レッドアリーマー, Red Arremer | |
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Category | Final (Secret) Boss |
Playstyle | Fullscreen control zoner |
Difficulty | Mostly Easy |
Max Mode Needed? | Almost Useless |
Tier Placement | Top Tier (S) |
Standing Hitbox | ? |
Crouching Hitbox | Tall |
Defense Modifier | 255? (Player) / 255 (CPU) |
Wall Jump | Yes |
Introduction
Red Arremer, or RA for short. is a common enemy from the Ghosts 'n Goblins game series, along with starring a couple of his own games. He's incredibly frustrating to deal with in those games with his sporadic and fast movement, and here he's limited in his movement somewhat due to the nature of fighting game design, but makes up for it with perhaps the most infamous of special moves in SVC: his minions. When used correctly, RA can essentially turn SVC into a mini bullet hell with the amount of projectiles thrown at his foes, so much so that an RA mirror matchup goes as far as to cause slowdown. He has plenty of other great tools that make him a nightmare to deal with as a zoner, however, giving him his top tier placement. He is still very much beatable, however, so don't pick him and shrug it off expecting instant results as experienced players will be able to get in. Which by that point, RA is left with basically nothing.
How to select Red Arremer (Outside of Super Plus)
- You wish to use him? It isn't possible to select him on the Arcade version without cheats, but you can use him in the console versions (PS2 and XBOX). Just select Survival Mode, and beat him, or Athena in it on the 36th fight, and you'll unlock him along with Athena.
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SVC Chaos: SNK VS Capcom Frame Data Glossary | |
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Damage |
How much damage the attack does. This takes into account no defense modifiers, so the damage assumes a 0% damage modifier, or in other words the average defense modifier of 223 against characters like Kyo and Ryu.
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Counter Damage |
How much damage the attack does on a counter hit, or when it connects with an opponent while they're performing an attack. Counter damage values listed are pulled from the SVC Chaos Enterbrain Mook, save Athena, Red Arremer, Serious Mr. Karate and Shin Akuma. |
Guard |
Where the attack hits, and thus where it must be blocked.
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Guard Crush |
How much guard meter damage the attack does to the green Guard Gauge. |
Stun |
How many points of stun the attack adds to the opponent's invisible Stun Gauge. |
Meter |
How much meter is gained for performing/landing the attack. Special moves earn meter both when activated and when they connect with the opponent, whether it hits them or they block it. |
Cancel |
The type of cancel the attack can perform.
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Startup |
How many frames it takes before the move becomes 'active' or has a hitbox. The SVC Chaos wiki uses classic startup notation, which does not include the first active frame. A move with 3 startup becomes active on frame 4. Super and Exceed startup will calculate both the frames before and after the super flash animation as such: X+Y, with X being the startup frames before the flash animation and Y being the startup frames after the flash animation.
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Active |
How many frames a move remains active (can hurt opponents) for. Consecutive sets of active frames on a multi-hit move are separated by a comma. (Example: 3, 4 - The attack has its first hitbox for 3 frames, then the second hitbox for 4 frames)
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Recovery |
How many frames it takes for a move to finish after it's been active. |
Total |
The total number of frames the attack lasts on screen for. This adds up the startup, active, and recovery frames into one number. |
Hit/Block Adv |
These are frame advantage values when the attack hits or is blocked. If the number is positive, then the move will end before the defender can act again. If the number is negative, the defender will be able to act before the attacker and maybe even punish.
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Invulnerability |
Indicates whether there's any frames of invulnerability during the attack. |
Move List
Normal Moves
Since Red Arremer has no standing proximity normals, he only has 4 standing normals. Regardless if you're far or close to the opponent, the attack for the corresponding button doesn't change.
Far/Close Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 4 | 3 | 11 | 18 | -2 | -4 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 7 | 4, (5), 4 | 7 | 27 | +2 | +0 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 8 | 3, 6 | 15 | 32 | 1st= -4 ; 2nd= -1 | 1st= -6 ; 2nd= -3 | - | |
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Crouch Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Low | - | - | - | - | 5 | 2 | 6 | 13 | +4 | +2 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 8 | 3, 6 | 15 | 32 | 1st= -4 ; 2nd= +11 | 1st= -1 ; 2nd= -3 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Low | - | - | - | - | 9 | 16 | 12 | 37 | SKD | -10 | - | |
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Jumping Normals
Like his standing normals, Red Arremer has no differentiation between neutral and diagonal jumping normals, so again, the attack only matters based on what button is pressed.
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 4 | 11 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Throws
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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24 | 24 | Throw | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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0 | 0 | Mid | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Special Moves
Note about the minions: You can have all three types of minions on the screen, but while a minion is on the screen, you can't call another minion of the same type. For example: you call a Zombie. While the zombie is still active and viewable on stage (even if he's offscreen due to player positioning), you can't resummon Zombie until he goes away completely. And technically, yes, you can combo after the 3 types of minions, but it's so inconsistent to setup and unrealistic to pull off consistently in a real match because of countless potential factors, don't expect it to happen. If you were to get a combo, the best order for that is: QCF+B - Wait a moment after this one, QCF+K in the air, QCF+D. After they hit, you can do any combo afterwards.
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Exceed
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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108? | 108? | Unblockable | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Strategy
Basic Strategy
RA's gameplan
RA's just a great keepaway character. His minions and projectiles are his gameplan, and you can spam them from far away(You can have all of the 3 minions on the screen, and RA almost doesn't have any recovery frames if he calls them, so...). If a minion hits(Especially the bats), run to do a combo, you'll need it to do damage(You won't win only by chipping). His minions won't let your opponent jump, GCF, or things like that, because you're only thing that takes damage in the middle of that "bullet hell". Oh, but there are things that can break you minions barrage, like EQ with his Fat Guilty, Parries(From Ryo and Hugo), Teleports in general, and Super Projectiles(You can negate it, but it still will stop the minions). He doesn't have Supers, so he has to rely on his Unblockable Exceed(Make sure you hit with it), and the Unblockable Hell Hunter(Remember the patterns) to do real damage(You can make RA charge the Hell Ride while you're spamming minions too, which is nice). Good luck on your matches.
Some Combos (Without Max Mode)
Advanced Strategy
Resets with the cr.C
Resets are important, that's what is on almost every section. You can do reset combos with RA, and they aren't that hard to perform. It's just this:
[Jump Attack (If you want more damage)] cr.C, (After the reset)
- (You can empty jump/dash here if you're not on the corner) cr.B(2x), cr.D/d+D(Still dunno) - low starter with a knockdown after it;
- Jump, j.D/C(Are the same thing), any combo - High Starter into a (Maybe, depends of the combo) knockdown;
- Cancel the second hit into Exceed(If RA is with his back to the corner)/Hell Hunter - Reset into unblockable; You can make one of your minions hit your opponent after the reset, to help on the Hell Hunter charge.
Learn those above, you'll need.
Match-Ups
Athena
It doesn't look like it, but this matchup is actually in Athena's favor. There are three main reasons: First, Athena can always exploit the fact that RA cannot crouch with arrows. While he can still low block, it doesn't change the fact that he will always be hit by arrows on the ground and can only truly avoid them if he jumps. Even then, he's wide open during his summons so eating an arrow is not that difficult. Second, Athena's Exceed can effectively shut out RA from ever summoning bats at the risk of getting half his life bar deleted. Third, RA can's approach all that safely since Athena's Wave attack will anti-air him if he tries to jump in, on top of completely bypassing his minions. Her lion summon will be nullified by RA's zombie minion, making the lion significantly less useful, though. RA can also still force trades with smartly timed summons, and if all else fails he has his fireballs. Though with Athena still being quite effective even from fullscreen away, RA has practically zero chance of setting up a combo on Athena unless the planets align. The RA player will have to force Athena into opening herself up, either by forcing Athena to approach or approaching Athena himself. But unlike RA, Athena has at least a couple more useful normals, so RA still has to try and fight from a distance, or wait very patiently for poking opportunities.
Orochi Iori
Red Arremer has better aerial control than Orochi Iori does, thus he can still keep O. Iori out with bat summons and pig summons from jump in attempts. However, it only takes one poorly timed summon for O. Iori to barge right in, and if patient enough, O. Iori can jump/superjump across all of RA's minions and start pressuring him. And since RA only has his slide and Exceed to defend himself up close, shaking off O. Iori will be very difficult if he doesn't have Blowback readily available. RA's bat summons also don't pose that big of a threat when O. Iori can casually walk past them as they're being summoned due to his walking speed. If O. Iori fails to close the gap and RA manages to set up his minions, he can still retaliate by using his projectile super which will screen nuke all all minions and projectiles on the screen, and potentially even catch RA, forcing RA to restart. RA has to play very patiently to ensure that O. Iori doesn't trap him, and be selective about his summons. O. Iori only needs some patience to wait for the right window to rush in and barrage RA, but preferably conserve his meter in case he needs the emergency screen nuke.
Combos
SVC Chaos: SNK VS Capcom Quick Combo Notation Guide | |
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May change to numpad notation much later down the road. |
RA's combos basically don't exist, but he can do something with his claws, mouth, minions and feet. But if you're trying to play RA for combo potential and such, don't play RA. Combos are the lowest of RA's priorities in a match, especially when his buttons all suck.
Combo | Position | Damage | Stun | Difficulty | Notes |
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(Minions combo, j.X) cl.C/D(1), qcf P, (meaty Exceed (if bites and the throw hit) / qcb K or dp K, if in reach) | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | Probably his BnB. Nothing special about it, but you can use the two hits of the cl.D if on the corner. |
(Corner Far) qcf A, dp K / f~hcf P | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | Dunno how this combo works, it just was here. |
(Use both qcf K minions then jump over your opponent) (j.X - no crossup,) cl.C/D(2), (qcf B hits here), cl.C/D(2), (qcf D), cl.C/D(1), qcf P, (meaty) | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | Damaging combo, but very hard to land on a real match. Jumping over your opponent with the minions on the screen can be easy, but... This combo? Dunno, didn't do many RA matches. But it's possible anyway. |