at catching jumps.
    • 5S(634) is a more immediate threat that covers a waist-level height. If the opponent jumps or rolls over this, they have to be careful about the bullet returning at a ground level which can now cross up.
    • 5S(694) is again similar to the one above, but the projectile instead returns at a head level.

While zoning, be prepared to deal with moves with lots of i-frames like Stand ON Star Breaker or Tandem. Be ready to adjust your zoning patterns to account for unique movement options such as airdashes or teleports. Against characters with fast rolls you should assume that 'a safe distance' is a tiny bit further than midscreen.

Techchase

S-Bullet

Hoingo’s main appeal as a character is his S-Bullet special: a quick, 10-hit projectile that can have its movement preprogrammed. This gives Hoingo access to powerful zoning, techchase, okizeme while also being useful in pressure.

Useful Patterns

  • 5S(634) - Possibly the most important pattern to have in your muscle memory. It’s okay at normal zoning, but the real fun starts once the pattern loops back and starts to return. Because Boingo can block while the bullet is out, it can serve as a deterrent against grounded approaches, and this pattern is also one of the most consistent ways of causing an S-Bullet crossup in neutral.
  • 5S(694) - Very, very similar to the above pattern, but covers the air more than the ground, meaning most characters in Stand OFF can crouch under it to avoid it. Great techchase option thanks again to staying out even when Boingo blocks.
  • 5S(416) - Reliable way to keep the opponent in blockstun/hitstun. Because of the way the bullet moves, this pattern can be very advantageous if you can get your opponent to block it. In addition, this is a strong zoning tool if given time set it up: the bullet’s forward movement is “delayed”, allowing you to act while the bullet covers the ground. Depending on their hurtbox, using this pattern point-blank to the opponent can be a crossup.
  • 5S(476) - Very similar to 5S(416), but also has additional utility as a way to cover the airspace directly in front of you. If your opponent is jumpy, setting up this pattern might make them reconsider their approach.
  • 5S(821) - Sets up a nice, short-lived “wall” in front of you. Can be a faster crossup than 5S(634)/(34), and especially so when you catch someone rolling through it. If you’re sneaky, you can use this to cross up and knockdown a cornered opponent.
  • 5S(4169)/(4189) - Not as consistently useful as the previous patterns, but can sometimes be used to catch people carelessly airdashing or doublejumping away.
  • 5S(7631) - Very good at covering the middle section of the screen, can also unexpectedly cross up.

S-Bullet Crossups

In certain situations, S-Bullet can hit as a crossup, meaning it has to be blocked by holding toward you, as opposed to away from you. This catches many opponents off guard, since there are very few moves in the game that behave this way. This can net you some free damage every now and then, especially if you can react and confirm into a Truck or a knockdown.

S-Bullet Crossup Conditions

There’s two main conditions:

  1. The bullet has to hit your opponent “from behind”
  2. They must not be in preblock.

The first one is easy enough to understand - if the bullet hits their back, they have to block it as a crossup. The second one is trickier: if they’re in preblock when S-Bullet hits them from behind, they can block it normally. This is especially important when trying to cross up with patterns like 5S(634) - if the bullet hits them on the way forward, it has to go far enough behind them to let them leave preblock, and then turn back and hit them from behind. If it doesn’t travel back far enough to let them leave preblock, they can block it normally. In addition, forcing the opponent into preblock by pressing buttons or using projectiles near them, they can block the S-Bullet crossup normally.

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Avdol
Devo
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Iggy
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Kakyoin
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New Kakyoin
Polnareff
Vanilla Ice
Weapon
Alessi
Chaka
Old Joseph
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Black Polnareff
Boingo
Hol Horse
Khan
Mariah
Petshop
Rubber Soul
Shadow Dio
Young Joseph