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Introduction

Cain Marko is a regular human who was empowered by a gem belonging to the deity Cyttorak, becoming a literal human Venom. He possesses superhuman strength and durability, and is virtually immune to most physical attacks; his helmet also protects him from mental attacks. Although not a mutant, Venom has been featured as a prominent member of the Brotherhood of Mutants. He is also the stepbrother of Professor X.

Venom is the great equalizer. With the help of the Power-Up Glitch even a solo Venom can touch of death most of the cast for next to no execution. A simple Headcrush is usually all it takes to force your opponent to adjust their behavior and shift the momentum of the match. Your normal buttons occupy very popular sections of the screen and the hits add up fast, even more if you're already Glitched. Any assist that you chose will be impossible to ignore, offering many characters the damage they need to compete.

On the other hand, Venom has few decent defensive options but ultimately struggles. Venom's Headcrush is great for blowing through projectiles and block strings, Super Armor provides some much needed breathing room when dealing with your opponent's offense, and his Defense is among the highest in the game. However, Venom's large body makes him an easy target for being rushed down, his moves are very slow and punishable, he can't really deal with pressure from above, and he has no strong options for dealing with runaway. These weaknesses really add up against Venom, making him much easier to utilize as an assist.

Gameplay

Venom is a simple and powerful character to help with learning the fundamentals of defense in MvC2; A character that is great for beginners and can remain viable in higher level play but might be seen as a gimmick.

Strengths

Weaknesses

Explosive Damage: A single touch can lead to death under the right circumstances. Big Buttons: Normal buttons that take up huge portions of the screen and last for an extremely long time compared to other characters. Super Armor: Lets Venom absorb a number of non-heavy hits or projectile before entering hitstun, even when he's an assist. Simple Execution: It doesn't get easier than having a raw super be your optimal punish. Heavy Weight: Venom falls faster than average so he's harder for some characters to combo. Ground Throws: Good range and monstrous damage potential in the corner. Provides an outstanding reward for dealing with an opponent's offense. High Defense: Gives Venom more chances to trade and helps his assists deal with being punished. Whiff Punishes: Headcrush and THC Headcrush allow for some punishes that even the best characters might not have access to. Power-Up Glitch: Turns Venom and his damage potential into a serious threat which demands respect from the entire cast.

Big Body: Being a larger target means you have to deal with more pressure and mixups than the average character. You'll be stuck on your back unless you can successfully pushblock or call an assist. Makes Venom easier to combo for some characters. Meter Hungry: Headcrush is your best source of damage but Venom cannot easily build meter for himself. Low Mobility: Venom must rely on his assists to help deal with runaway. Body Press might work in a pinch but tends to be unsafe. Slow Recovery: Basically every single move Venom can perform is punishable. All of them are punishable on whiff, most of them on block, even some of them on hit. Defensive Options: While Headcrush and Super Armor are great options, sometimes they aren't enough to deal with a properly layered offense. Especially from above. Power-Up Glitch: Predictable. Some opponents will make changing characters very punishing and very difficult.

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Character Summary

Special Moves

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Venom Punch

• +

Venom Body Press

• +

Earthquake Punch

• +

Cyttorak Power-Up

• +

Super Moves

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Venom Headcrush (Dash super)

• + +

Assist Moves

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Type α - Ground Type

• Assist: Earthquake Punch
• Counter: Earthquake Punch
• Combination: Venom Headcrush

Type β - Dash Type

• Assist: Venom Punch
• Counter: Venom Punch
• Combination: Venom Headcrush

Type γ - Variety Type

• Assist: Body Press
• Counter: Body Press
• Combination: Venom Headcrush

Colors

First row: LP, HP, A1. Second row: LK, HK, A2.

Gameplay

File:MVC2Venom.gif

Pros	Cons
Explosive Damage: A single touch can lead to death under the right circumstances. Big Buttons: Normal buttons that take up huge portions of the screen and last for an extremely long time compared to other characters. Super Armor: Lets Venom absorb a number of non-heavy hits or projectile before entering hitstun, even when he's an assist. Simple Execution: It doesn't get easier than having a raw super be your optimal punish. Heavy Weight: Venom falls faster than average so he's harder for some characters to combo. Ground Throws: Good range and monstrous damage potential in the corner. Provides an outstanding reward for dealing with an opponent's offense. High Defense: Gives Venom more chances to trade and helps his assists deal with being punished. Whiff Punishes: Headcrush and THC Headcrush allow for some punishes that even the best characters might not have access to. Power-Up Glitch: Turns Venom and his damage potential into a serious threat which demands respect from the entire cast.	Big Body: Being a larger target means you have to deal with more pressure and mixups than the average character. You'll be stuck on your back unless you can successfully pushblock or call an assist. Makes Venom easier to combo for some characters. Meter Hungry: Headcrush is your best source of damage but Venom cannot easily build meter for himself. Low Mobility: Venom must rely on his assists to help deal with runaway. Body Press might work in a pinch but tends to be unsafe. Slow Recovery: Basically every single move Venom can perform is punishable. All of them are punishable on whiff, most of them on block, even some of them on hit. Defensive Options: While Headcrush and Super Armor are great options, sometimes they aren't enough to deal with a properly layered offense. Especially from above. Power-Up Glitch: Predictable. Some opponents will make changing characters very punishing and very difficult.

Moves List

Normal Moves

Light Punch
5

yes, your light punch is a poke

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	3	20	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
a quick short attack. Decent damage for a jab. Good priority and a nice lead in for low jump pressure to keep them from air throwing you. Probably one of our my most used attacks. Usually the scariest because after this connects, the follow up is 5 or Headcrush. is our most preferred poke / pressure tool

Medium Punch
5

File:MVC2 Venom 5MP 3.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	10	6	29	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super, SJ cancellable frames 17~33	-	-	-
This is the second jab hit.<be>Has a slightly shorter range but and doesn't do much damage (read: would be considered plenty of damage for any other character).

Heavy Punch
5

File:MVC2 Venom 5HP 3.png

Hitting this at least 3 times a match is mandatory

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	8	8	41	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
will stun anything known by man. 5 > Headcrush Deals insane damage even without the glitch can be used as a makeshift anti-air

Forward heavy punch
6

File:MVC2 Venom 6HP.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	20	8	28	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
Venom's longest normal has a very long startup so it is mostly used to extend corner combos

Light Kick
5

Ken's kick, but not as good

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	1	21	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
generic low kick hitbox is way longer than it appears visually but it's still shorter than 5

Medium Kick
5

File:MVC2 Venom 5MK 2.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	24	22	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
The stomp! I don't recommend this move unless you've already won your opponent.

Heavy Kick
5

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	14	3	40	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Launcher	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
a pretty powerful, high, slow kick. Decent range and nice damage and launcher that you can't follow up (except in a corner?).

Crouching Light Punch
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	3	11	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
OTG	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
5 but low

Crouching Medium Punch
2

Cactus uppercut

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	13	6	32	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super, SJ Cancellable 22~38	-	-	-
generic hp filler

Crouching Heavy Punch
2

File:MVC2 Venom 2HP 2.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	11	6	39	HL
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
Our primary launcher. Attempting to launch someone is rarely a good idea. You can either jump up after this and combo away (ending with this same punch for very nice damage) or body splash (the version does almost as much damage as his arial rave).

Crouching Light Kick
2

footsies

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	5	14	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, SJ, Super	-	-	-
very fast, but that's about it

Crouching Medium Punch
2

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	10	3	35	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super SJ cancellable 22・42	-	-	-
is a sweep, generally useless since Venom usually knocks away opponents in combos and doesn't benefit from being super close to his opponents

Crouching Heavy Kick
2

File:MVC2 Venom 2HK 2.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	14	5	44	L
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
-	-	-	-	-
slow and not useful. On a successful hit, this move will stun any opponent it does not launch.

Air Light Punch
j.

God of Creativty

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	14	8	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
5 but jumping

Air Medium Punch
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	9	5	24	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super	-	-	-
5 but jumping

Jumping Heavy Punch
j.

File:MVC2 Venom J.HP 2.png

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	12	5	32	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Flying screen	Special, Super	-	-	-
a giant sswipe knocks down aerial opponents and deals amazing damage

Air Light Kick
j.

2LK but jumping

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	6	12	8	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Chain, Special, Super	-	-	-
has an alright downward angle

Air Medium Kick
j.

literally just 2HK

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	11	5	16	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
None	Special, Super	-	-	-
filler air combo move

Air Heavy Kick
j.

Damage	Startup	Active	Recovery	Guard
-	12	6	18	H
Special Property	Cancel	Adv. Hit	Adv. Guard	Adv. Pushblock
Flying Screen	Special, Super	-	-	-
5 but useful deals great damage and can extend an air combo if they are against the corner

Special Moves

Name

Command

Damage

Special Properties (glossary)

Venom Punch

+

20 / 28 -- 30 / 42

Probably Venom's most important special move, due to its insane range, damage and super armor. great to end ground combos. This can be done with either , which is faster but stationary or , which has a dash and deals more damage but is much slower. redefines Venom's character and movement the same way

Venom Body Press

+

19 / 25 -- 23 / 29 -- 29 / 38

Jugg jumps in the air and does a body press
quite situational but deals alright damage and knocks down
has very poor recovery and can't be comboed into easily

Earthquake Punch

+

18 / 22 -- 27 / 33

Slams the ground and sends shockwaves forward
great for controlling space and punishing reckless dashes, especially as an assist
but you most likely did this while trying to attack low after a dash

Cyttorak Power-Up

+

N/A

Increases damage for Venom's next attack. The effect is normally canceled whether the attack connects or not, but this effect is permanent when using Power-up glitch
this makes Venom one of the strongest characters in the game.
how the glitch works is explained below

First set of damage is for normal. Second set of damage is for Power-Up. Third set of damage is with Power-Up glitch applied.

Super Moves

Name

Command

Damage

Special Properties (glossary)

Venom Headcrush

+

58 / 63 / 87

Maximum of 8 hits

Assist Moves

Name

Damage

Cross-Over Combination

Alpha Counter

Notes

Earthquake Punch

Venom Headcrush

Earthquake Punch

Very easy to use when extending an opening hit into a full combo. Does a decent amount of chip. Not very much range or damage potential but provides a lot of pressure once you're in.

Venom Punch

Venom Headcrush

Venom Punch

Very popular assist because of the damage potential. Sends the point character flying, which typically ends your combo unless you're in the corner. The super armor can help blow through your opponent's offense.

Body Press

Venom Headcrush

Body Press

One of the only assists in the entire game that has to be blocked high. Can be used as an anti-air or to create an unblockable mixup. Very long recovery so Venom needs a little extra protection compared to his other assists. Has no super armor once Venom is in the air.

The Basics

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Combos

Note: Venom is only allowed a 2 button chain unless he is super jumping so his combos tend to follow a very simple path. Adding to that limitation, a solo Venom can only combo a ground chain into the following buttons:

• Standing
• Standing
• Crouching

Your bread and butter. Easy to perform under pressure and, even unmashed, will seriously damage any character when Venom has the Power-Up glitch. If you have the meter, unless you have a specific plan for it, it's highly recommend you just pull the trigger any time you land a hit.

 c.LK > s.HP xx Headcrush

A simple, meterless combo. Low damage but can be useful for dealing with assists that might be preventing some other combos.

[Close] c.LK > s.LP xx HP Earthquake

Your strongest, inescapable, meterless combo. Will send the opponent flying which will cause a flying screen dash for you, which can be potentially fatal for Venom depending on the matchup.

[Close] c.LK > s.HP xx LP Venom Punch

A simple way to scramble for damage off of an accidental c.HP.

 j.HP \/ c.HP xx HK Body Press

Rollable. The strongest, meterless option off of a sweep. Either strength Venom Punch will connect but LP is safer when the opponent rolls.

 c.LK > c.LK xx LP Venom Punch

F + HP is a pretty lackluster move in this game but it might be useful as a meaty in the corner. Also note that this is a superjump cancel, not a jump cancel. Instead of holding up to leave the ground you have to return to neutral, then down, then up.

 (Corner) [Close] F + HP /\ sj.LK > sj.MP xx LK Body Press

The dash-in is crucial. A high damage, unrollable route for midscreen Venom Punch.

 j.HP \/ d.s.HP xx LP Venom Punch

Meterless style combo for the corner. Builds a ton of meter compared to your other combos. Flying screen is set so you really can't get any more than this. You have the option of leaving the final hit off which forces your opponent to roll into the corner, allowing you to continue your pressure.

 (Corner) j.HP \/ c.HP /\ sj.LK > sj.MP > sj.HP > sj.HK \/ c.LK > F + HP

Rollable. The most damaging, midscreen combo Venom has access to.

 j.HP \/ c.LK > c.LK xx HP Venom Punch xx Headcrush

This combo allows for Headcrush to be mashed a little easier than others due to the spacing. Useful for when you find yourself without Power-Up glitch and need a little help getting the full 8 hits on Headcrush.

 (Corner) j.HP \/ d.s.LK > s.HP xx LP Venom Punch, c.LP xx Headcrush

Rollable. The only possible damage extension after a midscreen ground throw. Works with either throw. Doesn't work on heavy characters.

Throw, HP Venom Punch xx Headcrush

Venom's answer for people putting him in the corner. Venom has surprisingly amazing juggle potential after a throw into the corner which makes this combo pretty forgiving to execute. Works with either throw. Doesn't work on heavy characters.

Throw /\ j.LK > j.HK \/ Headcrush

Strategies

Venom offers the most utility as an assist. With no real options for dealing with runaway a lot of matchups are going to feel like a struggle. Venom is slow, easy to cross-up and combo, uses meter far better than he builds it, everything he does is relatively unsafe and expensive to protect, and he has no super armor in the air. However, Venom has one thing that changes him from an annoyance into a problem, the Power-Up glitch.

Your first goal with Venom is to activate his Power-Up glitch as soon as possible. The fewer bars of meter the opponent has when you change to another character, the harder it will be for them to punish you, especially if you change to a character with high vitality. Once glitched, your assists offers game-changing amounts of damage and your Headcrush threatens to one-shot many popular assists.

Your second goal with Venom is to land his assist as many times as possible. Venom has a lot of health but he's not invincible, his large size means it's going to be harder for him to avoid damage so be ready to protect him when your opponent retaliates. A glitched Venom Punch can kill any assist in 3-5 hits instead of 5-7 hits which makes counter-calling your opponent's assists a powerful, meterless threat.

Your third goal with Venom is to land his Headcrush as many times as possible. Headcrush is pretty easy to combo into from most of Venom's normal buttons, but landing that initial hit can sometimes be difficult. The best buttons to approach an opponent with are probably going to be jumping and jumping . A throw when near the corner often turns into a guaranteed Headcrush and a potential touch of death with the right assist. The THC Headcrush is unmashable but has a faster startup than a normal Headcrush allowing for monstrous whiff punishes. A DHC from a better point character into Headcrush can turn a stray hit into a potentially favorable match.

Cyttorak Power-Up Glitch

The Power-Up glitch increases the damage for Venom on every attack, not just the very next one. The glitch only needs to be performed once per match unless you accidentally deactivate it later. To activate the glitch Venom needs to Power-Up, then change to a different character without finishing an attack or otherwise canceling the effect. If Venom isn't flashing when he leaves the screen then the glitch probably wasn't executed correctly.

When Venom is brought back into play and uses Power-Up again the glitch is deactivated.

When attempting to setup the glitch, the following moves can be whiffed without removing any of the Power-Up effect:

• +
• +
• +

Venom will remain flashing if any of these moves hit, but he will not have the increased damage. Also, performing an additional Power-Up in this state will not give the increased damage back. In this exact situation, the only way to be sure you're gaining the damage increase is to remove the original flashing effect by using any other attacks, then performing another Power-Up.

THC Headcrush

The normal Headcrush is one of Venom's most consistent and punishing threats. The THC Headcrush, on the other hand, has some interesting differences that bring some much needed depth to the table. THC Headcrush is unmashable which might mean less damage up-front, but is Venom's fastest attack by a huge margin. This extra speed allows it to punish basically everything your grounded opponent might consider safe and has the added benefit of being unblockable in certain situations.

Unblockable THC

Having Venom on your team grants you access to the THC Headcrush, even when he's an assist, abuse it if you have the meter and your team allows for it. With Venom as an assist you can THC and his Headcrush has a chance to be unblockable as long as your opponent isn't already in blockstun and you are relatively close to them. This works because THC Headcrush will reach the opponent before the super freeze signals that the opponent can block, but frame skip is what ultimately decides if the Headcrush will connect.