Capcom vs SNK 2/Raiden

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Introduction

CVS2 Raiden SNK Art.jpg
Health (at Ratio 2)
15600 Extremely High
Stun
80 Average
Dash Length
16 Frames Average
Dash Type
Hop Corpse Hop=Yes, Proj. Hop=Yes
Run Speed
5.6 Extremely Slow
Roll Distance
120 pixels Average
Roll Duration
28f Long
Wakeup Speed compared to Ryu
1f Below Average

Story

Raiden is an Australian professional wrestler. He was known for violence, often maiming his opponents and injuring them heavily. Geese Howard noticed this, and hired him on as a henchman. He excelled at this, mostly due to his violent nature. When Geese started The King of Fighters, Raiden entered to find strong fighters to hurt. While he did well in the beginning, he eventually fought against Andy Bogard, who swiftly dispatched him. Humiliated by his defeat, he changed his ways. He went from a heel wrestler (a violent, villain persona wrestler) to a face wrestler (a heroic and fan favorite wrestler), renaming himself to Big Bear. Nowadays, he hangs out with the Bogard brothers and Joe, and enters tournaments under either of his characters to relive his glory days mostly.

Gameplay

Raiden is a very unique character. He's a large, big-body style character mainly, with the highest health value possible in the game. He has a few solid buttons, neat pressure strings, a 421P Rekka in Combination Body Blow for knockdowns, and a strange but useful invincible special with [4]6P Giant Bomb. His useful neutral tools allow him to get a knockdown with his Rekkas and run his notably useful guard crush strings, especially in K-Groove. While he does have a command grab, he doesn't use it often. Instead, he uses his abnormally long range and high damage punch throw to threaten a tick throw from very far away. This has powerful conjunction with his guard crush strings, as the opponent essentially has to guess between a tick throw or a rekka, and then even after the rekka, they have to guess between the 214P followup which is a strike and the 214K followup command grab. Even better, Raiden can use his 63214P Poison Breath for an extremely plus on block special, allowing him to reset this situation constantly.

Raiden does have to struggle around some big weaknesses however. The biggest ones being his size and speed. Raiden wants to get close, but can't crouch under much of anything, and isn't fast enough to evade any pokes either. His poor jump arc doesn't help, forcing him to often just walk and block or risk a gimmick option to get in. Raiden comes equipped with plenty of gimmick options, like Giant Bomb which will blow through opponents mashing buttons or throwing poor fireballs. Still, if the opponent knows how to beat these tools, Raiden isn't left with much that isn't notably high risk. Raiden is an interesting big body character with hints of both the grappler and the guard crush style in him, who has to struggle through neutral and especially on defense to win.

Groove Selection

Best - K: K-Raiden is easily his best Groove. While his run isn't the greatest, it's much better than his dash, and run is always better for approaching. Having hop helps him evade things, and hop j.2HP Flying Body Press lets him threaten a very useful crossup. Rage sends his damage up high, and especially sends his guard crush high, allowing Raiden to realistically guard crush with a few moves. Blocking vs. a Raged Raiden is scary, and if he does land a hit, he hits like a truck. Just Defend is useful to call out pokes aggressively, make jumps a bit less risky, and to beat pressure strings where the opponent doesn't change their timings. His level 3 6321463214P Fire Breath super is also incredibly useful, being able to confirm from his rekka ender easily. This lets him do MASSIVE damage from clean hits, and gives him very realistic 2-touch potential. K-Raiden has everything he needs and more, and is solidly his best Groove.

Useful - N/P/C: N-Raiden is essentially a lesser K-Raiden. He maintains the mobility, but gains a roll, which can be very useful for roll cancels. RC Rekkas and RC Poison Breath especially can be very useful. He sacrifices K-Raiden's guard crush ability and massive damage output, as only the level 3 version of Fire Breath juggles, meaning N-Raiden has to activate Max Mode. Though this isn't a huge weakness, as Raiden has decent dizzy potential, and one dizzy with two bars will likely end the round. P-Raiden gets very consistent parry punishes, and still has hop to use for better mixup potential. His punishes up close are great, but even a far parry can at least get him a throw thanks to his amazing punch throw. P-Raiden won't have meter often, but when he does, he can do massive damage. C-Raiden gets more access to supers overall, upping his damage, and airblock somewhat makes up for losing hop. His level 2 combo does decent damage when using his 236236P Crazy Train super, and while it isn't quite as damaging as a level 3 Fire Breath, he has access to it more often.

Worst - A/S: A-Raiden has one massive weakness, and that's lacking any synergy with Custom Combo. While Raiden's CC is simple and does good damage, he lacks any utility with it in the same way the best A-Groove characters have. His only real anti-air CC being in the corner, no good blocked CC, and all of the utility it has like being able to confirm a CC after a Rekka being done better by level 3 Fire Breath holds him back a lot. Otherwise, all of what A-Raiden has, C-Raiden also has. S-Raiden similarly struggles, as he loses any high damage potential until very low health. Raiden can charge and not be too scared of getting hit thanks to his high health, but it's still not a great thing to deal with, and S-Groove has very little strength otherwise.


Raiden is a big body character who dishes out damage and crushes guard with the best of them when he gets in. He has to struggle to get the opponent sitting still, but if he can, he shines with powerful blockstrings and massive damage, especially in his best Groove. Raiden is best in K-Groove.
Pros Cons
  • Damage: Raiden is capable of dishing out massive damage, especially with Rage, where he can juggle after his 421P > 214P with a level 3 Fire Breath
  • Health: Tied with Zangeif and Chang for the highest health value possible, Raiden can take plenty of hits and keep going
  • Guard Crush: Using his 63214P Poison Breath, Raiden can constantly reset pressure, all while threatening a powerful strike/throw mixup, allowing him to melt opponents guard bars
  • Strike/Throw: While you may think this is because of his command grab, Raiden actually uses just his simple punch throw for this. This is because his punch throw has abnormally long reach and high damage, allowing him to threaten a throw from farther out than anyone else can
  • Giant Bomb: [4]6P Giant Bomb is a unique special with tons of invincibility on the startup, and it can be spaced out to be fairly hard to punish. If your opponent doesn't know how to deal with this, Raiden's neutral becomes much better
  • Big and Slow: Raiden has to struggle through neutral vs a lot of the top tiers since he is both a very large hurtbox and not very mobile. CvS2 is almost entirely about neutral, so this weakness can't be understated
  • No Reversal: While Giant Bomb does have invincibility, it isn't a true reversal, forcing Raiden to rely on system mechanics to escape pressure
  • Weak Normals: Raiden lacks any sort of ridiculous button like many of the top tiers, and will often just be walking forward and blocking in neutral to get into close range
  • K-Groove Reliant: Because of the strength of K-Groove and his synergy with it, Raiden can only really compete in K-Groove, which means many teams simply can't have Raiden and still succeed




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Normal Moves

Far Normals

5LP

Far Jab
Far Light Punch
5LP / Far LP
CVS2 Raiden 5LP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Lp.png 500 5 SP/SU Mid High 4 4 10 18 +1 +1 None

A quick upward chop.

  • Slow, but can work as a very short but useable anti-air.

5MP

Far Strong
Far Medium Punch
5MP / Far MP
CVS2 Raiden 5MP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Mp.png 1100 11 None Mid High 9 10 13 32 -1 -1 None

A big palm strike.

  • Most times you may get this normal because you're trying to get close 5MP, but it still has uses.
  • Works as an anti-air, but the vertical range on the hitbox is short, so you can't press it too early.
  • Useable poke.

5HP

Far Fierce
Far Heavy Punch
5HP / Far HP
CVS2 Raiden 5HP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Hp.png 1600 16 None Mid High 10 6 15 31 +5 +5 None

A big gut punch.

  • No cancels, so as a whiff punish you only get the 1600 damage from the punch.
  • Really slow as a poke, but if landed you are +5.

5LK

Far Short
Far Light Kick
5LK / Far LK
CVS2 Raiden 5LK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Lk.png 500 5 SU Mid High 6 6 7 19 +4 +4 None

A quick midsection kick.

  • Really good button to pressure with while threating a strike/throw mixup.
  • Great poke, decent range and pretty fast, you can throw it out and risk nothing.
  • Has good active frames for a light normal.

5MK

Far Forward
Far Medium Kick
5MK / Far MK
CVS2 Raiden 5MK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Mk.png 1000 10 None Mid High 9 10 14 33 -2 -2 None

A long ranged toe kick.

  • Has good range, but as a poke it's slow and not rewarding at all.
  • Not that useful.

5HK

Far Roundhouse
Far Heavy Kick
5HK / Far HK
CVS2 Raiden 5HK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Far Hk.png 1400 14 None Mid High 14 8 18 40 -9 0 None

Raiden does a standing dropkick.

  • A very unique normal. While it can go over lows that is pretty much it's only good use.
  • The reason why this normal is -9 on hit and 0 on block is because the movehit data for air normals is used for this button. On block it causes a lot of pushback and is 0. This was most likely customized data specifically for this button. On hit, it causes very little pushback and is -9, which was the result of air normal hitstun and pushback being used here. In terms of practicality, this button kinda sucks, it's punishable on hit, but it's still unique and unlike any other normal in the game.

Close Standing Normals

clMP

Close Strong
cl.MP
CVS2 Raiden cl5MP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close Mp.png 1100 11 SP/SU Mid High 7 7 11 25 +4 +4 None

A downward elbow strike.

  • Your go-to confirm into HP Combination Body Blow and Crazy Train.
  • Decent meaty and up close button.
  • Has a very short proximity range, your best confirm into it is from a crossup j.2HP but you can get it from a typical jump-in but it has to be deep.

clHP

Close Fierce
Close Heavy Punch
cl.HP
CVS2 Raiden cl5HP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close Hp.png 1600 16 SU Mid High 6 8 26 40 -8 -8 None

A slow, powerful clothesline.

  • Nothing really that special with this button, it's unsafe but does have a cancel to super.
  • Most likely seen when Raiden fails to get his punch throw.

clLK

Close Short
Close Light Kick
cl.LK
CVS2 Raiden cl5LK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close Lk.png 600 6 SP/SU Mid High 3 6 7 16 +4 +4 None

A quick midsection knee.

  • Pretty much the same as 5LK, you can pressure with this button and continuously threaten a punch throw.
  • Has a really, really short activation range but the data is pretty much unchanged from 5LK outside of 100 extra damage so it doesn't change too much.
  • Has a special cancel unlike 5LK, but the only special it combos into is LP Combination Body Blow, but since the activation range is near nonexistent you cannot combo into it from chains like 2LP.

clMK

Close Forward
Close Medium Kick
cl.MK
CVS2 Raiden cl5MK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close Mk.png 1100 11 SU Mid High 6 8 14 28 0 0 None

A goofy looking upkick.

  • Can be an up close anti-air for short hops, but much like Raiden's other close normals the activation range is really short.
  • Can't be used for anything else, the super cancel and relatively weak damage makes it not worth using in most situations.

Crouching Normals

2LP

Crouch Jab
Crouching Light Punch
2LP / cr.LP
CVS2 Raiden 2LP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Lp.png 300 3 SP/SU Mid Low 4 4 6 14 +5 +5 None

A fast crouching jab.

  • A good jab as they come, it doesn't hit low but it's really fast and plus.
  • Great button for ticking/pressuring, and is Raiden's go-to jab starter.

2MP

Crouch Strong
Crouching Medium Punch
2MP / cr.MP
CVS2 Raiden 2MP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Mp.png 1000 10 None Mid Low 8 4 19 31 -1 -1 None

A quick low punch.

  • While a serviceable poke, the fact that this button has no cancels makes it very unrewarding in his combos and neutral game.
  • Pretty short ranged and slow in recovery.

2HP

Crouch Fierce
Crouching Heavy Punch
2HP / cr.HP
CVS2 Raiden 2HP1.png
First Hitbox
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Hp.png 900+600 9+6 None Mid High 11 2+3 29 45 -8 -8 None

An upward axe handle swing.

  • While it's supposed to be one of Raiden's anti-airs, it's painfully slow. The second hitbox (the one that is meant to anti-air) starts up in 13 frames, and considering the massive 29 frame recovery, throwing it out there expecting a jump is not going to lead to good results.
  • Cannot cancel the first hit for combo purposes, it should only be used as a very early anti-air.

2LK

Crouch Short
Crouching Light Kick
2LK / cr.LK
CVS2 Raiden 2LK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Lk.png 400 4 SP/SU Low Low 4 5 11 20 -2 -2 None

A quick low toe tap.

  • Unlike 2LP, 2LK can combo into HP Combination Body Blow, so it should be used for light confirms into it.
  • Good poke, but due to the big 11 frame recovery and being minus it's not the best pressure option.

2MK

Crouch Forward
Crouching Medium Kick
2MK / cr.MK
CVS2 Raiden 2MK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Mk.png 1000 10 SP/SU Low Low 6 7 14 27 -2 -2 None

A slower toe tap.

  • Essentially a slower 2LK, but cannot be confirmed into from any ground normal.
  • Has enough hitstun to combo into LP Poison Breath for guard break strings.
  • If you're too far out to get close 5MP, use this normal to confirm into HP Combination Body Blow from a jump-in.

2HK

Crouch Roundhouse
Crouching Heavy Kick
2HK / cr.HK
CVS2 Raiden 2HK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Hk.png 1300 13 None Low Low 9 8 24 41 HKND -8 None

A sweeping heel kick.

  • Pretty good startup for a sweep, and being -8 means it's pretty safe with good spacing.
  • While being pretty committing without a cancel, landing this sweep awards Raiden a knockdown and can begin his strong pressure.

Jumping Normals

j.LP

Jump Jab
Jumping Light Punch
j.LP
CVS2 Raiden jLP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Lp.png 600 6 None High High 8 22 - - - - None

A quick aerial palm strike.

  • One of your many air-to-airs. Small damage with okay startup.
  • Pretty outclassed by j.LK unless the opponent in the air-to-air situation is above you.

j.MP

Jump Strong
Jumping Medium Punch
j.MP
CVS2 Raiden jMP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Mp.png 1200 12 None High High 10 11 - - - - -

A slower aerial palm strike.

  • If you want damage from your air-to-air you can use this button, but it is very slow in startup so you need to read the jump most times.

j.HP

Jump Fierce
Jumping Heavy Punch
j.HP
CVS2 Raiden jHP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Hp.png 1400 14 None High High 11 8 - - - - None

A double palm chop.

  • One of Raiden's main jump-in attacks, it is the most damaging air normal Raiden has.
  • As an air-to-air the small disjoint makes it useable but it's even slow than j.MP so the reads are still necessary.

j.LK

Jump Short
Jumping Light Kick
j.LK
CVS2 Raiden jLK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Lk.png 600 6 None High High 4 22 - - - - None

A quick outward leg kick.

  • One of Raiden's best normals. Has really good range, and is especially scary in hop grooves where he can use a 4-frame high in tandem with his lows and threaten a punch throw afterwards, and he then gets in for more pressure.
  • Great air-to-air and jump-in. It's really fast and has the range to land from most air-to-air positions, but due to the low hitbox those situations are not beneficial to use this normal for.

j.MK

Jump Forward
Jumping Medium Kick
j.MK
CVS2 Raiden jMK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Mk.png 1100 11 None High High 7 11 - 18 - - None

Raiden sticks his leg out.

  • Good air to air and a very long ranged move overall. If j.LK lacks the hitstun for jump-ins or setups, j.MK can be used as an alternative
  • Very okay jump-in, not the best one Raiden has.

j.HK

Jump Roundhouse
Jumping Heavy Kick
j.HK
CVS2 Raiden jHK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Ub.png/U.png/Uf.png+Hk.png 1300 13 None High High 9 8 - 17 - - None

Raiden does an aerial dropkick.

  • Decent air-to-air if done early, but the lack of active frames compared to startup frames can make it a little difficult to use.
  • Can be a jump-in, but Raiden has better options.

Command Normals

Body Press

Bear Stomp
3HK
CVS2 Raiden 3HK.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Df.png+Hk.png 1400 14 None Mid High 13 6 19 38 +2 +2 None

Raiden does a goofy looking stomp in front of him.

  • While looking useless on the surface, as the range is nonexistent and has no visible threat in neutral, this command normal has some specific but very helpful uses due to it's big disjoint on the ground.
  • The main purpose of this normal is to punish low hitting attacks on the ground. While there are many cases where this normal can work, the most noteworthy examples of this are Blanka's Slide/Rolling Ball, and Cammy's Spiral Arrow, which are moves that you will see a lot of if you face those characters. Keep in mind the startup for this move is 13 frames so you may have to preemptively stick it out in neutral, which might lead to it getting beat out during it's recovery. It's a risk that Raiden can take though, as his high health can spare him of some mistakes he makes in neutral.

Body Press

Body Press
j.2HP
CVS2 Raiden dj2HP.png
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
D.png+Hp.png 1300 13 None High High 5 22 - 27 - - None

Raiden stretches his arms outward as he does a flying crossbody.

  • This is Raiden's main cross-up tool. It just adds on to his mix-up game.
  • The main move to confirm into close 5MP, can land at close and farther range.

Throws

Piledriver

Piledriver
Punch Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HP
CVS2 Raiden Rangethrow.png
Throw Range
CVS2 Raiden Pthrow.png
Piledriver
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close B.png/F.png+Hp.png - 22 None - - 3 1 13 17 - - None

Raiden grabs and piledrives his opponent.

  • An absolutely scary throw. At a huge range of 85 pixels, it boasts the longest normal throw range in the game. It also does great damage, especially when raged. Raiden prefers this throw in a vacuum over his 360 and 720 as he can activate it instantly and it gives him great pressure afterwards. This is also his go-to throw over his kick throw as the damage is absolute.

Bear Hug

Bear Hug
Kick Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HK
CVS2 Raiden Rangethrow.png
Throw Range
CVS2 Raiden Kthrow.png
Bear Hug
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Close B.png/F.png+Hk.png - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Special Moves

Poison Breath
Poison Breath
63214+P / hcb+P
Hcb.png + P.png
CVS2 Raiden 63214P1.png
Startup Hitbox
CVS2 Raiden 63214P2.png
Active Hitbox
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
LP
Hcb.png + Lp.png
800 8 None Mid Mid 11 - 43 54 -10 -10 None
MP
Hcb.png + Mp.png
900 9 None Mid Mid 11 - 44 55 -11 -11 None
HP
Hcb.png + Hp.png
1000 10 None Mid Mid 11 - 45 56 -12 -12 None

Super Moves

Crazy Train

Crazy Train
236236P / qcf,qcf+P
Qcf.pngQcf.png+P.png
CVS2 Raiden 236236P1.png
First Hit
CVS2 Raiden 236236P2.png
Tackle Ender
Version Damage Stun Cancel Guard Parry Startup Active Recovery Total Adv Hit Adv Block Invul
Qcf.pngQcf.png+Lp.png 2200 0 None Mid High 12 - 44 56 HKND -5 6 (Full)
Qcf.pngQcf.png+Mp.png 3200 0 SP/SU Mid High 12 - 44 56 HKND -2 13 (Full)
Qcf.pngQcf.png+Hp.png 4700 0 None Mid High 12 - 44 56 HKND +1 20 (Full)

Colors

Raiden CvS2 colors.png


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