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| == Introduction == | | == Wiki Status and Progress == |
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| Released in 2001, Capcom vs SNK 2 ("CvS2") is the sequel to the first fighting collaboration between the SNK and Capcom franchises. The main features include 6 Grooves (fighting styles), 48 total characters, a refined ratio system, and traditional Street Fighter gameplay. Although CvS2 is a Capcom-developed game, it still retains elements from SNK's popular King of Fighters games, which features a wide selection of characters in a team-based format.
| | The CvS2 Discord community has started the process of finally updating and modernizing the CvS2 Wiki. Much of the information here was originally on the old SRK Wiki, which was haphazardly culled together. When the wiki was moved from SRK to Mizuumi, and finally here to Supercombo, additional information from various FAQs was added and initial an character page template was created. As of early 2022, work is finally beginning to bring that template to more character pages, as well as clean up and better organize other data pages. |
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| The arcade version of the game was released on SEGA's NAOMI platform and required an attached GD-ROM unit.
| | To get a good idea of the level of quality we would like to eventually have all the character pages at, see [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Hibiki|Hibki]], [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Maki|Maki]], and [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Iori|Iori]]. |
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| Home versions of CvS2 can be found on the Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox and Gamecube. The Dreamcast and PS2 versions of the game are Arcade perfect. Xbox and Gamecube versions of the game are subtitled "EO" feature an extra Groove which showcases the EO ("Easy Operation") system that is designed only for Xbox and Gamecube console controllers. The EO system basically allows special moves to be done with ease using the right analog stick (on both the GC and Xbox pads), since those controllers were not designed well for fighting games. There were also some balance changes, system tweaks, and the removal of the "roll cancel" glitch in these two versions.
| | Most of the links in the wiki navbox (see below) will have good info, albeit very cluttered and disorganized. Fixing these up is being done in parallel with the character pages. |
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| == Netplay Information ==
| | For progress updates, or if you would like to help edit the wiki, visit the [https://tinyurl.com/CvS2Discord CvS2 Discord] and inquire in the <code>#cvs2-wiki-discussion</code> channel. |
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| CvS2 can be played online with GGPO rollback netplay. However, the only way to play online currently is through emulation. Fightcade is most popular but there are other options. Please see [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Emulation and Netplay|Emulation and Netplay]] for downloads, guides, and setup information.
| | Some basic information about the game is available on this page (but will eventually be dispersed into their own pages). |
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| == Basic Strategy == | | == Introduction == |
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| * Lesson 1: Control your space: learn your basic, big pokes and anti airs. Learn your normals, they're very important. Learn how to throw rolls.
| | Released in 2001, Capcom vs SNK 2 ("CvS2") is the sequel to the first fighting collaboration between the SNK and Capcom franchises. The main features include 6 Grooves (fighting styles), 48 total characters, a refined ratio system, and traditional Street Fighter gameplay. Although CvS2 is a Capcom-developed game, it still retains elements from SNK's popular King of Fighters games, which features a wide selection of characters in a team-based format. |
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| * Lesson 2: Limit your mistakes: Don't do unsafe moves or predictably jump when the opponent is ready. Especially when they have meter.
| | See [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/CvS2_Game_Versions|CvS2 Game Versions]] for more information on which systems CvS2 is available on and the differences between versions. |
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| * Lesson 3: Punish their mistakes: Learn the most efficient combos (preferably into supers) from light attacks and your furthest range attacks. Know your frame data for punishes.
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| *Lesson 4: Learn your groove. Know the inside and out of your groove to maximize your advantage in battle. Work on your Parrying/Just Defense/Dodging. Practice your custom combos and level 2 cancels. Work low jumps into your play. Utilize corpse hop dashes if you have one, etc etc. And of course, practice roll canceling.
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| *Lesson 5: Learn the other grooves of your opponents. Know how to approach and counter someone who is proficient with parrying/dodging/just defending. It normally requires to mix up your game plan, especially when poking or anti-airing. Learn safe fall punishes. Avoid giving A groove the "EASY ACTIVATE". Learn to counter rolls and roll cancels.
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| * Lesson 6: Open them up and/or force mistakes. Once a player is solid, they won't give the game to you, you'll need to open them up. Learn:
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| **left/right mixups (crossups)
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| **high/low mixups (overheads vs lows)
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| **frame traps (choosing to throw or attack when you have frame advantage)
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| ** Guard crush strings
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| ** command throw setups
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| ** safe jump/option select setups
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| ** footsies some more once you realize that #2,3,4,5, 6 usually need a knockdown to setup
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| * Lesson 7: Know when to throw the rule book away, and make calculated risks. Is doing random supers bad? Yes. Is doing a 'random' super that's safe on block when your K groove rage is about to expire bad? Probably not. Learn tactics that are risky (as in waste meter or allow a punish if they fail), but weigh the risk vs reward of doing it. Consider:
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| ***Is this based on prior gameplay habits, a read, or a guess?
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| ***Is your opponent aware of conditions that make you more likely to attempt this risk?
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| **how much can your opponent punish you?
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| ** how much you gain from doing it?
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| ***i.e. would it kill a character that's a problem MU
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| ***does it effect the range of options your opponent has to consider, thereby making your 'by the book' tactics more effective?
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| == Advanced Strategy == | |
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| When choosing which characters to learn it is important to pay attention to which characters have the strongest moveset or qualities that make them a step above the other characters in the game. All the characters in the High-Mid Tier can be (and often are) considered Top Tier among different respected players.
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| *✅ means that character is roughly equivalent or also well suited for that groove. There may be advantages and disadvantages, but they more or less wash out.
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| *🔻 means that character is usable/well suited for that groove, but should be considered a tier (or two) lower in comparison to their ideal groove.
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| * if a groove isn't listed, that character isn't recommended for that groove. This doesn't mean they are bad, however. A-groove Sagat is still better than A-groove Yuri
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| '''Boss Tier (Banned in all tournaments):'''
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| Evil Ryu
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| A-Bison (C, N= 🔻 K,S=🔻🔻 )
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| A-Vega (C= ✅ K,P= 🔻)
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| A-Hibiki (N, K, C= ✅)
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| C-Ken (A, N, K, P= 🔻 S= 🔻🔻)
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| C-Honda (N, A= ✅)
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| K-Cammy (P= ✅, C, N= 🔻 )
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| K-Geese (P= ✅, C, N= 🔻 )
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| K-Rock (P= ✅, C, N= 🔻 )
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| K-Kyo (P= ✅ A, N= 🔻 C= 🔻🔻 )
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| N-Chun (C= ✅ P, K= 🔻 S= 🔻🔻)
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| A-Yun (C= ✅)
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| A-Athena (C= 🔻, S=🔻🔻)
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| A-Eagle (C= ✅)
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| A-Todo (C, N=🔻, S= 🔻🔻)
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| C-Yamazaki (A= ✅ P, N, K=🔻)
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| C-Ryu (N= ✅ S=🔻)
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| C-Rugal (A, N, K, P= ✅)
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| N-Akuma (K= ✅ C=🔻)
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| N-Mai (K= ✅, (P=🔻)
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| N-Morrigan (K= 🔻, S=🔻🔻)
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| A-Terry (N= ✅ K=🔻)
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| A-Haohmaru (K= ✅ C=🔻)
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| A-Yuri (K,C,N= ✅ S=🔻)
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| C-Balrog (K= ✅ N=🔻)
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| C-Kyosuke (A= ✅ S=🔻)
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| K-Raiden (A, P= ✅ S=🔻)
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| Roll cancelling (RCing) is a very exploitable glitch in CvS2, accomplished by cancelling the first 3 frames of any roll directly into a special move (and certain other things, like supers and stuff). This gives the roll-cancelled special move the properties of the roll in addition to whatever special properties it already had. Translation? Your roll-cancelled special move becomes invincible. It's important to note that like rolls, most RCed moves can be thrown as well. The only exception are moves that are airborne (shoto hurricanes) or are naturally invincible anyway (shoto uppercuts). The length of the roll cancel is exactly the same as the character roll time. This last part should be common sense, but RCs can only be performed in grooves that have the ability to roll.
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| | CvS2 can be played online with GGPO rollback netplay. However, the only way to play online currently is through emulation. Fightcade is most popular but there are other options. See [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Emulation and Netplay|Emulation and Netplay]] for downloads, guides, and setup information. |
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| Let's say you have Rolento and you start doing standing jabs in front of the opponent. What you want to do is either have the opponent attack, giving you the option to do a counter hit jab into crouching forward xx patriot circle combo, or have the opponent block so that you can throw them.
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| Counter hits do more damage and give more frame advantage than a normal hit.
| | BAS, one of the top players in Japan and the ''de facto'' ambassador for CvS2, compiled a character tier list in 2020. It is available to view on Twitter: |
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| ===Safe Jump-ins===
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| A safe jump-in is when you jump-in with an attack and the opponents only options are to either block, or take the hit; If the opponent wakes up with a reversal uppercut/super/other invincible move, you'll still be able to land and block in time. If your jump-in connects, you can hitconfirm into the combo of your choice, or setup mixups.
| | Each character is listed with the groove (or grooves) that they may be considered at their strongest and/or have the most potential using. This in no way claims that those characters must use those grooves to be in their listed tier, however. While some characters are definitely better in some grooves than others, it ultimately comes down to how many tools a character has available to them regardless of groove, which is how you should be viewing this tier list. |
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| | Ultimately, CvS2 has very few truly "low tier" characters, and as history has shown just about every character in the game can compete in the right groove/team combination. |
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| | Information on grooves and a groove tier list is available on the [[Capcom_vs_SNK_2/Grooves|Grooves]] page. |
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| | To perform a roll cancel, you must be in a groove with rolls (C-Groove, A-Groove, or N-Groove). Begin the motion of a special move, but part way through, input a roll (LP+LK). If you finish the input of the special move within three frames, the roll animation will cancel and the input special move will come out instead, but still with the invulnerability frames of the roll. |
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Capcom vs. SNK 2
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Sega NAOMI
JP: August 3, 2001
NA: August 3, 2001
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Dreamcast
JP: September 13, 2001
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PlayStation 2
JP: September 13, 2001
NA: November 6, 2001
PAL: November 30, 2001
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Gamecube (as CvS2 EO)
JP: July 4, 2003
PAL: August 30, 2003
NA: September 23, 2003
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Xbox (as CvS2 EO)
JP: July 16, 2003
NA: August 11, 2003
PAL: September 7, 2003
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Playstation Network
JP: September 19, 2012
NA: July 16, 2013
EU: December 11, 2013
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Rollback (via Flycast )
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Discord Server
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Wiki Status and Progress
The CvS2 Discord community has started the process of finally updating and modernizing the CvS2 Wiki. Much of the information here was originally on the old SRK Wiki, which was haphazardly culled together. When the wiki was moved from SRK to Mizuumi, and finally here to Supercombo, additional information from various FAQs was added and initial an character page template was created. As of early 2022, work is finally beginning to bring that template to more character pages, as well as clean up and better organize other data pages.
To get a good idea of the level of quality we would like to eventually have all the character pages at, see Hibki, Maki, and Iori.
Most of the links in the wiki navbox (see below) will have good info, albeit very cluttered and disorganized. Fixing these up is being done in parallel with the character pages.
For progress updates, or if you would like to help edit the wiki, visit the CvS2 Discord and inquire in the #cvs2-wiki-discussion channel.
Some basic information about the game is available on this page (but will eventually be dispersed into their own pages).
Introduction
Released in 2001, Capcom vs SNK 2 ("CvS2") is the sequel to the first fighting collaboration between the SNK and Capcom franchises. The main features include 6 Grooves (fighting styles), 48 total characters, a refined ratio system, and traditional Street Fighter gameplay. Although CvS2 is a Capcom-developed game, it still retains elements from SNK's popular King of Fighters games, which features a wide selection of characters in a team-based format.
See CvS2 Game Versions for more information on which systems CvS2 is available on and the differences between versions.
Netplay Information
CvS2 can be played online with GGPO rollback netplay. However, the only way to play online currently is through emulation. Fightcade is most popular but there are other options. See Emulation and Netplay for downloads, guides, and setup information.
Grooves & Character Tiers
BAS, one of the top players in Japan and the de facto ambassador for CvS2, compiled a character tier list in 2020. It is available to view on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/Ryo151/status/1272451815242518530
Each character is listed with the groove (or grooves) that they may be considered at their strongest and/or have the most potential using. This in no way claims that those characters must use those grooves to be in their listed tier, however. While some characters are definitely better in some grooves than others, it ultimately comes down to how many tools a character has available to them regardless of groove, which is how you should be viewing this tier list.
Ultimately, CvS2 has very few truly "low tier" characters, and as history has shown just about every character in the game can compete in the right groove/team combination.
Information on grooves and a groove tier list is available on the Grooves page.
Roll Cancelling
Roll cancelling is a bug that allows players to apply the invulnerability of a roll to a special move, thereby making the startup of the special move invulnerable. While this sounds game-breaking, because it affects all characters it works out to be a net positive for the game, giving weaker characters better wakeup, reversal, and pressure options.
To perform a roll cancel, you must be in a groove with rolls (C-Groove, A-Groove, or N-Groove). Begin the motion of a special move, but part way through, input a roll (LP+LK). If you finish the input of the special move within three frames, the roll animation will cancel and the input special move will come out instead, but still with the invulnerability frames of the roll.
Full details on Roll Cancelling will be available on its own page, when we get around to making it.
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