Marvel vs Capcom 2/Jin

Jin

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Introduction

Jin Saotome and his giant robot Blodia are from the giant robot fighting game Cyberbots. In the Marvel vs. Capcom games, Jin fights on foot, utilizing fiery punches and kicks, some disturbing clothes-exploding action, and several supers that call in Blodia from the sidelines.

TO-DO: Add frame data, as well as missing sprites

Gameplay

Jin is a brawler who can use his above-average range buttons & powerful supers to deal big damage fast and chip away at the health of his enemies with his heavy normals and charge moves. His main weaknesses are his slow startup, long recovery, and lack of mobility, which make him lean towards a risk-reward style where he has to make every hit count.

Strengths	Weaknesses
Hits really hard for a guy with no weapon Heavy normals deal chip damage Has a semi-infinite on a portion of the cast	Laggy startup and recovery on most of his kit He can't cancel grounded mediums into heavies which can feel weird No additional movement options in the air make him a bit linear Supers are kinda situational and punishable if they don't connect

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Character Summary

Special Moves

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Saotome Typhoon

• Charge , +

Saotome Dynamite

• Charge , +

Saotome Crush

• +

Hyper Combos

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Blodia Punch

• ++

Blodia Vulcan

• ++

Saotome Cyclone

• ++

Assist Types

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Type α - Expansion Type

• Assist: Saotome Typhoon
• Counter: Saotome Typhoon
• Combination: Saotome Cyclone

Type β - Anti-air Type

• Assist: Saotome Dynamite
• Counter: Saotome Dynamite
• Combination: Blodia Punch

Type γ - Launcher Type

• Assist:
• Counter:
• Combination: Blodia Punch

Moves List

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

Light Punch
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A quick punch ahead of him. While it deals a measly 2 damage (his other three light normals all deal 6 instead), it does reach very slightly farther than his crouching LP.

Medium Punch
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Launcher (normal)	-	-	-	-
His launcher that hits point blank and not much farther. This is the medium you'll usually want to go for when grounded, since you can air combo after.

Heavy Punch
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A sliding flaming punch that knocks the opponent back on hit. You can get pushed back pretty far when cancelling this move into specials or supers, so try to wait a bit before your next input to minimize this.

Light Kick
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A far reaching kick that moves him forwards slightly.

Medium Kick
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A spinning double kick that raises him up around 35ish degrees forwards. This move can't be cancelled into anything once he's airborne, and it puts them into a rollable knockdown.

Heavy Kick
s.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin hops and comes crashing down at a slightly downwards angle with a burning drill kick that sends him fullscreen and knocks down on hit. He can jump clean over some projectiles if timed right.

Crouching Light Punch
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Similar to his standing LP, but the range is slightly shorter. Despite this, it deals 6 damage instead of 2 so try using this move in combos instead of his standing LP

Crouching Medium Punch
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin slams his fist on the ground, making a shockwave around it.

Crouching Heavy Punch
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin strikes a pose with a flaming backhand that launches the opponent away like his standing HP.

Crouching Light Kick
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
The first of his two lows. It has similar range to his standing LK, but he can low profile attacks (example: Doom's Plasma Beam) thanks to being lower to the ground.

Crouching Medium Kick
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin hops forwards with two rising flaming kicks. Only combos if you hit a standing or crouching LP first, as his LKs push his opponent back too far for this move to connect.

Crouching Heavy Kick
cr.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
His second low (of two). Jin slides forwards with his signature fire drill and it reaches about half a screen ahead of him. Has the same damage as but better startup than standing HK since he doesn't need to hop.

Air Normals

Air Light Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A normal air jab with a hitbox in front of him that's active for a little bit.

Air Medium Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A backhanded fire fist that hits in front of his head.

Air Heavy Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A downwards one-handed slam that can cause flying screen. His ideal jump-in to start combos with, since it does more damage than j.HK

Air Light Kick
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A long kick with a slight angle downwards that's also active for a little bit.

Air Medium Kick
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin kicks straight upwards, and despite the animation the hitbox is fine for landing chains into grounded attacks

Air Heavy Kick
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin hits a spin with two fiery kicks, but neither of them cause flying screen. They reach farther than his other aerial options, and the two hits can try to stuff normal anti- or air-to-airs

Command Normals

Air Down Heavy Kick
j.+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	None	-	-	-
Jin stops his aerial momentum entirely and floats down at a 45 degree angle with a three-hit fire drill. It only hits three times, so you have to time this move right if you want to combo off of it - the lower the hits start, the better, because he's a falling, punishable duck once the third hit makes contact with something. It does the same total damage as j.HP, but j.HP better to jump-in with for a combo since it hits once (so it messes with damage scaling less) j.HP is also more reliable (and damaging, for the same reason) air combo ender as well. There are height requirements that have to be met before he can use this move - he can't do it while rising until just before he reaches the apex of a normal jump, and on the way down he can't do it once he's between slightly above crouching height and the floor. Regular air HK will come out instead.

Universal Mechanics

Universal Launcher (Punch)
+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Launcher (normal)	-	-	-	-
Seemingly identical to his standing MP, a point-blank uppercut that launches.

Throw (Punch)
+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin slams his opponent into Blodia's fist, leaving them in the other corner of the screen as he jumps backwards.

Throw (Kick)
+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Mashable	-	-	-	-
Jin pins his opponent to the ground and punches them three times minimum, but he'll punch more if you mash. He jumps back about a character length away at the end.

Air Throw (Punch)
j.+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Effectively his grounded P throw, but airborne. Slams them into Blodia's fist, leaving them in the corner he's facing as he lands in the one behind him.

Variable Attack (raw tag)
+ // +

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin flies in with a pose identical to his j.LK before cracking his knuckles upon landing.

Special Moves

Saotome Typhoon
Charge , +

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin spins forwards as a flame tornado, hitting up to four times. The LP version goes about halfscreen and HP goes about fullscreen length. Because of the distance difference, LP Typhoon is more likely to hit more than once while HP Typhoon is better at getting you in (or out) of situations and intercepting stray offense/assists. Punishable on block, especially if you pressed HP.

Saotome Dynamite
Charge , +

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin's clothes explode off his body and hit everything nearby. Has some recovery, so it's mostly used as a combo ender (or combo into Cyclone in the corner) or as a get-off-me, especially with an assist to cover him.

Saotome Crush
+

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin lunges forwards a bit, trying to grab his opponent's feet. If successful, he'll drag them along all four sides of the screen before dumping them into the corner he's facing and jumping backwards about two character lengths. It's a hitgrab, which means it *can* be blocked.

Hyper Combos

Blodia Punch
++

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin punches forward, then Blodia's fist comes flying out of the side of the screen behind him. This does more damage the closer your opponent is to the corner behind you (where Blodia's punch comes from, as it gets to hit more), and can also put some hurt on stray assists.

Blodia Vulcan
++

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
Jin snaps his fingers, calling in a machine-gun assault from Blodia. If this hits, you'll get a view inside the cockpit as he keeps firing. If it misses or is blocked, Jin will jump back out and punch the ground, vulnerable. Not mashable. "Note that there's a gap halfway into it: if they stop blocking they'll get hit." Be careful when using this super, as he has a good bit of startup before he pilots Blodia.

Saotome Cyclone
++

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
A stationary, short-ranged horizontally but very high-reaching version of the Typhoon special. His most damaging super and one of the strongest in the game.

Saotome Shine
Be actionable at low (~30ish%) health

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
At low health as the last character on his team, Jin gets Super Armor until he dies. While nice on paper, it also means that instead of flinching from hits, he'll instead freeze to a stop during hitstop, making his laggy buttons even *more* laggy while eating any damage in the process. People say it gives him a stat increase, but I've found conflicting information as to what changes & the exact health range Shine begins at.

Variable Assists

Expansion Type
A1 // A2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
LP Saotome Typhoon. Variable Counter is HP Saotome Typhoon. Variable Combination super is Saotome Cyclone. Thanks to it being LP Typhoon, its easier to combo into and out of. If he manages to hit twice or three times, you can use that height the opponent gains to start combos after the assist finishes. Each hit puts the opponent into rollable knockdown if they land, but if your timing's good you can get a guaranteed OTG.

Anti-air Type
A1 // A2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
HP Saotome Dynamite. Variable Counter is also HP Saotome Dynamite. Variable Combination super is Blodia Punch. A very potent get-off-me assist with invincibility to boot. Since the hitboxes of the move are projectiles, you can also use this assist to tank or beat out other projectiles. It's also nice for covering your point character while they do something that's slow to come out so they dont get hit during it.

Launcher Type
A1 // A2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Launcher (normal)	-	-	-	-
Standing MP. Variable Counter is also Standing MP. Variable Combination super is Blodia Punch. It sure does launch. With standing MP as its Variable Counter, it *is* the easiest assist to get meterless (after spending the bar to counter) damage off of since you can do an air combo afterwards.

Taunt

Taunt
Start, {lk} + Start

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	-	-	-	-
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	None	-	-	-
If you mash he turns red and spawns a flaming hitbox on the back of his neck as he screams.

Colors

First row: , , A1. Second row: , , A2.

The Basics

Beginner Overview

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Combos

-Charge b,f + LP XX qcb + PP

-Jump LK > LK \/ d.s.LK > s.HK

-Jump LK > LK \/ d.s.LK > s.HP

-Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LK > s.LK

-Jump LK > LK \/ d.c.LP > c.LK

-Jump LK (charge b) > LP \/ f + LP

-Jump LK (charge b) > LP \/ f + LP XX qcb + PP

-Jump LK (charge b) > LP \/ s.LK XX f + HP XX qcf + KK/qcb + PP

-Jump LK (charge b) > LP \/ s.LK XX f + HP XX qcf + KK (charge d), u + P

-Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LK XX hcb + K

Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LP > s.LP XX qcf + KK

-Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LP > s.LP XX qcf + KK (charge d), u + P

-Jump HK (charge d) \/ c.LP > c.LP XX u + P

-Jump d + HK \/ d.s.LK XX qcf + PP

-Jump HK \/ d.c.LP > c.LP XX qcf + PP

-Jump HK \/ d.s.LK > c.HK XX qcf + PP

-d.c.LP > c.LP XX qcf + PP

-d.s.LP > s.LP XX qcf + KK, c.LK > s.LP /\ sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.HP

-Jump d + HK \/ c.LK > c.HK XX qcf + PP

-Jump d + HK \/ d.s.LP > s.LP \/ sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.LP > sj.LK, f + HP

-Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LK > s.LP /\ sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.HK

-Jump HP \/ d.s.LP > s.LP /\ sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.LP > sj.LK > sj.HP

-Jump HK (charge b) \/ s.LK XX f + HP XX qcf + PP

-Jump d + HK (charge d) \/ c.LK > c.HK XX u + P

-Corner d.c.LP > LP XX qcf + PP (charge d), c.HK XX u + P XX qcf + KK

-Corner s.LP > s.LP XX qcb + PP

-Corner Jump LK > LK \/ d.s.LK XX qcf + PP, d.c.LK > s.HP

-Corner Jump LK (charge d) > LK \/ c.LK > c.HK XX u + P XX qcf + KK

-Corner Jump LK (charge db) > LP \/ c.LP > c.HP XX f + HP XX qcf + KK

-Corner Jump LK > LP \/ d.s.LK XX qcf + PP (charge db), c.HK XX f + LP XX qcf + KK

-Corner Jump LK (charge db) > LP \/ c.LP > c.HP XX f + HP XX qcf + KK (charge d), u + P XX qcf + KK)

-Corner Jump HP \/ d.s.LP > s.LP XX qcf + KK (charge d), u + P XX qcf + KK

-(charge db) c.LP > c.LP XX f + LP XX qcf + KK (charge d), u + P

Strategies

Jin is a slow character, but he has reach, and a decent aerial command normal (j.2HK). This move has three hits, and is one of his most important moves. If it is done too high or at a bad angle, you won't be able to combo off of it on hit and it will leave you vulnerable. With correct spacing, or even a quick super jump 2HK, this can be combo'd into 2LP then either MP (launch) XX Saotome Cyclone (qcf+KK), 2HK xx Blodia Punch (qcf+PP) or Saotome Dynamite (hold down during the j2HK and 2LP, then hit up & a punch button) if you're low on meter.

Jin's 2HK reaches a fair distance and can catch a lot of people off guard. It is cancellable into Dynamite (36 dmg) or Blodia Punch (damage varies, usually high 50s). You can use it simply to move closer while crouching against a lot of characters, but if you do it too frequently, most characters can capitalize easily off it with things like AHVB, Rocket Punch, or Hailstorm.

If you hit his Universal Launcher raw, you can cancel it into Saotome Crash (hcb+K) too cross under them and then cancel *that* into a Cyclone (in the direction you were facing before the input) and have the it hit crossup & combo after with Dynamite

Jin's expansion assist is probably his best one. A player can pick up their opponent from the ground after it, like psylocke's assist, which is great for a Sentinel in melee range (c.LK xx rocket punch xx deploy), or if he's farther away he can HP xx rocket punch xx deploy while Jin is picking them up. Another use is while flying, Sentinel can call the assist, LK, HK, unfly, then launcher or c.LK xx rocket punch xx deploy. Also, this assist can be used to start the ROM infinite, get storm's launcher off, or iron man's infinite (usually, the infinite has to start with aerial LK MK 8HP, then the normal LP MP MK 8HP sequence starts working). Also, this assist is useful in block strings due to it's four hit potential.

If you catch someone's assist in the right spot at the right time with Blodia Punch, the super becomes unblockable for the enemy's point character. If it causes flying screen and his opponent lands in the center of the screen (OR if you do it in the corner & you're close enough to them), you can time a crouching LK to hit OTG and keep the combo going (usually 2LK > HP > imagination, sometimes certain raw tags will connect and you can combo even further).

You can combo his standing or crouching LKs into Crash on hit, and you may want to call an assist as youre inputting the combo just in case your assist can clip your opponent's while Jin handles their point character. Jin also appears to be fully invincible while dragging his victim during Crash, so you could use that to avoid an assist, for example.

You can charge a Dynamite during Cyclone and use it after it's over to hit OTG for bonus damage, and in the corner you can cancel that into a second Cyclone for massive damage.

Jin works well with storm, as her lightning attack xx lightning storm combo goes extremely well into Cyclone (or Blodia Vulcan (qcb+PP) if for some reason the opponent is too far away for cyclone), usually for a kill.

Advanced Strategy

Corner Jinfinite

Semi-Finite Corner - Who it works on

In corner while holding forward - [ st.HP > cr.lp ] * loops (video of the loop)

Jin has a Semi-Finite on a couple characters with loops on part of the cast. Anything below 4 isn't really worth attempting unless your execution is mad good, then you can probably get more than 1 loop. (These were done by hand but I'm 90% sure all -'s can't be looped because their hitbox isn't low enough when they recover).

Easiest on Captain Commando

j.HP > s.lk > s.hp can go into it

Only characters worth using it on - Megaman / Commando / Servebot / Jin / Ryu / Colossus, otherwise you're better off going into an easier j.lp > whatever after s.hp in the corner