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Raven

Ideal Team Position: Either

While one would think having a projectile as good as Raven’s would mean he’s strictly a zoner, this is just one facet of the ninja’s attack plan. While his projectiles are strong, especially if he can use them in the air to create a ceiling that forces the opponent to stay on the ground, Raven excels at close range combat thanks to an excellent set of close-range buttons ideal for hit confirms and low profiling enemy attacks. His meterless damage output is well above average if he is able to use his cr.HP CADC’d into combo enders, and even the cr.HP CADC’d into itself is very difficult to punish on block which means Raven can continue pressuring the opponent up close. Even if you decide to play him as a traditional zoner, Raven is very dangerous in fireball wars thanks to his ability to teleport and counter if an opponent throws a projectile back at him. His teleport is also very useful in chasing down raw tags from any distance, ensuring that he is always on the offensive. With all of these options at his disposal, Raven’s primary failing is shifting momentum if he finds himself on the defensive: his main reversal costs meter and is not safe on block, nor can it be tagged from. His Alpha Counter comes out slow and sometimes won’t hit in full even if he lands a successful hit, and while his teleport is fast, it does not take him very far and can be chased down easily if he telegraphs it. However, his versatility allows him to be played in either position, so place him on your team as you see fit. Raven has a strong rushdown game coupled with a decent zoning tool. With Raven's projectile he can set up situations to mix up his opponent with Haze giving him opportunities to use his high damaging combos.

Strengths

Weaknesses

+high damage output

+cr.mk low profiles many standing attacks and can be comboed from

+cr.MK can trip jumping approaches into a full combo

+multiple ways to achieve juggle state meterless (qcb+P or a CADC’d cr.HP)

+a CADC’d cr.HP is not particularly disdvantageous on block, allowing Raven to either confirm to a full juggle combo or continue pressure

+normal attacks have decent priority and hitboxes for either close or mid-range combat

+Very strong in fireball wars thanks to being able to teleport next to an opponent for a full combo punish as well as throw fireballs himself

+a boosted far s.HP has significant pushback and is difficult to punish for many characters

-Lacking a reliable reversal as his EX Teleport Divekick is not safe on block nor can it be tagged from to make it safe

-Difficulty retreating if he is low on health and it’s his obvious best course of action

-High-low game off of Target combo is very risky as both the overhead and low options are unsafe on block, and both options can be fuzzy guarded thus negating its use as a true mixup.

-Alpha Counter is slow and can be blocked easily, and recovery is too long to tag freely into his partner if he is low on health.

Moves

Normal Attacks

Name

Command

Notes

Standing Light Punch

Standing Medium Punch

Standing Hard Punch

Standing Light Kick

Standing Medium Kick

Standing Hard Kick

Close Hard Punch

(near opponent)

Close Hard Kick

(near opponent)

Crouching Light Punch

+

Crouching Medium Punch

+

Crouching Hard Punch

+

Crouching Light Kick

+

Crouching Medium Kick

+

Crouching Hard Kick

+

Jump Light Punch

/

+

Jump Medium Punch

/

+

Jump Hard Punch

/

+

Jump Light Kick

/

+

Jump Medium Kick

/

+

crossup

Jump Hard Kick

/

+

vs airborne

Unique Attacks

Name

Command

Notes

Stormbringer

+

or

vs airborne

Skull Smasher

+

on 2nd hit

vs airborne

Skull Smasher Feint

+

on 2nd hit

vs airborne

Skull Smasher Feint Low

+

on
2nd hit

vs airborne

Throws

Name

Command

Notes

Orbiting Moon

or

+

Dark Matter

+

Special Moves

Name

Command

Notes

Crossed Ninja Stars

+

on

vs airborne

Haze

+

or

teleport

Alter Ego

+

/

+

hit

/

+

hit

/

+

hits mid

+

Wind Cross

+

press

on hit or block
for additional attacks

on final hit

Super Combo

Name

Command

Notes

Doppelganger

+

Move Analysis

Normal Moves

N/A

Unique Attacks

N/A

Normal Throws

N/A

Special Moves

N/A

Super Combos

N/A

The Basics

Advanced Strategy

N/A

Combos

Bread and Butters

cl.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cr.LK, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK(436)

(0bar, medium)

Hit Confirm Combos

st.LP, st.LP, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (354)

(0bar, midscreen, medium)

cr.LK, st.LP, cr.HP xx qcb+P(delay), cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (375)

(0bar, midscreen, hard)

Post-launch Combos

cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP, xx qcf+HK

Works from all tags and launchers, may have to hold forward on cl.MP (0bar, easy)

qcb+P, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP, xx qcf+HK

Works tagged from all groundbounce moves, certain air moves and from Vega's launcher (0bar, height-specific, character-specific, medium)

Advanced Combos

cl.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK(457)

(0bar, midscreen, hard)

cr.HP xx qcb+P(delay), cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (435)

(0bar, midscreen, medium)

qcf+PP, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (385)

(1bar, easy)

qcf+PP, st.HK, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (415)

(1bar, easy)

qcf+PP, qcb+P, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (445)

(1bar, midscreen, easy)

Combos Into Supers

N/A

Game Navigation

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 {{SFxTCharacterHeader|Raven|raven|
-TBW
+Either
 |
-Raven has a strong rushdown game coupled with a decent zoning tool.  With Raven's projectile he can set up situations to mix up his opponent with Haze giving him opportunities to use his {{high}} damaging combo's.}}
+While one would think having a projectile as good as Raven’s would mean he’s strictly a zoner,
+this is just one facet of the ninja’s attack plan. While his projectiles are strong, especially if he
+can use them in the air to create a ceiling that forces the opponent to stay on the ground, Raven
+excels at close range combat thanks to an excellent set of close-range buttons ideal for hit
+confirms and low profiling enemy attacks. His meterless damage output is well above average if
+he is able to use his cr.HP CADC’d into combo enders, and even the cr.HP CADC’d into itself is
+very difficult to punish on block which means Raven can continue pressuring the opponent up
+close. Even if you decide to play him as a traditional zoner, Raven is very dangerous in fireball
+wars thanks to his ability to teleport and counter if an opponent throws a projectile back at him.
+His teleport is also very useful in chasing down raw tags from any distance, ensuring that he is
+always on the offensive. With all of these options at his disposal, Raven’s primary failing is
+shifting momentum if he finds himself on the defensive: his main reversal costs meter and is not
+safe on block, nor can it be tagged from. His Alpha Counter comes out slow and sometimes
+won’t hit in full even if he lands a successful hit, and while his teleport is fast, it does not take
+him very far and can be chased down easily if he telegraphs it. However, his versatility allows
+him to be played in either position, so place him on your team as you see fit.
+Raven has a strong rushdown game coupled with a decent zoning tool.  With Raven's projectile he can set up situations to mix up his opponent with Haze giving him opportunities to use his high damaging combos.
+|
++high damage output
++cr.mk low profiles many standing attacks and can be comboed from
++cr.MK can trip jumping approaches into a full combo
++multiple ways to achieve juggle state meterless (qcb+P or a CADC’d cr.HP)
++a CADC’d cr.HP is not particularly disdvantageous on block, allowing Raven to either confirm
+to a full juggle combo or continue pressure
++normal attacks have decent priority and hitboxes for either close or mid-range combat
++Very strong in fireball wars thanks to being able to teleport next to an opponent for a full
+combo punish as well as throw fireballs himself
++a boosted far s.HP has significant pushback and is difficult to punish for many characters
+|
+-Lacking a reliable reversal as his EX Teleport Divekick is not safe on block nor can it be tagged
+from to make it safe
+-Difficulty retreating if he is low on health and it’s his obvious best course of action
+-High-low game off of Target combo is very risky as both the overhead and low options are
+unsafe on block, and both options can be fuzzy guarded thus negating its use as a true mixup.
+-Alpha Counter is slow and can be blocked easily, and recovery is too long to tag freely into his
+partner if he is low on health.}}
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 == The Basics ==
-*One of the core things for Raven right now is the "Raven Loop", using {{ {{d}} + {{hp}} , {{chrg}} (charge) {{qcb}} + {{p}} , {{f}} f (dash cancel) , repeat }}. This allows Raven to juggle his sweeping {{ {{d}} + {{hp}} }} repeatedly for strong damage, and opening up many combo and reset options.
-*Raven has very good mobility, his dash and backdash are extremely fast and cover a great deal of distance.  Using his dash alongside his projectile will create opportunities to move safely.
+== Advanced Strategy ==
+N/A
-*Raven's haze is an invincible move on startup, once raven has started to appear he can be damaged.  If used to teleport in on the enemy without projectile support he can be punished by a full combo.
-*Raven's skull smasher is a good combo starter, it is safe and backdashing after allows Raven to be at a safe distance.
+== Combos ==
+=== Bread and Butters ===
-*Raven has trouble dealing with characters that have decent firballs and standard reach.  Most of Raven's normals cover less than average space, all shoto's can beat out most of Raven's normals with Cr.MK.  Zangief and Hugo are almost impossible to beat with raven due to their reach, anti-airs and invincible attacks (command grabs). Zangief can lariat or green hand Raven's projectile and Hugo can armor through them.
+* cl.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cr.LK, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK(436)
+(0bar, medium)
-*Raven's jab pressure is above average but will be nerfed in the upcomming 2013 patch, although he will be getting a decent anti-air in his Far HK.
-== Advanced Strategy ==
+=== Hit Confirm Combos ===
-N/A
+* st.LP, st.LP, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (354)
+(0bar, midscreen, medium)
+* cr.LK, st.LP, cr.HP xx qcb+P(delay), cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (375)
+(0bar, midscreen, hard)
+=== Post-launch Combos ===
+* cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP, xx qcf+HK
+Works from all tags and launchers, may have to hold forward on cl.MP
+(0bar, easy)
-== Combos ==
+* qcb+P, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP, xx qcf+HK
-=== Bread and Butters ===
+Works tagged from all groundbounce moves, certain air moves and from Vega's launcher
-* N/A
+(0bar, height-specific, character-specific, medium)
-=== Hit Confirm Combos ===
-* N/A
 === Advanced Combos ===
-* N/A
+* cl.HK, cr.MP xx qcb+P, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK(457)
+(0bar, midscreen, hard)
+* cr.HP xx qcb+P(delay), cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (435)
+(0bar, midscreen, medium)
+* qcf+PP, cl.MP, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (385)
+(1bar, easy)
+* qcf+PP, st.HK, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (415)
+(1bar, easy)
+* qcf+PP, qcb+P, cr.HP xx CADC, cl.HP xx qcf+HK (445)
+(1bar, midscreen, easy)
 === Combos Into Supers ===