The King of Fighters '98/Daimon

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Introduction

Goro Daimon was previously known as just "Daimon" before the King of Fighters tournament. The name means "Die, man".

Just before the first KOF tournament, he defeated Goro, prince of Shokan in hand-to-hand mortal combat, taking his namesake as a trophy.

Anyone who could defeat Goro is extremely strong, so as expected, Goro Daimon is a top tier character.

Colors

Snka.gif Snkb.gif Snkc.gif Snkd.gif
Daimon98 colorA.png Daimon98 colorB.png Daimon98 colorC.png Daimon98 colorD.png

Gameplay Overview

Daimon does a ton of damage, has very high priority normals, very effective throw mixups, and is top-tier. Even from an anti-air he can do 30% or so thanks to ground pound OTGs and juggles. He has very good defense (ie takes less damage than average) and is basically a wall of pain. His only disadvantage is that he has a very large sprite. He has combos/tactics that vary from requiring nearly no execution skill to requiring godly execution. He is a decent character for a beginner.


In-depth Analysis

Movelist

Frames Advantage Cancel Block Hitbox Notes
Standing Close
Snka.gif 4/4/5 +3/+1 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 clA.png
Chain: repeatable
Snkb.gif 7/4/9 -1/-3 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 clB.png
Chain: -
Snkc.gif 4/4/13 +3/+1 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 clC.png
Fast, cancelable, great as a meaty. More range than cl.Snkd.gif, so you can use cr.Snka.gif, cl.Snkc.gif as a block string.
Snkd.gif 4/8/14 -2/-4 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 clD.png
Best meaty, and if not too meaty or out in the open, you actually have a good amount of time to hit-check Hcb.png F.png + P.png off of it. Same speed as cl.Snkc.gif, cancelable.
Standing Far
Snka.gif 4/5/6 +1/-1 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 stA.png
Fast, really good anti-air against short hop.

Chain: ender

Snkb.gif 4/5/10 -3/-5 Cancel.png Low.png
Daimon98 stB.png
THE POKE! Fast, low, long range, cancelable. You can do repeated st.Snkb.gifs, but if you think they will hit a button in between, cancel into Hcf.png + Snkc.gif. You can also combo this into Hcb.png F.png + P.png if you're in range, which most people forget about.

Chain: ender

Snkc.gif 9/9/16 -5/-7 Nocancel.png HL
Daimon98 stC.png
Nice and big, stays out a long time. Can stop short hops.
Snkd.gif 5/6/16 -2/-4 Nocancel.png HL
Daimon98 stD.png
Fast, high priority, one of the best anti-air normals in the game. It can also punish things like incompleted Iori rekkas. It will whiff over crouching characters, so watch that.
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 15/4/26 KD/-8 Specialcancel.png HL
Daimon98 stCD.png
Big ass cancelable move. often used to cancel into his Qcf.png + [File:K.png]] counter and bait Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif counters.
Crouching
Snka.gif 3/5/5 +2/0 Cancel.png HL
Daimon98 crA.png
#1 poke if you're too close for standing Snkb.gif. Cancelable.

Chain: ender

Snkb.gif 4/5/6 +1/-1 Nocancel.png Low.png
Daimon98 crB.png
Good poke if you're too close for standing Snkb.gif as well. Links into super easily since it has a long animation/advantage.

Chain: ender

Snkc.gif 5/4/19 -3/-5 Nocancel.png HL
Daimon98 crC.png
Fast, good range. Probably better options though.
Snkd.gif 4/7/12 KD/-1 Cancel.png Low.png
Daimon98 crD.png
A sweep! Can be meatied pretty easily.
Jump
Snka.gif 5/13/- -/- - High.png
Daimon98 jA.png
Pretty good air-to-air.
Snkb.gif 8/17/- -/- - High.png
Daimon98 jB.png
Stays out for a long time, can be used as a crossup if it's very meaty, or your opponent is close to the corner, or in the corner and you are player 2. Good setup for his grab mixups.
Snkc.gif 9/8/- -/- - High.png
Daimon98 jC.png
Crosses up, has a pretty hefty hitbox (what doesn't?).
Snkd.gif 7/7/- -/- - High.png
Daimon98 jD.png
Godly jump move. Good for jumping in, or air-to-air jumping back. Can be used as an instant overhead (short hop only).
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 15/4/- KD/- - HL
Daimon98 jCD.png
Snkc.gifSnkd.gif in the air!
Command Normals
F.png + Snka.gif 22/4/26 KD/-12 Projnull.pngNocancel.png HL
Daimon98 fA1.png
Daimon98 fA2.png
Takra Tsubushi- Not overhead! Active frames and last two start-up frames cancel projectiles.
Df.png + Snkc.gif 3/4+9/16 KD/-11 Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png HL
Daimon98 dfC1.png
Daimon98 dfC2.png
Zujou Barai- Great anti-air. It doesn't beat as much stuff as standing D, but it will trade with most things, enabling you to perform a ground pound combo. Remember if it trades, you will have to re-buffer your Qcb.png + Snkb.gif / Qcf.png + Snkb.gif afterwards so the ground pound will hit OTG.
Throws
F.png/B.png + Snkc.gif KD Throw.png Unbreakable (mashable), forward knockdown, face forward, un-rollable.
F.png/B.png + Snkc.gif KD Throw.png (just outside of normal throw range) - Breakable, forward knockdown, back turned, un-rollable.
F.png/B.png + Snkd.gif KD Throw.png Breakable, reverse knockdown, back turned, rollable.
Special Moves
Hcf.png + Snka.gif 5/7/41 Upperbodyinv.png HL
Daimon98 hcfA.png
Kumo Tsukami Nage (Snka.gif Overhead Slam)

Beats pretty much everything above the top half of the screen, his arm is not hittable. It can be air blocked if the opponent is jumping up or back, though. Can be comboed from Df.png + Snkc.gif on an opponent in the air. Ends in a back turned, un-rollable knockdown, and sets up for a meaty (unblockable) Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif).

Hcf.png + Snkc.gif 12/4/37 Otg.png HL
Daimon98 hcfC.png
Kiri Kabu Gaeshi (Snkc.gif Overhead Slam)

Catches ground pokes, but is punishable by some fast long range things. Good to use as a combo ender if you aren't comfortable using Hcb.png F.png + P.png. Can hit Otg.png. Ends in a back turned, un-rollable knockdown, and sets up for a meaty (unblockable) Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif).

Hcb.png F.png + P.png 0/1/35 Throw.png
Daimon98 hcbfP.png
Tenchi Gaeshi (Ragdoll Toss)

Instant, long range, comboable throw. Not rollable, and sets up for a meaty (unblockable) Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif).

Hcb.png F.png + K.png 0/1/35 Throw.png Daimon-hcbf-k.JPG Uru Nage- Long range throw. Daimon runs, and if get close roll behind opponent and throw him. Crap move, the run it not very fast, and the throw startup (once it is triggered for being close) is very slow, so its very easy to dodge or counter. (Note for the image: working on finding a new one that actually has the throw box. For now, just imagine a -tiny- pink box in front of Daimon, because the range isn't good)
Dp.png + K.png 8/1/23 Throw.png
Daimon98 dpK.png
Chou Ousoto Gari (Trip Slam)

Slower grab with invincibility. You can even use it to go through fireballs. This is his main weapon in attack/throw mixups. Set it up by doing it on your opponents, wakeup, after a sloppy jump-in, or whatever. Not rollable, and sets up for a meaty (unblockable) Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif).

Dp.png + Snka.gif 27/1/44 Otg.png Low.png
Daimon98 dpA.png
Jirai Shin (Ground Pound)/Fake Jirai Shin

Snkc.gif version is a ground pound fake. It is 'blocked' by crouching, but there is no blockstun. You don't even need to hold d/b, just crouch. This can hit Otg.png (on the ground) after an anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif canceled into a non-blockable move (like a throw or utility move). It is also unblockable if done as a meaty attack, but the window is small and the setups vary from character to character. The knockdown can be rolled, but if they miss, you can combo a Hcf.png + Snkc.gif in the corner.

Dp.png + Snkc.gif 35 --
Daimon98 dpC.png
Qcb.png + Snkb.gif 16+17 Startupinv.png --
Daimon98 qcbK.png
Chou Ukemi (Ground roll)
Invincible during the roll, but completely vulnerable at the end of the roll. Usually used for the ground pound combo bug or to gain meter after a knockdown. Can be canceled into to roll through some auto-guard moves or Snkc.gifSnkd.gif counters.
Qcb.png + Snkd.gif 23+18 --
Qcf.png + Kick.gif 2/12/15 Counter.png --
Daimon98 qcfK.png
Nekko Gaeshi (Counter)- Will counter any mid/high hitting normal attack or Snkc.gifSnkd.gif counter. Usually used to cancel into to make moves safer (like standing Snkc.gifSnkd.gif) and to bait Snkc.gifSnkd.gif counters at the same time. Ends in a back turned, un-rollable knockdown, and sets up for a meaty (unblockable) Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif).
DMs
Hcb.png Hcb.png + P.png 0/1/35 Throw.png
Daimon98 hcbx2P.png
Jigoku Gokuraku Otoshi (Super Ragdoll Toss)- Instant good range super throw. Does damage. MAX version does more damage. Unlike other command throws, there is a difference between Snka.gif and Snkc.gif version, the Snka.gif version does slightly more damage (seems like a bug...)
Hcf.png Hcf.png + K.png> Hcf.png + K.png > Dp.png + K.png 14/1/11 Throw.png
Daimon98 hcfx2K1.png
Daimon98 hcfx2K2.png
Arashi Noyama: Nekko Meki (Super Armor Throw)- A slower throw. DM version has autoguard on few frames. SDM version has super armor until recovery (ie you will still take full damage from any hits). The followups switch sides every time, and are timed as the previous part hits. MAX version does more damage. If you don't follow the first or second part, you can do a Hcf.png + Snkc.gif (Otg.png) on the knocked opponent, however it will do less damage than the follow-ups.

Fastest Attacks

Ground

  • 0F: Snkc.gif throw; Snkd.gif throw; Hcb.png F.png + P.png; (S)DM Hcb.png Hcb.png + P.png
  • 1F: -
  • 2F: Qcf.png + K.png
  • 3F: cr.Snka.gif; Df.png + Snkc.gif
  • 4F: cl.Snka.gif; cl.Snkc.gif; cl.Snkd.gif; st.Snka.gif; st.Snkb.gif; cr.Snkb.gif; cr.Snkd.gif
  • 5F: st.Snkd.gif; cr.Snkc.gif; Hcf.png + Snka.gif
  • 6F: -
  • 7F: cl.Snkb.gif
  • 8F: Dp.png + K.png
  • 9F: st.Snkc.gif;
  • 10F: -


Air

  • 0F: -
  • 1F: -
  • 2F: -
  • 3F: -
  • 4F: -
  • 5F: j.Snka.gif
  • 6F: -
  • 7F: j.Snkd.gif
  • 8F: j.Snkb.gif
  • 9F: j.Snkc.gif
  • 10F: -

Combos

As I stated above, his combos range from easy to extremely difficult depending on what you're comboing into.


  • Best jump-ins:
    • j.Snkd.gif
    • j.Snkc.gif (Can crossup.)


  • cl.Snkc.gif / cl.Snkd.gif > Df.png + Snkc.gif (optional) >
    • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif)
    • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png F.png + P.png)
    • Snkc.gif Overhead Slam (Hcf.png + Snkc.gif)


  • cl.Snka.gif, cl.Snka.gif / cr.Snka.gif >
    • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif)
    • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png f + P.png)


  • cl.Snka.gif / cr.Snka.gif >
    • Df.png + Snkc.gif
      • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif)
      • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png F.png + P.png)
      • Snkc.gif Overhead Slam (Hcf.png + Snkc.gif)
    • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif)
    • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png F.png + P.png)
    • Dp.png + K.png (Point blank.)


  • cr.Snkb.gif,
    • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif)
    • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png F.png + P.png)

Link combo.


  • st.Snkb.gif >
    • (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif) (Not too far.)
    • Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png F.png + P.png) (Not too far.)


  • Dp.png + Snka.gif / f + Snka.gif / Anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif / st.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif / j.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif / cr.Snkd.gif,
    • Hcf.png + Snkc.gif (OTG) (If not too far.)

Must not cancel the first move (if it is cancellable), otherwise Hcf.png + Snkc.gif will miss because opponent will not be on the floor yet. Except for F.png + Snka.gif, opponent may do a recovery roll and in this case the Hcf.png + Snkc.gif will miss, however you have time to wait to see if they will do a recovery roll before using the Hcf.png + Snkc.gif ;).


  • Anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif > Snka.gif Overhead Slam (Hcf.png + Snka.gif)

Depending on distance and height you don't need to cancel to combo, you may follow with Hcf.png + Snka.gif after recovering. In fact in some situations you can trade and still do the Hcf.png + Snka.gif after recovering :). Depending on spacing is easier to a st.Snkd.gif instead of Hcf.png + Snka.gif.


  • Counter-hit: Anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif > Qcb.png + Snkb.gif, Df.png + Snkc.gif > Snka.gif Overhead Slam (Hcf.png + Snka.gif)

The Qcb.png + Snkb.gif is only to move close to opponent and may be skipped if you are already close or in the corner. Close to the corner, if first Df.png + Snkc.gif hit high (second part animation) and second Df.png + Snkc.gif hit low (first part animation), it's possible to do a third Df.png + Snkc.gif (second part animation), but the timing is difficult, and it's even hard to follow with Hcf.png + Snka.gif after. If you are close to corner is easy to use Hcf.png + Snkc.gif (OTG), as in the combo above, instead of Hcf.png + Snka.gif, but opponent may do a recovery roll to escape... Depending on spacing is easier to a st.Snkd.gif instead of Hcf.png + Snka.gif.


  • Anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif / st.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif / cr.Snkd.gif >
    • Qcb.png + Snkb.gif / Qcf.png + Snkb.gif (miss) / Dp.png + K.png (miss) / Hcb.png F.png + P.png (miss) / Dp.png + Snkc.gif
      • Snka.gif Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif) (OTG)
        • Hcf.png + Snkc.gif (OTG) (Only if first move was st.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif or cr.Snkd.gif. If not too far.)

Ground Pound bug combo. You may use both (S)DM as the second move, but it is just for show off, as you will be spending meter with no benefits (actually you will end up doing less damage if you use a SDM as MAX mode will end...). The Hcf.png + Snkc.gif will always miss if the first move is an anti-air Df.png + Snkc.gif (don't know why, because Hcf.png + Snkc.gif will hit when the first move is an anti-air st.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif or cr.Snkd.gif...). If the first move is a st.Snkc.gifSnkd.gif you will normally only be close enough to do the Hcf.png + Snkc.gif in the corner. Be aware that if the first move is cr.Snkd.gif, and the second move is Qcb.png + Snkb.gif you may switch sides if you were too close, but this is the the only combination that normally enable the Hcf.png + Snkc.gif out of the corner. On the previous combo instead of ending with Snka.gif Overhead Slam (Hcf.png + Snka.gif), you may follow with this combo/bug (from the second move).


  • Simple buffers:
    • cl.Snka.gif / cl.Snkc.gif > (S)DM Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif
      • Hcb.png + Snka.gif/Snkc.gif > Hcb.png + Snka.gif
    • cr.Snkb.gif, (S)DM Hcb.png Hcb.png + P.png
      • F.png Df.png d Db.png + B.png B.png Hcb.png + P.png


It is possible to perform his Ground Pound (Dp.png + Snka.gif) on the opponent's wakeup with such timing that it cannot be blocked. Here is a list of unblockable Ground Pound setups after various moves for different characters: unblockable Ground Pound setups


The Df.png + Snkc.gif has less range than Hcb.png F.png + P.png (for example, Df.png + Snkc.gif miss after st.Snkb.gif but Hcb.png F.png + P.png can combo), and Df.png + Snkc.gif > Hcf.png + Snkc.gif does just a tiny more damage than Hcb.png F.png + P.png (almost the same out of MAX), so in general its better to just Hcb.png F.png + P.png instead of Df.png + Snkc.gif > Hcf.png + Snkc.gif on combos.


About his (S)DM Super Ragdoll Toss (Hcb.png Hcb.png + Snka.gif): unlike other command throws, there is a difference between Snka.gif and Snkc.gif version, the Snka.gif version does slightly more damage (seems like a bug...)


Strategy Corner

  • MAX: cl.Snkd.gif > Hcb.png F.png + P.png

deals just a tiny less damage (~ 1/3 cl.Snka.gif) than

  • cl.Snkd.gif > DM Hcb.png Hcb.png + P.png

Keep this in mind, when you need to decide whether to trigger MAX or keep meter for a DM.

Matchups

Strategy with Daimon

vs Grappler

vs Zoner

vs Rushdown

Strategy against Daimon

as Grappler

as Zoner

as Rushdown

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