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===Special Moves===
===Special Moves===


'''Cross Cutter (Charge b,f + P)''' - Heidern cross his hands in his front for a Sonic Boom style charge projectile that is very useful to keep your opponent at middle distance, but had a slow startup. A version travels slow and C is faster, only comboable with a standing opponent.


'''Moon Slasher (Charge d,u + P)''' - Heidern motion his arms like a circle to the head of his opponent, A fast startup anti air for jump in attacks, use it for punish and low combo enders.  
* '''Cross Cutter (Charge b,f + P)''' - Heidern cross his hands in his front for a Sonic Boom style charge projectile that is very useful to keep your opponent at middle distance, but had a slow startup. A version travels slow and C is faster, only comboable with a standing opponent.
 
 
* '''Moon Slasher (Charge d,u + P)''' - Heidern motion his arms like a circle to the head of his opponent, A fast startup anti air for jump in attacks, use it for punish and low combo enders.  


There is a glitch related to this move: if you wiff this move, the next Storm Bringer (hcf + P), Killing Bringer (hcb + K) or Final Bringer (qcf qcf + P) will deal more damage (around 50% more). The buff ends if you are hit ou if the Final Bringer/Killing Bringer/Storm Bringer misses or is blocked.
There is a glitch related to this move: if you wiff this move, the next Storm Bringer (hcf + P), Killing Bringer (hcb + K) or Final Bringer (qcf qcf + P) will deal more damage (around 50% more). The buff ends if you are hit ou if the Final Bringer/Killing Bringer/Storm Bringer misses or is blocked.


'''Neck Rolling (Charge d,u + K)''' - A blockable grab that its a good anti air for far distance, use it after a Cross Cutter but beware if opponent block because its unsafe, recommended agaisnt projectile spammers.


'''Storm Bringer (hcb + P)''' - A short range command grab that steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). Its a good combo ender. It is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.
* '''Neck Rolling (Charge d,u + K)''' - A blockable grab that its a good anti air for far distance, use it after a Cross Cutter but beware if opponent block because its unsafe, recommended agaisnt projectile spammers.
 
 
* '''Storm Bringer (hcb + P)''' - A short range command grab that steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). Its a good combo ender. It is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.
 
   
   
'''Killing Bringer (hcb + K)''' - A Counter Move, use B for DMs, Specials and Jump In attacks, and D version for low ones. It steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). When triggered, it is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.
* '''Killing Bringer (hcb + K)''' - A Counter Move, use B for DMs, Specials and Jump In attacks, and D version for low ones. It steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). When triggered, it is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.


===Desperation Moves===
===Desperation Moves===

Revision as of 08:30, 9 December 2018

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Introduction

Heidern is on Dadteam because he's a dad.

Colors

Snka.gif Snkb.gif Snkc.gif Snkd.gif
Heidern98 colorA.png Heidern98 colorB.png Heidern98 colorC.png Heidern98 colorD.png

Gameplay Overview

He is a low tier character focused on zoning and counters, it has a lot of nerfs from 95 but its still a decent characters.

In-depth Analysis

Movelist

Frames Advantage Cancel Block Hitbox Notes
Standing Close
Snka.gif 3/3/11 -3/-5 - HL
Heidern98 stA.png
Identical to st.A
Snkb.gif 5/4/12 -4/-6 C HL
*poot*
Used to links into Storm Bringer (hcb + P).
Snkc.gif 5/1(4)5/13 +2/0 -/C HL/HL
Heidern98 clC1.png
Heidern98 clC2.png
Main combo starter with cr.A
Snkd.gif 5/3/22 -5/-7 C HL
Heidern98 clD.png
Standing Far
Snka.gif 3/3/11 -3/-5 - HL
Heidern98 stA.png
good vs short-hop
Snkb.gif 5/2/16 -6/-8 - HL
Heidern98 stB.png
Heidern's best long range poke (fast, wider hitbox and best recovery).
Snkc.gif 9/4/24 -8/-10 - HL
Heidern98 stC.png
Outclassed by Heidern's st.B.
Snkd.gif 25/6/22 -8/-10 - HL
Heidern98 stD.png
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 25/9/17 KD/-4 S HL
Heidern98 stCD.png
Good move to cd counter. Can be used as a meaty.
Crouching
Snka.gif 3/2/10 -2/-4 C HL
Heidern98 crA.png
combo starter and footsie move.
Snkb.gif 2/5/11 -4/-6 - L
Heidern98 crB.png
footsie move.
Snkc.gif 6/3/17 0/-2 C HL
Heidern98 crC.png
Snkd.gif 6/5/22 KD/-9 C L
Heidern98 crD.png
Cancelable sweep.
Jump
Snka.gif 6/14 -/- - H
Heidern98 jA.png
Snkb.gif 3/5 -/- - H
Heidern98 jB.png
Very good vs air-to-air cause great priority.
Snkc.gif 4/5 -/- - H
Heidern98 jC.png
Cross-up. Heidern's main jump-in.
Snkd.gif 6/5 -/- - H
Heidern98 jD.png
Good jump-in.
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 9/6 KD/- - HL
Heidern98 jCD.png
Great priority. Useful on air-to-air.
Neutral Jump
Snka.gif 3/6 -/- - H
Heidern98 njA.png
Snkb.gif 8/7 -/- - H
Heidern98 njB.png
Snkd.gif 11/5 -/- - H
Heidern98 njD.png
Command Normals
f+Snkb.gif 18/4+3/22 -/- -/- H/H
Heidern98 fB1.png
Heidern98 fB2.png
f+Snkb.gif
(cancel)
18/4+3/22 -/- S/- HL/HL

Normal Throws

  • b or f+C -


  • b or f+D -


  • In air, b / d / f + C / D -

Special Moves

  • Cross Cutter (Charge b,f + P) - Heidern cross his hands in his front for a Sonic Boom style charge projectile that is very useful to keep your opponent at middle distance, but had a slow startup. A version travels slow and C is faster, only comboable with a standing opponent.


  • Moon Slasher (Charge d,u + P) - Heidern motion his arms like a circle to the head of his opponent, A fast startup anti air for jump in attacks, use it for punish and low combo enders.

There is a glitch related to this move: if you wiff this move, the next Storm Bringer (hcf + P), Killing Bringer (hcb + K) or Final Bringer (qcf qcf + P) will deal more damage (around 50% more). The buff ends if you are hit ou if the Final Bringer/Killing Bringer/Storm Bringer misses or is blocked.


  • Neck Rolling (Charge d,u + K) - A blockable grab that its a good anti air for far distance, use it after a Cross Cutter but beware if opponent block because its unsafe, recommended agaisnt projectile spammers.


  • Storm Bringer (hcb + P) - A short range command grab that steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). Its a good combo ender. It is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.


  • Killing Bringer (hcb + K) - A Counter Move, use B for DMs, Specials and Jump In attacks, and D version for low ones. It steals your opponent's health (heals yourself). When triggered, it is a masheable throw. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.

Desperation Moves

  • Final Bringer (qcf x 2 + P) - An upgraded version of his Neck Rolling that steals opponent's health (heals yourself) and is more unsafe on block, use it as a surprise move for combo enders and rolling opponents. It is affected by Moon Slasher glitch bonus.


  • Heidern End (qcb,hcf + K) - Its his main Super combo Ender, more safe than Final Bringer but with a slow animation.

Combos

  • Best jump-ins:
    • j.C (Can crossup)


  • cr.A x 2 > d u + C


  • cr.A, cr.B


  • cr.A / cl.B > Storm Bringer (hcb + P)


  • cr.C > Moon Slasher (d u + C)


  • A Cross Cutter (b f + A), (S)DM qcf qcf + P / Neck Rolling (d u + K)

Far from opponent.


  • Corner: cl.C (2 hits) > (S)DM Final Bringer (qcf qcf + P)


  • cl.C (2 hits) > Shooter Narnagel (f + B)(1 hit) > (S)DM Heidern End (qcb hcf + B)


  • cr.C > (S)DM qcb hcf + B

Out of close range.


  • Far from opponent & conner: A Cross Cutter with A (b f + A), (S)DM qcb hcf + D / (run, [any combo])


When you use the Moon Slasher (d u + P) glitch bonus (see on move description), DM qcf qcf + P still deals less damage than DM qcb hcf + K (just a little less), but SDM qcf qcf + P deals more damage than SDM qcb hcf + K. In fact, with the glitch bonus, cl.C > SDM qcf qcf + P, will deal more damage than cl.C > f + B > SDM qcb hcf + B.


Heidern is the only character that cannot start a combo from a low attack... His only non-knockdown low attack is cr.B and its not cancellable, nor chainable in another cancellable attack and it has frame disadvantage on hit, so you cannot link into his instant throw (hcb + P) :(.


Strategy Corner

  • MAX: cr.C > d u + C

deals ??? than

  • cl.C (2 hits) > f + B (1 hit) > qcb hcf + B

Keep this in mind, when you need to decide whether to trigger MAX or keep meter for a DM.