Capcom vs SNK 2/Dhalsim: Difference between revisions

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Introduction

Story

Dhalsim is a powerful Yoga master. He is capable of stretching his body out to immense lengths, and conjuring fire from his mouth. He can also teleport, and later on learns how to float. He starts out fighting to raise money for his village, as he cares deeply for those who live there. Although, he has to contradict his natural pacifist beliefs. Throughout many of the games, he finds himself conflicted between his pacifist lifestyle and having to use his great powers to fight for his village. After the events of Street Fighter II: World Warrior, Dhalsim retires from fighting. That is, until S.I.N. in Street Fighter IV builds a dam that bars water from getting into Dhalsim's village. He is once again forced to choose between his pacifist beliefs and the need to fight.

Gameplay

Dhalsim is the original long-arms zoner. He has stretchy normals that allow him to cover plenty of angles, but has to carefully pick and choose which one he needs for what situation, as they all hit at specific and precise angles. While Dhalsim is infamously powerful in other games like Super Turbo and Alpha 3, CvS2 Dhalsim is quite underwhelming. Many characters are dominant in neutral already, and his extended hurtboxes end up hurting him a lot more. His weak defense makes Grooves with hop and run dismantle him, and he struggles to properly zone them at all. His normally powerful fireball is beaten out by CvS2's roll cancel glitch, as are many of his zoning tools in general, and his offensive mixup is much worse than normal. Overall, Dhalsim is a low tier that has to win neutral every single time in order to win.

Dhalsim does still have very powerful zoning tools however. His normals, namely ones like 5LK and 5HP, control a bunch of grounded space. 5HK and 4MP are great anti-airs, and his divekicks help him be aggressive and mobile. He has fairly useful supers for zoning and chipping. He has a risky but strong reversal in his teleports, and it can be hard to properly punish them as well. Dhalsim has powerful neutral tools, but not much else. You have to win neutral more than anyone else to win, and one time of losing it can spell the end. You can be winning for the majority of the match, but one good hit from the opponent can spell your doom.

Groove Selection

Best - C: C-Dhalsim is the best Groove for Dhalsim, plain and simple. Airblock makes his horrible floaty jump a lot safer, lots of access to his supers makes his damage, reversal, and chip out game a lot more solid, and Alpha Counters give him a MUCH needed defensive option. Roll cancel lets him RC his fire specials to make them much harder to contest and much more annoying in neutral. While his roll isn't great, it can be appreciated as a risky escape tool. C-Groove gives Dhalsim the defensive options he needs and lots of access to his supers: all that he needs to perform well.

Useful - A/S: A-Dhalsim is a bit of a lesser C-Dhalsim. Losing airblock hurts a lot, but you get Custom Combo in return. While this isn't necessarily a bad trade, Dhalsim's CC isn't the greatest, and he would rather just have his supers. Still, you get the basic defense of C-Groove plus a decent reversal combo tool with big damage potential: it could be a lot worse. S-Dhalsim is a lot more gimmicky. While charging doesn't actively hurt his gameplan, getting hit while charging can end the round for Dhalsim. He has no access to supers for a majority of the round, which doesn't hurt too bad, but at low health having infinite level 1's makes him a bit scarier.

Worst - K/N/P: K-Dhalsim is strange to play. Dhalsim having run and hop isn't as beneficial to his gameplan as you might think, since his offense isn't very rewarding for how much risk it carries. Rage does make his normal poke strategy much scarier however, and a good punish into a level 3 still hurts, so K-Dhalsim with Rage has some merit. N-Dhalsim is a worse version of K-Dhalsim. His level 1's are solid but not good enough to live on just level 1 supers alone, and he doesn't have a good enough RC special for N-Groove. P-Dhalsim is the worst way to play him. Dhalsim has very weak punishes, meaning parries do very little, though he can almost always at least punish thanks to his range. Only having roughly one level 3 super per round hurts, and the lack of any other good options is a major sacrifice.

Dhalsim is a fragile long-arm zoner who relies on massive range normals to keep opponents out. However, if he fails, he often dies in one or two interactions. Dhalsim is best in C-Groove. Difficulty: Hard Tier: C
Pros	Cons
Normals: Dhalsim's massive normals list gives him a tool for most situations, and he can zone very effectively with good usage of his tools Unique Mobility: Despite his jump and slow walkspeed and run, he can be surprisingly mobile, with multiple teleports, divekicks, and slides Zoning: Combining the two above strengths, Dhalsim can keep his opponents out for a majority of the round	Low Health: If the opponent gets one clean hit, Dhalsim hurts a lot, and it leads into a knockdown which gets the opponent in, opening him up for another big punish, and likely killing him Extended Hurtboxes: All of Dhalsim's normals extend hurtboxes with them, meaning invincible moves or moves with a bunch of active frames will hit him even from fullscreen away Bad Punishes: Dhalsim's combos are weak and don't do much damage, especially without meter Large Toolset: Learning Dhalsim can be very hard, as his normals all cover specific uses and he has a LOT of normals. Getting used to all of the different situations to use all of his different tools is key to winning with him

Players to Watch

Name	Country	Groove	Accounts	Notes
Iyo	Japan	N/C-Groove	N/A	The Dhalsim God. A player who gained immense respect in his day for being this good with Sim, and unfortunately does not play anymore. N-Groove Sample Match C-Groove Sample Match

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Normal Moves

Far Normals

5LP

Stand Jab
Stand Light Punch
5LP / Stand LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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5MP

Stand Strong
Stand Medium Punch
5MP / Stand MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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5HP

Stand Fierce
Stand Heavy Punch
5HP / Stand HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

5LK

Stand Short
Stand Light Kick
5LK / Stand LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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5MK

Stand Forward
Stand Medium Kick
5MK / Stand MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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5HK

Stand Roundhouse
Stand Heavy Kick
5HK / Stand HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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4LP

Back Jab
Back Light Punch
4LP / b.LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

4MP

Back Strong
Back Medium Punch
4MP / b.MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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4HP

Back Fierce
Back Heavy Punch
4HP / b.HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

4LK

Back Short
Back Light Kick
4LK / b.LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

4MK

Back Forward
Back Medium Kick
4MK / b.MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

4HK

Back Roundhouse
Back Heavy Kick
4HK / b.HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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Crouching Normals

2LP

Crouch Jab
Crouching Light Punch
2LP / cr.LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

2MP

Crouch Strong
Crouching Medium Punch
2MP / cr.MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

2HP

Crouch Fierce
Crouching Heavy Punch
2HP / cr.HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

2LK

Crouch Short
Crouching Light Kick
2LK / cr.LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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2MK

Crouch Forward
Crouching Medium Kick
2MK / cr.MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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2HK

Crouch Roundhouse
Crouching Heavy Kick
2HK / cr.HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

1LP

Downback Jab
1LP / db.LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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1MP

Downback Strong
1MP / db.MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

1HP

Downback Fierce
1HP / db.HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

1LK

Downback Short
1LK / db.LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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1MK

Downback Forward
1MK / db.MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

1HK

Downback Roundhouse
1HK / db.HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Jumping Normals

j.LP

Jump Jab
Jumping Light Punch
j.LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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j.MP

Jump Strong
Jumping Medium Punch
j.MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.HP

Jump Fierce
Jumping Heavy Punch
j.HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.LK

Jump Short
Jumping Light Kick
j.LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.MK

Jump Forward
Jumping Medium Kick
j.MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.HK

Jump Roundhouse
Jumping Heavy Kick
j.HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.4LP

Jump Back Jab
Jumping Light Punch
j.4LP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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j.4MP

Jump Back Strong
j.4MP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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j.4HP

Jump Back Fierce
j.4HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.4LK

Jump Back Short
j.4LK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.4MK

Jump Back Forward
j.4MK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

j.4HK

Jump Back Roundhouse
j.4HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
//, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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Command Normals

X

Drill Zutsuki
Yoga Mummy
j.2HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
In Air, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Drill Kick
j.2K

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
In Air, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
In Air, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
In Air, +	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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Throws

X

Generic Throw Name
Punch Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HP

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
Close /+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Generic Throw Name
Kick Throw
Near Opponent, 4/6HK

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
Close /+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
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Special Moves

X

Yoga Fire
236P

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Yoga Flame
63214P

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Yoga Blast
63214K

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Yoga Teleport Forward
623PPP/KKK (Air OK)

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

X

Yoga Teleport Backward
421PPP/KKK (Air OK)

Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Super Moves

X

Yoga Stream
236236P

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Yoga Volcano
236236K

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Placeholder

X

Yoga Tempest
6321463214P

Version	Damage	Stun	Cancel	Guard	Parry	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Adv Hit	Adv Block	Invul
+	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Colors

CvS2 Wiki Navigation

Capcom vs. SNK 2 (CvS2 Wiki)
General
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SNK Characters
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Boss Characters
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