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Introduction

Move Analysis

Stance Shift

Gen's stance shifting can be done at any time (during the actual round), but while in neutral, walking or crouching it will take 5 frames to do so. If you don't want to become vulnerable, or you just want to hide it, you can change stances while dashing, jumping, attacking, etc.

Normal Moves

Mantis Stance

S.LP: Typical fast jab. It's 3 frame startup makes this Gen's fastest attack. It chains and got nice frames on both hit and block.

S.MP: This is a key move among Gen's links. Startup at 4 frames, +5 on block and +6 on hit.

S.HP: A fast two-hitter for up close. Forces stand, so you can cancel into HK Gekiro after.

S.LK: With 5 frames of startup and -3 on block, this move is not to be thrown out lightly.

S.MK: A fast and far reaching poke. Cancelling it into Hands (and then into Super) is a staple tool. Priority is lacking though, with a vulerable hitbox extending well past the attackbox.

S.HK: Less speed, reach and damage than S.MK xx Hands, but with much greater priority.

C.LP: Standard crouching jab. Not really as good as either s.lp or c.lk.

C.MP: Another useful zoning tool. It's 2 frames slower than s.mk, but with slightly better damage/frames/priority.

C.HP: Gen's furthest reaching poke, and with great priority that doubles as an anti-air.

C.LK: A 4 frame low attack, standard fare.

C.MK: A bit slow and lacking reach, but useful for going into Hands from a low hit.

C.HK: Gen's sweep is one of the slower, less damaging ones in the game, but it's one of his furthest reaching attacks. You really want those knockdowns.

J.MK: Crossup move. Will be used often.

J.HK: Upward angled air-to-air move with nice damage and priority.

Crane Stance

S.LP: A 4 frame jab that's -4 on block, nothing you'll want to just throw out there. Can chain-cancel into c.lk though.

S.MP: Standard overhead, two hitter with great reach.

S.HP: A deceptive low hitter. Slow but does huge damage. It's unsafe, but the pushback makes it hard to punish. Use it only when the opponent is exptecting an overhead.

S.LK: 8 frame startup, punishable on block. Capcom just didn't want us to use this move.

S.MK: A decent poke with nice damage/priority. Punishable if blocked up close.

S.HK: When used as an anti-air, if only the first hit connects (or trades) you can follow up with Crane Super.

C.LP: A 4 frame jab that leads to nothing. At least this one's even on block.

C.MP: Gen's best poke from Crane stance. It's -3 on block so it can be punished, but only if it's done up close.

C.HP: At 21 frames startup this is a tricky move to use, and note that you take almost twice the damage if you're hit during startup. It does great damage and stun though, so using it after a Focus crumble is a nice option.

C.LK: A quick lancher that is horrible on block. This is a key move to combo into.

C.MK: This move allows Gen to duck under most projectiles, and that's about it.

C.HK: Gen's most reliable anti-air move. Note that it's punishable by a grounded opponent even on hit.

J.MP: This is actually Gen's jumpin with the best priority. Useful if the opponent anti-airs you with normals.

J.HP: Gen curls up into a ball while attacking, giving it a nice priority and guarantees a deep jumpin.

J.LK: Great upward angeled hitbox, fast startup and very long active time. The only drawback is it's puny damage.

J.MK: Gen actually kicks backwards, making this a great and deceptive crossup tool.

J.HK: You can actually hit this move twice (Gen's command normal, Shakudan), making it a tricky and damaging jumpin. When done as an air-to-air it allows you to follow up with Crane Super/Ultra 1.

Normal Throws

(F+)LP+LK:

B+LP+LK:

Command Normals

Shakudan: Crane J.HKx2

Double overhead, making it damaging and tricky. If done air-to-air it juggles into Crane Super/Ultra 1.

Focus / Saving Attack

Special Moves

Super Move

Ultra Move

The Basics

Combos

Strategy

Matchups

Frame Data

MANTIS STYLE
	Block			Super Meter					Frames
Move Name	HL	Damage	Stun	Gain	Cancel Ability	Startup	Active	Recovery	On Guard	On Hit	Notes
LP	HL	25	50	20	ch/sp/su	3	2	7	+3	+5
MP	HL	55	100	40	sp/su	4	5	8	+5	+6	Far version 80 damage
HP	HL	70*40	100*100	40*20	sp/su	5	2*4	17	-3	+1	Forces stand, 1st hit cancellable
LK	HL	40	50	20	su	5	4	13	-3	-2	Far version 40 damage
MK	HL	60	100	40	sp/su	5	3	17	-2	-1
HK	HL	110	200	60	-	8	2	20	-4	0
crouch LP	HL	20	50	20	ch/sp/su	4	2	7	+2	+5
crouch MP	HL	70	100	40	sp/su	7	4	11	-1	+1
crouch HP	HL	100	200	60	-	7	4	19	-5	-1
crouch LK	L	30	50	20	ch/sp/su	4	2	8	+1	+4
crouch MK	L	70	100	40	sp/su	7	3	14	-3	-1
crouch HK	L	85	100	60	-	8	3	22	-7	-	cannot fast recover
Jump LP	H	40	50	20	-	4	7	-	-	-
Jump MP	H	70	100	40	-	5	5	-	-	-
Jump HP	H	100	200	60	-	6	4	-	-	-
Jump LK	H	50	50	20	-	5	8	-	-	-	straight jump 30 damage
Jump MK	H	70	100	40	-	4	8	-	-	-	straight jump 80 damage
Jump HK	H	100	200	60	-	6	3	-	-	-
??? (switch style?)	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	5	-	-
Focus Attack LVL 1	HL	60	100	20	-	21	2	35	-21	-21
Focus attack LVL 2	HL	90	150	40	-	17+12	2	35	-15	-
Focus attack LVL 3	-	150	200	60	-	65	2	35	-	-
Forward Throw	0.9	130	100	40	-	3	2	20	-	-
Back Throw	1.0	120	100	40	-	3	2	20	-	-
Hyakurenkou LP	HL	16xn	20xn	10/5xN	su	5	3(5)3(5)3(5)3	17	+5	+9	Armor break
Hyakurenkou MP	HL	16xn	20xn	10/5xN	su	4	3(3)3(3)3(3)3	17	+5	+9	Armor break
Hyakurenkou HP	HL	16xn	20xn	10/5xN	su	3	3(3)3(3)3(3)3	17	+5	+9	Armor break
Hyakurenkou EX	HL	16xn	20xn	-250/0	su	3	3(3)3(3)3(3)3	17	+5	+9	Armor break
Gekirou LK	HL	10010x420	80*10x5	20/20*5x5	-	5	15	14+8	-35	-	1~4f strike invincible
Gekirou MK	HL	10010x540	80*10x6	20/20*5x6	-	7	15	17+8	-35	-	1~4f strike invincible
Gekirou HK	HL	10010x690	8010x680	20/20*5x7	-	7	15	18+8	-35	-	1~4f strike invincible
Gekirou EX	HL	10010x690	8010x680	-250/0	-	7	15	18+8	-35	-	1~4f strike invincible
Zanei	HL	20*280	0	-1000/0	-	1+6	16	66	-61	-	Invincible LP 1~11/MP 1~8/HP 1~5, Armor break
Ultra Combo 1	HL	405	0	0/0	-	1+10	11	59	-49	-	1~10f invincible, Armor break
Ultra Combo 2	HL	23*420	0	0/0	-	1+8	2(6)2(6)2(6)2	33	-10	-	1~8f invincible

CRANE STYLE
	Block			Super Meter					Frames
Move Name	HL	Damage	Stun	Gain		Startup	Active	Recovery	On Guard	On Hit	Notes
LP	HL	30	50	20	ch/sp/su	4	3	13	-4	-2
MP	L	50*50	50*50	20*20	-	18	2*2	22	-3	+1
HP	L*HL	100*100	100*100	40*20	-	17	2*4	19	-5	0	2nd hit forces stand, 1st hit low attack
LK	HL	40	50	20	su	8	4	13	-3	-2
MK	HL	100	100	40	-	7	4	22	-5	-1
HK	HL	70*50	100*100	40*20	-	5	3(9)2	22	-6	-2
crouch LP	HL	40	50	20	su	4	2	9	0	+3
crouch MP	HL	70	100	40	sp/su	5	4	13	-3	-1
crouch HP	HL	180	300	60	-	21	5	16	-3	+1
crouch LK	L	30	50	20	sp/su	5	6	16	-8	-
crouch MK	L	80	100	40	su	8	3	21	-3	-1
crouch HK	HL	120	150	60	-	5	3	31	-16	-12
Jump LP	H	50	50	20	-	4	7	-	-	-
Jump MP	H	90	100	40	-	4	5	-	-	-	straight jump 80 damage
Jump HP	H	110	200	60	-	5	7	-	-	-	straight jump 100 damage
Jump LK	H	40	50	20	-	4	9	-	-	-
Jump MK	H	70	100	40	-	4	8	-	-	-	straight jump 90 damage
Jump HK	H	100	200	60	-	6	3	-	-	-
??? (switch style?)	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	5	-	-
Shakudan(overhead)	H	50	50	20	-	4	2	-	-	-	Pursuit property
Focus Attack LVL 1	HL	60	100	20	-	21	2	35	-21	-21
Focus attack LVL 2	HL	90	150	40	-	17+12	2	35	-15	-
Focus attack LVL 3	-	150	200	60	-	65	2	35	-	-
Forward Throw	0.9	130	100	60	-	3	2	20	-
Back Throw	1.0	120	100	40	-	3	2	20	-	-
Jasen LP	HL	20x2*60	20x2*80	20/8x2*20	su	6	3(5)1(5)4	20	-3	+1	1~3 hits cancellable
Jasen MP	HL	20x3*65	20x3*80	20/8x3*20	su	6	3(7)3(11)1(5)4	20	-3	+1	1~3 hits cancellable
Jasen HP	HL	20x4*70	20x4*80	20/8x4*20	su	6	3(7)3(12)3(11)1(5)4	20	-3	+1	1~3 hits cancellable
Jasen EX	HL	20x4*80	50x5	-250/0	su	6	3(7)3(12)3(11)1(5)4	20	-3	+1	1~45f projectile invincible, 1~5 hits cancellable
Oga	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	27	-	-
Oga EX	-	-	-	-250/0	-	-	-	27	-	-
Oga Stop	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	30	-	-
Oga Close	H	100	150	30/50	-	13	6	13	-8	-	Armor break
Oga Far	H	100	150	30/50	-	12	7	13	-13	-	Armor break
Oga Ceiling	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	63	-	-
Oga Ceiling Drop	H	100	150	30/50	-	3	15	13	-	-	Armor break
Oga Super Close	H	100	150	30/50	-	3	14	1+12	-	-	Armor break
Super Combo	-	320	0	-1000/0	-	1+0	19	16+16	-	-	Invincible LK 1~12/MK 1~8/HK 1~5, Pursuit property
Ultra Combo 1	-	150*248	0	0/0	-	1+10	8	25+28	-	-	1~11f invincible, Pursuit property
Ultra Combo 2	H	428	0	0/0	-	1+9	until ground	26	-	-
	Block			Super Meter					Frames
Move Name	HL	Damage	Stun	Gain	Cancel Ability	Startup	Active	Recovery	On Guard	On Hit	Notes

Super Street Fighter IV

The characters		Abel • Adon • Akuma • Balrog • Blanka • C. Viper • Cammy • Chun-Li • Cody • Dan • Dee Jay • Dhalsim • Dudley • E. Honda • El Fuerte • Fei Long • Gen • Gouken • Guile • Guy • Hakan • Ibuki • Juri • Ken • M. Bison • Makoto • Rose • Rufus • Ryu • Sagat • Sakura • Seth • T.Hawk • Vega • Zangief

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 ==Move Analysis==
+===Stance Shift===
+Gen's stance shifting can be done at any time (during the actual round), but while in neutral, walking or crouching it will take 5 frames to do so. If you don't want to become vulnerable, or you just want to hide it, you can change stances while dashing, jumping, attacking, etc.
 ===Normal Moves===
 ====Mantis Stance====
-'''S.LP''': A typical fast jab. It's 3 frame startup makes this Gens fastest attack. It chains and got nice frames on both hit and block.
+'''S.LP''': Typical fast jab. It's 3 frame startup makes this Gen's fastest attack. It chains and got nice frames on both hit and block.
 '''S.MP''': This is a key move among Gen's links. Startup at 4 frames, +5 on block and +6 on hit.
-'''S.HP''': A fast two-hitter for up close use. Forces stand, so you can cancel into HK Gekiro after.
+'''S.HP''': A fast two-hitter for up close. Forces stand, so you can cancel into HK Gekiro after.
-'''S.LK''': Standard fare s.lk, but with 5 frames of startup and -3 on block, this move is not to be thrown out lightly.
+'''S.LK''': With 5 frames of startup and -3 on block, this move is not to be thrown out lightly.
-'''S.MK''': A fast and far reaching poke. Cancelling it into Hands (and then into Super) is a staple in Gen's zoning. Priority is lacking though, with a vulerable hitbox extending well past the attackbox.
+'''S.MK''': A fast and far reaching poke. Cancelling it into Hands (and then into Super) is a staple tool. Priority is lacking though, with a vulerable hitbox extending well past the attackbox.
 '''S.HK''': Less speed, reach and damage than S.MK xx Hands, but with much greater priority.
-'''C.LP''': Standard crouching jab. Not as good as either s.lp or c.lk.
+'''C.LP''': Standard crouching jab. Not really as good as either s.lp or c.lk.
-'''C.MP''': Another useful zoning tool. It's 2 frames slower than s.mk, but with slightly better damage and priority.
+'''C.MP''': Another useful zoning tool. It's 2 frames slower than s.mk, but with slightly better damage/frames/priority.
-'''C.HP''': Gen's furthest reaching poke, and with a great priority that also works as an anti-air.
+'''C.HP''': Gen's furthest reaching poke, and with great priority that doubles as an anti-air.
 '''C.LK''': A 4 frame low attack, standard fare.
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 '''C.MK''': A bit slow and lacking reach, but useful for going into Hands from a low hit.
-'''C.HK''': Gen's sweep one of the slower, less damaging ones in the game, but it's one of his furthest reaching attacks.
+'''C.HK''': Gen's sweep is one of the slower, less damaging ones in the game, but it's one of his furthest reaching attacks. You really want those knockdowns.
 '''J.MK''': Crossup move. Will be used often.
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 '''S.LK''': 8 frame startup, punishable on block. Capcom just didn't want us to use this move.
-'''S.MK''': A decent poke with nice priority. Punishable if blocked up close.
+'''S.MK''': A decent poke with nice damage/priority. Punishable if blocked up close.
 '''S.HK''': When used as an anti-air, if only the first hit connects (or trades) you can follow up with Crane Super.
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 '''J.MK''': Gen actually kicks backwards, making this a great and deceptive crossup tool.
-'''J.HK''': You can actually hit this move twice in one attack, making it a tricky and damaging jumpin. When done as an air-to-air it allows you to follow up with Crane Super/Ultra 1.
+'''J.HK''': You can actually hit this move twice (Gen's command normal, Shakudan), making it a tricky and damaging jumpin. When done as an air-to-air it allows you to follow up with Crane Super/Ultra 1.
 ===Normal Throws===
+'''(F+)LP+LK''':
+'''B+LP+LK''':
 ===Command Normals===
+'''Shakudan''': Crane J.HKx2
+Double overhead, making it damaging and tricky. If done air-to-air it juggles into Crane Super/Ultra 1.
 ===Focus / Saving Attack===