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{{MOTW Character Intro|char=Tizoc |content=
{{MOTW Character Intro|char=Tizoc |content=
==Introduction==
==Introduction==
'''Tizoc''', also known as '''The Griffon''' or '''Griffon Mask''' in Japan, is a professional wrestler hailing from Mexico. He has many fans and is idolized by children as a "hero of justice". After a demoralizing loss to a mysterious man, he enters the Maximum Mayhem tournament to regain his fighting spirit.
'''Tizoc''', also known as '''The Griffon''' or '''Griffon Mask''' in Japan, is a professional wrestler who hails from Mexico. He has many fans and is idolized by children as a "hero of justice". After a demoralizing loss to a mysterious man, he enters the Maximum Mayhem tournament to regain his fighting spirit.


== Gameplay ==
== Gameplay ==
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'''Tizoc''' is the grappler of the game. His main gameplan is to poke and pressure the opponent with his long-range normals and to go in for a command grab once he's conditioned the opponent to block. He generally wants to maintain a mid-range distance from the opponent in neutral where he can play a footsies game by being able to reach the opponent with his pokes, but also remaining outside the range of the opponent's normals. At this range, he is able to keep the opponent out with his great air-to-air capabilities and also threaten them with a potential command grab.
'''Tizoc''' is the grappler of the game. His main gameplan is to poke and pressure the opponent with his long-range normals and to go in for a command grab once he has conditioned the opponent to block. He generally wants to maintain a mid-range distance from the opponent in neutral where he can play a footsies game by being in range to reach the opponent with his pokes, while remaining outside the range of the opponent's normals. At this range, he is able to keep the opponent out with his great air-to-air capabilities and also threaten an approach with a potential command grab.
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* '''Higher defense and guard crush gauge than average'''
* '''Higher defense and guard crush gauge than average'''
* '''Unblockable command grab super'''
* '''Unblockable command grab super'''
* '''Forward feint moves him forward and has upper-body invincibility'''
* '''Forward feint moves him forward and has upper body invincibility'''
|cons=
|cons=
* '''Struggles to build meter'''
* '''Struggles to build meter'''
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  |Cancel on Block=◯
  |Cancel on Block=◯
  |Guard Crush Value=8
  |Guard Crush Value=8
  |description=Very slow startup but is safe on block (and can be feint cancelled on block). Has slightly more range than his st.A but slightly less than his st.B. Can be used as a slow poke/counter-poke of sorts and works well as a far-ranged meaty.
  |description=Slow startup but is safe on hit and block (and can be feint cancelled on block). Has slightly more range than his st.A but slightly less than his st.B. Can be used as a slow poke/counter-poke of sorts and works well as a far-ranged meaty.
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  |Cancel on Block=X
  |Cancel on Block=X
  |Guard Crush Value=8
  |Guard Crush Value=8
  |description=A slow normal that typically isn't used. The startup is too slow to be used as a reliable anti-air. Usually you unintentionally get this move when you "whiff" his D throw.
  |description=A slow normal that typically isn't used. The startup is too slow to be used as a reliable anti-air. Usually you get this move unintentionally when you "whiff" his D throw.
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  |Cancel on Block=
  |Cancel on Block=
  |Guard Crush Value=5
  |Guard Crush Value=5
  |description=One of his best and most versatile normals. Has great range and works well as a forward jump or hop normal. Works great as an air-to-air off of a neutral or backward jump and can be used to keep the opponent from jumping in. A staple in his air-to-air game.
  |description=One of Tizoc's best and most versatile normals. Has great range and works well as a forward jump or hop normal. Works great as an air-to-air off of a neutral or backwards jump and can be used to keep the opponent from jumping in and approaching from the air. A staple in his air-to-air game.
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  |Cancel on Block=
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  |Guard Crush Value=
  |Guard Crush Value=
  |description=Follow up with 33C or 11C for Grif-Fall.  
  |description=Grif-Fall (follow-up move): 33C or 11C while lifting the opponent up into the air.  


His D throw is generally used over this throw, unless you need the 2 extra points of damage with the follow-up to kill.
His D throw is generally used over this throw, unless you need the 2 extra points of damage with the follow-up to kill.
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  |Cancel on Block=
  |Cancel on Block=
  |Guard Crush Value=
  |Guard Crush Value=
  |description=Tizoc's main normal throw to use. It can give better positional advantage with corner carry and gives better okizeme than his C throw. If the throw "whiffs" a cl.D or far st.D will come out and can potentially anti-air an opponent who tries to jump.
  |description=Tizoc's main normal throw to use. Does decent damage. It can give better positional advantage with corner carry and gives better okizeme than his C throw. If the throw "whiffs" a cl.D or far st.D will come out and can potentially anti-air an opponent who tries to jump.
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Revision as of 20:27, 9 November 2021

Introduction

Tizoc, also known as The Griffon or Griffon Mask in Japan, is a professional wrestler who hails from Mexico. He has many fans and is idolized by children as a "hero of justice". After a demoralizing loss to a mysterious man, he enters the Maximum Mayhem tournament to regain his fighting spirit.

Gameplay

Tizoc is the grappler of the game. His main gameplan is to poke and pressure the opponent with his long-range normals and to go in for a command grab once he has conditioned the opponent to block. He generally wants to maintain a mid-range distance from the opponent in neutral where he can play a footsies game by being in range to reach the opponent with his pokes, while remaining outside the range of the opponent's normals. At this range, he is able to keep the opponent out with his great air-to-air capabilities and also threaten an approach with a potential command grab.

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Good range and damage on normals
  • Good neutral and air-to-air game
  • Higher defense and guard crush gauge than average
  • Unblockable command grab super
  • Forward feint moves him forward and has upper body invincibility
  • Struggles to build meter
  • Break moves aren't too useful
  • Lack of good reversals aside from Big Fall Griffon (720 super)
  • Limited combos that are mostly reliant on having P-Power
  • Command grabs are unreliable for punishing due to the throw bug
MOTW Tizoc Art.png

Character Colors

Griffoncolors.JPG

Move List

Esoterics

Frame Data Source: https://w.atwiki.jp/garoumow/pages/29.html

Legend:

  • Hit Box: Area that will hit the opponent
  • Hurt Box: Area where you can get hit. A move is invincible if the Hurt Box is absent.
  • Throw Box/Range: Active throw frames and range. Your opponent will be thrown in this field if not in block or hit stun.
  • Projectile Box: Hit box on a projectile attack.
  • Guard/Counter Box: The Guard Box or Counter Box. This appears when blocking or using a counter move.
  • Push Box: Has no bearing on hurt/hit boxes. Just allows characters to not pass through each other.
  • Command = the input for the attack.
  • Start Up = How many start up frames a move/attack has.
  • Hit = When the attack hits.
  • Block = When the attack is blocked.
  • + signifies how many advantage frames the attacker has.
  • - signifies how many disadvantage frames the attacker has.
  • KD means the attack will knock the opponent down.

Close Standing Normals

St. Kof.lp.png
Garou Tizoc cl.A.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 Mid 4 3 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+3 +3 4

Tizoc's fastest close standing normal with decent frame advantage on hit and block.

St. Kof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc cl.B.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 Mid 7 5 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
0 0 4

Slower than cl.A, no real reason to use it in close range.

St. Kof.sp.png
Garou Tizoc cl.C.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
14 Mid 14 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+1 +1 X 8

Same as his far st.C. The slow startup makes it relatively impractical to be used in close range.

St. Kof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc cl.D.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
14 Mid 6 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+4 +4 X X 8

A highly damaging normal that has decently fast startup and good frame advantage compared to his other normals. Good as a meaty.

Far Standing Normals

Far Kof.lp.png
Garou Tizoc s.A.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
7 Mid 4 3 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+1 +1 4

One of Tizoc's main pokes and his fastest one alongside cr.A. Has good range and the hitbox hits fairly high due to Tizoc's tall body.

Far Kof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc s.B.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
7 Mid 7 5 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
0 0 4

Tizoc's farthest reaching poke with great range. This move has slower startup than his st.A so it is ideally used when you are outside of his st.A range.

Far Kof.sp.png
Garou Tizoc s.C.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
14 Mid 14 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+1 +1 X 8

Slow startup but is safe on hit and block (and can be feint cancelled on block). Has slightly more range than his st.A but slightly less than his st.B. Can be used as a slow poke/counter-poke of sorts and works well as a far-ranged meaty.

Far Kof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc s.D.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
14 Mid 12 6 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
-9 -9 X X 8

A slow normal that typically isn't used. The startup is too slow to be used as a reliable anti-air. Usually you get this move unintentionally when you "whiff" his D throw.

Crouching Normals

Cr. Kof.lp.png
Garou Tizoc cr.A.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 Mid 4 3 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
0 0 4

Similar in function to his st.A but has a tiny bit more range and has him hit at a slightly lower profile.

Cr. Kof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc cr.B.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 Low 7 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+2 +2 X X 4

Similar range to his cr.A but has slower startup. His main poke that hits low.

Cr. Kof.sp.png
Garou Tizoc cr.C.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
10 Mid 11 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
-5 -5 X X 5

Serviceable as an anti-air if well spaced. The move hits at an approximate 45 degree angle, so it works best as an anti-air when the opponent is jumping in from farther away, otherwise it may be possible for them to jump right above Tizoc from up close. Should not be heavily relied on as an anti-air as it is slow and can be air just defended.

Cr. Kof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc cr.D.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
10 Low 12 4 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
knockdown -10 X X 5

Slow and unsafe sweep. Like a lot of sweeps in the game, it's not something you want to use much. Use cr.B instead if you want a normal that hits low and is actually safe on block.

Jumping Normals

Jump Kof.lp.png
Garou Tizoc j.A.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 High 7 6 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - 4

Tizoc's fastest jump normal with a high hitbox relative to his body. Useful as a fast air-to-air in closer range when the opponent may already be jumping in from above Tizoc. Can be comboed into Icarus Crash.

Jump Kof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc j.B.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
6 High 9 6 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - 4

Has a similar range to his j.D with 1f longer startup and is active for 1f less, while doing less damage. Generally not used too much aside from instances where you would want less pushback or would want to combo into Icarus Crash.

Jump Kof.sp.png
Garou Tizoc j.C.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
10 High 11 9 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - 5

A good forward jump and hop normal with a hitbox extending below Tizoc's torso, more suited as a closer jump-in than his j.D. Useful as an air-to-air if the opponent tries to jump after your pokes to escape your command grabs.

Jump Kof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc j.D.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
10 High 8 7 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - 5

One of Tizoc's best and most versatile normals. Has great range and works well as a forward jump or hop normal. Works great as an air-to-air off of a neutral or backwards jump and can be used to keep the opponent from jumping in and approaching from the air. A staple in his air-to-air game.

Command Normals

St. Kof.lp.pngKof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc AB.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
10 Overhead 22 6 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+1 +7 X X 6

13f of lower body invincibility after landing.

Can be used as a meaty to potentially score a counter hit. Otherwise not too useful as an overhead due to its slow startup.

Cr. Kof.lp.pngKof.lk.png
Garou Tizoc 2AB-1.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
13 Mid 13 1,2 - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
+1 +1 X X 3,3

1~5f of upper body invincibility.

Good as a poke/counter-poke against other characters' st.A and higher hitting normals. The move hits twice, which makes it useful for potentially beating guard cancels against opponents who try to do so against the first hit.

Gridro Super Kick (T.O.P Attack)
Kof.sp.pngKof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc CD.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
21 (in T.O.P. mode) Mid 20 - - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
knockdown -18 X X 30

Mainly used as a guard cancel against fireballs or to go over grounded fireballs like Rock's Reppuken or Terry's Power Wave. Depending on the spacing, the move can be hard to punish for some characters due to its pushback on block, but it shouldn't be thrown out in neutral too much as it has slow startup and is easy to jump over.

Throws

Griffon Tower
Close B.png/F.png+Kof.sp.png
Garou Tizoc Grab.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
16(+8) - 1 - - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - - -

Grif-Fall (follow-up move): 33C or 11C while lifting the opponent up into the air.

His D throw is generally used over this throw, unless you need the 2 extra points of damage with the follow-up to kill.

Griffon Hug
Close B.png/F.png+Kof.sk.png
Garou Tizoc Grab.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
22 - 1 - - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - - -

Tizoc's main normal throw to use. Does decent damage. It can give better positional advantage with corner carry and gives better okizeme than his C throw. If the throw "whiffs" a cl.D or far st.D will come out and can potentially anti-air an opponent who tries to jump.

Feints

F.png+Kof.lp.png+Kof.sp.png
Forward Feint
Garou Tizoc ForwardTaunt-1.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
- - - - - 13
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - - -

Moves Tizoc forward slightly and gives him upper body invincibility. Can be used to go through various higher hitting normals and specials, and as an anti-air against various jump or hop normals. Typically used in conjunction with Justice Hurricane, Big Fall Griffon, or his D throw as a follow-up to "punish" whiffed moves that are avoided with its upper body invincibility.

This is the feint you want to feint cancel with. Due to it moving Tizoc slightly forward, it can be used after one of his pokes (that can be feint cancelled) in order to move him closer in range of a command grab.

D.png+Kof.lp.png+Kof.sp.png
Down Feint
Garou Tizoc DownTaunt.jpg
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Total
- - - - - -
Hit Adv Block Adv Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Guard Crush Value
- - - - -

DAAH! Only used as a taunt.

Special Moves

Command Move Weak Damage Strong Damage
Rdp.png + Punch.gif Poseidon Wave 19 22
Qcb.png + Kick.gif Olympus Over 18 20
in air Qcf.png + Snka.gif Icarus Crash 22 NA
Hcf.png + Snkb.gif Hercules Throw 8 NA
Dp.png + Punch.gif Active Tupon 23 23
360.png + Punch.gif Justice Hurricane 26 32
Qcf.png, Qcf.png + Kick.gif Daedalus Attack 27 47
360.png360.png + Punch.gif Big Fall Griffon 40 57

Super Moves

Attributes

When a move can be canceled, it can either be canceled into a special/super/feint. Some moves that can't be canceled when they hit can be canceled when the opponent blocks while some moves that can be Special/Super canceled cannot be Feint Canceled.

Command Cancel on Hit Cancel on Block Feint Cancel
Far Snka.gif O O O
Far Snkb.gif O O O
Far Snkc.gif X O O (on block)
Far Snkd.gif X X X
Close Snka.gif O O O
Close Snkb.gif O O O
Close Snkc.gif X X X
Close Snkd.gif X X X
D.png Snka.gif O O O
D.png Snkb.gif X X X
D.png Snkc.gif X X X
D.png Snkd.gif X X X
jump Snka.gif O O NA
jump Snkb.gif O O NA
jump Snkc.gif O O NA
jump Snkd.gif O O NA
hop Snka.gif X X X
hop Snkb.gif X X X
hop Snkc.gif X X X
hop Snkd.gif X X X
Snka.gif + Snkb.gif X X X
D.png + Snka.gif + Snkb.gif X X X
F.png + Snkc.gif, Df.png, Df.png + Snkc.gif X X X

Frame Data

Legend :
Command = the input for the attack.
Start Up = How many start up frames an attack has.
Hit = When the attack hits.
Block = When the attack is blocked.
+ signifies how many advantage frames the attacker has.
- signifies how many disadvantage frames the attacker has.
KD means the attack will knock the opponent down.

Command Start Up Hit Guard
Close Snka.gif 4 +3 +3
Close Snkb.gif 7 0 0
Close Snkc.gif 14 +1 +1
Close Snkd.gif 6 +4 +4
Far Snka.gif 4 +1 +1
Far Snkb.gif 7 0 0
Far Snkc.gif 14 +1 +1
Far Snkd.gif 12 -9 -9
D.png Snka.gif 4 0 0
D.png Snkb.gif 7 +2 +2
D.png Snkc.gif 11 -5 -5
D.png Snkd.gif 12 KD -10
Snka.gif + Snkb.gif 13 +1 +1
D.png + Snka.gif + Snkb.gif 20 +1 +7
360.png + Punch.gif 3 KD
Qcb.png + Snkb.gif 29 KD -11
Qcb.png + Snkd.gif 56 KD -9
Rdp.png + Snka.gif 18 KD -9
Rdp.png + Snkc.gif 37 KD -8
Dp.png + Snka.gif 28 KD
Dp.png + Snkc.gif 41 KD
Hcf.png + Snkb.gif 13 KD
air Qcf.png + Snka.gif 4 +10
Snkc.gifSnkd.gif 20 KD -18
360.png, 360.png + Punch.gif 0 KD
Qcf.png, Qcf.png + Snkb.gif 14 KD -27
Qcf.png, Qcf.png + Snkd.gif 13 KD -27

Data from Howard's Arena

Attack Notes

  • His forward feint has lower body invulnerability.

Combos

Combo tutorial here.

Anywhere

  • 41236B-->421A
  • Do the 421A immediatley after the throw
  • 41236B- jump 236A in the air
  • This combo is a bit harder, but during the HCF+B, hold UF and Tizoc will jump, then time the QCF+A while in the air. This combo is more damading than the one above.
  • HCF+B-->QCFx2+B
  • You need to time the super after the throw to get at least 2 hits in OR all 3 hits.
  • Jumping D-->Crouching B
  • Jumping D-->QCF+Ainto QCF+D for his super

Corner only

  • B, D, DB+P-->Crouching D
  • This combo sort of feels like a bug or something. This combo won't work if the P. Wave counter hits a jumping opponent.
  • Corner: Jumping D-->Standing D

T.O.P. Notes

Tizoc's TOP move is a drop kick with a fair amount of priority. It is not easily punishable by most moves and has decent recovery.

Basic Strategy

Advanced Tactics

Here are some VERY important notes to help you get in some grabs.

  • Tizoc's Forward+AC feint has upper invincibility frames and moves him forward. This is ESPECIALLY useful when attempting to get in close for a grab.
  • Tizoc's taunt has lower invincibility frames which might help in getting close as well for grab.
  • You can input a 412369 motion instead of a full 360 and get the J. Hurricane. Furthermore if you jump and do 2 270s in a row (270, then another 270) you can get his Super THrow move to come out as well.
  • If he techs a throw whe he has his back to the corner, he can do his 720 as soon as the tech animation ends => unblockable, cannot jump out or backdash

Matchup Notes

To come.

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