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Introduction

The symbiote that would be later known as the Venom Symbiote was created by the dark elder god Knull on Gorr's Homeworld. After Knull was overthrown by his own creations, most of the symbiotes memories would be erased, modified or altered, as Venom itself believed to be part of the 998th generation of a lineage of symbiotes born on the planet Klyntar.

Being discovered by Spider-Man during the Secret Wars, it bonded to him and assimilated his powers into its own genome. Unfortunately, it was later discarded by Spider-Man when he learned it was alive and sentient, as he was disgusted by the idea of permanently bonding to it. Then Eddie Brock, a journalist, who had his career ruined unwittingly due to the actions of Spider-Man, came to Our Lady of Saints Church to commit suicide, the symbiote sensed his anger and bonded to him, forming the villain Venom. Over time the symbiote's bloodlust and hunger worsened until it became too much for Eddie to stomach, leading to them parting ways.

Venom is a very simple and straightforward character. his easy execution and general purpose special moves make him a great choice for beginners and. his Venom fang is a great move that can catch opponents off guard and allow for crossup mixups. Your normal buttons force your opponent to respect your footsies range since they hit fast and strong. he can also travel through the air really fast with his web swing air dash, and combine that with venom fang and he can dominate through the air. he is great for taking out juggernauts, sentinels, thanoses(?) and pretty much any large character because his moves have a large hit box.

On the other hand, Venom has few decent defensive options but ultimately struggles. Venom's gameplan is quite predictable if you don't spice it up with assists and he shines mostly when fighting people who don't know the match-up yet

Gameplay

Venom is a simple and powerful character to help with learning the fundamentals of MvC2. A character that is great for beginners and can remain viable in higher level play but might rely too much on knowledge checks.

Strengths

Weaknesses

Easy playstyle: simple to grasp and understand gameplan without being flowchart Long snapback: one of the biggest snap backs in the entire game Big Specials: Special moves that take up big portions of the screen and last for an extremely long time compared to other characters. Fullscreen control: Good range and monstrous damage potential from any range. Provides an outstanding reward for dealing with an opponent's offense. Air dash: You can dash while in the air allowing for more offensive options

Predictable: Some opponents will make your gameplan very punishing and very difficult to pull off if they pick the right characters and read your next moves. Big Body: Being a somewhat larger target means you have to deal with more pressure and mixups than the average character. Slow Recovery: most of Venom's good moves are punishable with good predictions or even just good reactions. Defensive Options: While he has great options, sometimes they aren't enough to deal with a properly layered offense. Especially if it's fast.

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Character Summary

Special Moves

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Venom Fang

• +

Venom Rush

• +

Web throw

• +

Super Moves

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Venom Web

• +

Death bite

• +

Assist Moves

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Type α - Expansion Type

• Assist: Venom fang
• Counter: Venom fang
• Combination: Death bite

Type β - Variety Type

• Assist: Venom rush
• Counter: Venom rush
• Combination: Death bite

Type γ - Launcher Type

• Assist: 5
• Counter: 5
• Combination: Death bite

Colors

First row: LP, HP, A1. Second row: LK, HK, A2.

Moves List

Normal Moves

Light Punch
5

yes, your light punch is a poke

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	3	20	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
a quick short attack. great range for a jab. Good priority and a nice lead in for low jump pressure to keep them from air throwing you.

Medium Punch
5

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	10	6	29	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super, SJ cancellable frames 17~33	-	-	-
Our primary launcher.<be>Has a slightly shorter range than 5 but deals decent damage

Heavy Punch
5

Chomp

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	8	8	41	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
The symbiote forms a giant fanged mouth, which thrusts forward and does a lunging bite. Venom's longest and most damaging normal, although quite laggy. in the corner, 5 > Venom fang deals good damage can be used as a makeshift anti-air if they jump too early Use it to punish mistakes from mid-range and to counter dash-ins

Light Kick
5

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	1	21	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
generic low kick hitbox is super short so it's replaced by 5 in most bnbs

Medium Kick
5

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	24	22	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
Venom attacks low with snakes the easiest of the few ways to combo into Death bite Hits twice with great priority

Heavy Kick
5

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	14	3	40	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Launcher	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
a pretty powerful, wide, stationary version of Venom rush. Decent hitbox and nice damage but can't combo out of it

Crouching Light Punch
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	3	11	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
OTG	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
5 but low, this is also used for starting combos. It's one of a few low LP's that hits low.

Crouching Medium Punch
2

Cactus uppercut

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	13	6	32	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super, SJ Cancellable 22~38	-	-	-
Venom uses his tongue to hit his opponent. It has decent range and comboes into most special moves or a Death Bite.

Crouching Heavy Punch
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	11	6	39	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
5 but low

Crouching Light Kick
2

footsies

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	5	14	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
very fast, but that's about it

Crouching Medium Punch
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	10	3	35	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super SJ cancellable 22・42	-	-	-
Venom attacks with spikes, short range but alright damage

Crouching Heavy Kick
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	14	5	44	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
is a sweep, saved by it's monstrous hitbox

Air Light Punch
j.

God of Creativty

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	14	8	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
a downward punch, good angle

Air Medium Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	5	24	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super	-	-	-
Venom licks upwards, mostly used for air combos

Jumping Heavy Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	12	5	32	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Flying screen	Special, Super	-	-	-
Jumping twisted tentacle arm. Good priority.

Air Light Kick
j.

2LK but jumping

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	12	8	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
Jumping neck tap. Good priority. One of his best jump-ins.

Air Medium Kick
j.

literally just 2HK

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	11	5	16	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super	-	-	-
Jumping bodyspike trap. Great priority, great as a followup from a jump in.

Air Heavy Kick
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	12	6	18	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Flying Screen	Special, Super	-	-	-
Jumping attack similar to VEnom rushr rotating for longer. 2 hits max. Good as keep away. Good as combo ender or beginner. Great priority. opprssive hitbox depending on the match-up

Special Moves

Name

Command

Damage

Special Properties (glossary)

Venom Fang

+

Venom performs an arching leap forward and bites, hitting multiple times.
This move has a quick start up time making it easy to combo with, plus the angle it travels at is handy for juggling.
travels further and hits more times which usually means it does more damage than the version.
it's a good anti-air attack, anti-dash-in attack, air combo finisher and is also good for aerial confrontations. Just make sure that you don't land behind the opponent.

Venom rush

+

The symbiote travels along the ground and when it reaches a certain point, it forms a bunch of fanged mouths that thrust upward and bite the opponent.
Because of the start up time, your Venom Rush doesn't have much use in combos, but it can be an unexpected surprise to throw out there when you're far away and your enemy is chucking beams at you, but don't throw this out at random. If it's blocked or it misses, you will get punished severely.
hits from fullscreen's distance, {lk} hits from about sweep range.

Web throw

+

Shoots a web at your opponent, and if it hits Venom will slam them into the ground multiple times.
Venom won't follow up after the web connects if you're too far away though.
{lp} travels straight across the screen. {hp} travels diagonally up-forward, which is angled to hit jumping characters.
Slow startup, but great damage if it connects. You can rotate the pad/stick and press buttons for more damage.
mostly used for an unexpected counter.

Super Moves

Name

Command

Damage

Special Properties (glossary)

Venom Headcrush

+

58 / 63 / 87

Maximum of 8 hits

Assist Moves

Name

Damage

Cross-Over Combination

Alpha Counter

Notes

Earthquake Punch

Venom Headcrush

Earthquake Punch

Very easy to use when extending an opening hit into a full combo. Does a decent amount of chip. Not very much range or damage potential but provides a lot of pressure once you're in.

Venom Punch

Venom Headcrush

Venom Punch

Very popular assist because of the damage potential. Sends the point character flying, which typically ends your combo unless you're in the corner. The super armor can help blow through your opponent's offense.

Body Press

Venom Headcrush

Body Press

One of the only assists in the entire game that has to be blocked high. Can be used as an anti-air or to create an unblockable mixup. Very long recovery so Venom needs a little extra protection compared to his other assists. Has no super armor once Venom is in the air.

The Basics

Beginner Overview

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Combos

Note: Venom is only allowed a 2 button chain unless he is super jumping so his combos tend to follow a very simple path. Adding to that limitation, a solo Venom can only combo a ground chain into the following buttons:

• Standing
• Standing
• Crouching

Your bread and butter. Easy to perform under pressure and, even unmashed, will seriously damage any character when Venom has the Power-Up glitch. If you have the meter, unless you have a specific plan for it, it's highly recommend you just pull the trigger any time you land a hit.

 c.LK > s.HP xx Headcrush

A simple, meterless combo. Low damage but can be useful for dealing with assists that might be preventing some other combos.

[Close] c.LK > s.LP xx HP Earthquake

Your strongest, inescapable, meterless combo. Will send the opponent flying which will cause a flying screen dash for you, which can be potentially fatal for Venom depending on the matchup.

[Close] c.LK > s.HP xx LP Venom Punch

A simple way to scramble for damage off of an accidental c.HP.

 j.HP \/ c.HP xx HK Body Press

Rollable. The strongest, meterless option off of a sweep. Either strength Venom Punch will connect but LP is safer when the opponent rolls.

 c.LK > c.LK xx LP Venom Punch

F + HP is a pretty lackluster move in this game but it might be useful as a meaty in the corner. Also note that this is a superjump cancel, not a jump cancel. Instead of holding up to leave the ground you have to return to neutral, then down, then up.

 (Corner) [Close] F + HP /\ sj.LK > sj.MP xx LK Body Press

The dash-in is crucial. A high damage, unrollable route for midscreen Venom Punch.

 j.HP \/ d.s.HP xx LP Venom Punch

Meterless style combo for the corner. Builds a ton of meter compared to your other combos. Flying screen is set so you really can't get any more than this. You have the option of leaving the final hit off which forces your opponent to roll into the corner, allowing you to continue your pressure.

 (Corner) j.HP \/ c.HP /\ sj.LK > sj.MP > sj.HP > sj.HK \/ c.LK > F + HP

Rollable. The most damaging, midscreen combo Venom has access to.

 j.HP \/ c.LK > c.LK xx HP Venom Punch xx Headcrush

This combo allows for Headcrush to be mashed a little easier than others due to the spacing. Useful for when you find yourself without Power-Up glitch and need a little help getting the full 8 hits on Headcrush.

 (Corner) j.HP \/ d.s.LK > s.HP xx LP Venom Punch, c.LP xx Headcrush

Rollable. The only possible damage extension after a midscreen ground throw. Works with either throw. Doesn't work on heavy characters.

Throw, HP Venom Punch xx Headcrush

Venom's answer for people putting him in the corner. Venom has surprisingly amazing juggle potential after a throw into the corner which makes this combo pretty forgiving to execute. Works with either throw. Doesn't work on heavy characters.

Throw /\ j.LK > j.HK \/ Headcrush

Strategies

Venom offers the most utility as an assist. With no real options for dealing with runaway a lot of matchups are going to feel like a struggle. Venom is slow, easy to cross-up and combo, uses meter far better than he builds it, everything he does is relatively unsafe and expensive to protect, and he has no super armor in the air. However, Venom has one thing that changes him from an annoyance into a problem, the Power-Up glitch.

Your first goal with Venom is to activate his Power-Up glitch as soon as possible. The fewer bars of meter the opponent has when you change to another character, the harder it will be for them to punish you, especially if you change to a character with high vitality. Once glitched, your assists offers game-changing amounts of damage and your Headcrush threatens to one-shot many popular assists.

Your second goal with Venom is to land his assist as many times as possible. Venom has a lot of health but he's not invincible, his large size means it's going to be harder for him to avoid damage so be ready to protect him when your opponent retaliates. A glitched Venom Punch can kill any assist in 3-5 hits instead of 5-7 hits which makes counter-calling your opponent's assists a powerful, meterless threat.

Your third goal with Venom is to land his Headcrush as many times as possible. Headcrush is pretty easy to combo into from most of Venom's normal buttons, but landing that initial hit can sometimes be difficult. The best buttons to approach an opponent with are probably going to be jumping and jumping . A throw when near the corner often turns into a guaranteed Headcrush and a potential touch of death with the right assist. The THC Headcrush is unmashable but has a faster startup than a normal Headcrush allowing for monstrous whiff punishes. A DHC from a better point character into Headcrush can turn a stray hit into a potentially favorable match.

Cyttorak Power-Up Glitch

The Power-Up glitch increases the damage for Venom on every attack, not just the very next one. The glitch only needs to be performed once per match unless you accidentally deactivate it later. To activate the glitch Venom needs to Power-Up, then change to a different character without finishing an attack or otherwise canceling the effect. If Venom isn't flashing when he leaves the screen then the glitch probably wasn't executed correctly.

When Venom is brought back into play and uses Power-Up again the glitch is deactivated.

When attempting to setup the glitch, the following moves can be whiffed without removing any of the Power-Up effect:

• +
• +
• +

Venom will remain flashing if any of these moves hit, but he will not have the increased damage. Also, performing an additional Power-Up in this state will not give the increased damage back. In this exact situation, the only way to be sure you're gaining the damage increase is to remove the original flashing effect by using any other attacks, then performing another Power-Up.

THC Headcrush

The normal Headcrush is one of Venom's most consistent and punishing threats. The THC Headcrush, on the other hand, has some interesting differences that bring some much needed depth to the table. THC Headcrush is unmashable which might mean less damage up-front, but is Venom's fastest attack by a huge margin. This extra speed allows it to punish basically everything your grounded opponent might consider safe and has the added benefit of being unblockable in certain situations.

Unblockable THC

Having Venom on your team grants you access to the THC Headcrush, even when he's an assist, abuse it if you have the meter and your team allows for it. With Venom as an assist you can THC and his Headcrush has a chance to be unblockable as long as your opponent isn't already in blockstun and you are relatively close to them. This works because THC Headcrush will reach the opponent before the super freeze signals that the opponent can block, but frame skip is what ultimately decides if the Headcrush will connect.