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{{#invoke:Tier List|drawTierList
|RT
|S;Vlad,Edge
|A;Aegis,Dauntless,Crow
|B;Talos,Chel
|F;Gun
}}
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<div class="header" style="font-size: 1.0em; text-align:center">Combo Notation Guide</div>
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<b>,</b> = link into the following move<br>
<b>xx</b> = cancel into the following move<br>
<b>→</b> = chain/target combo<br>
<b>cl.</b> = close<br>
<b>st./far.</b> = far<br>
<b>cr.</b> = crouching<br>
<b>nj.</b> = neutral jumping<br>
<b>j.</b> = directional jump<br>
<b>sX.Y</b> = special X where Y is the variant<br>
<b>OD</b> = Overdrive/Super<br>
<b>[x]</b> = hold input<br>
<b>(xyz)*N</b> = sequence xyz is repeatable<br>
<b>(x)</b> = x move is optional<br>
<b>KA"X"</b> = kinetic Advance cancel in X direction<br>
<b>KD</b> = kinetic Deflect<br>
<b>fly.</b> = move done out of flying<br>
{{clear}}
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===BnBs===
====0 bar====
<tabber>Standard =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC
| Oneliner  = Learn this
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    = 209
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash), delay {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}} xx {{clr|3|s2.1}}
| content    = This is Edge's staple combo route, and his reward for playing low/throw. The dash being required depends on how close to the corner you are, sometimes you can get in range for {{clr|5|cl.M}} from just walking.<br> Also frequently started with raw {{clr|5|cl.M}} or <code> (any jump normal), {{clr|5|cl.M}}...</code> in which case, its as easy as omitting the crouch light from the beginning.
}}
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Far TC
| Oneliner  = And this
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = {{clr|2|cl.L}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|2|L}}
| content    = When you have to start with stand jab, or if you are too far away to get close medium, this is the route. You can also choose to end with {{clr|6|s1.1}} or {{clr|6|s1.2}}, giving up a knockdown for sword charge.
}}
|-| 111 =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC s1.1 ender
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash), delay st.H xx {{clr|6|s1.1}}
| content    = Pretty much the same as the regular route through close TC, except ending with {{clr|6|s1.1}}. You trade some damage for a sword charge, and a potential route to OD in the corner
}}
|-| 312 =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC s1.3
| Oneliner  = In case you accidentally pick 312
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.3}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx s3.2 (xx OD)
| content    = This is only worth doing if you are playing 312 specifically, s3.1 actually out damages s3.2 BnBs.
}}
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC s1.3 (optimisation)
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ({{clr|2|cr.L}}/j.H), {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.3}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx s3.2 (xx OD)
| content    = If you aren't starting with {{clr|5|cl.M}}/H, then you will hit the scaling cap quick enough for the {{clr|2|cr.L}} after {{clr|6|s1.3}} to be worth it.
}}
</tabber>
<br>
====1 bar====
<tabber>211 =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC loop
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.2}} xx KA6 {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash), delay {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}} xx {{clr|3|s2.1}}
| content    = By spending a bar after <code>{{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.2}}</code> we can loop back into our BnB route.
}}
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Far TC → Close TC
| Oneliner  = This is why we play 211
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ... {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.2}} xx KA6, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash), delay {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}} xx {{clr|3|s2.1}}
| content    = This route lets us convert any route through {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} to big damage, if you are spending bar on combos, this is 90% of the time the route we go through.
}}
|-| 121 =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Gucci route
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ... {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|3|s2.2}} xx KA6, {{clr|2|st.L}} xx {{clr|6|s1.1}} (1 hit), {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash) {{clr|3|s2.2}}
| content    = This route is the only (reliable) way to get to a wallbounce from far TC if you are playing {{clr|6|s1.1}}. You do have to give up your only anti air to play 2.2, but at least the route looks cool. <br>If you are too close to the corner, or you have no sword charges to spend on {{clr|3|s2.2}}, then sweep is the next best ender.
}}
</tabber>
<br>
====Throw====
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Lv3 s2
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = throw xx KA6, {{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}, {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}
| content    = Edge's throw is normally only worth spending bar on if you have 3 sword charges. <br>In the corner, you will get a side switch and have to end with sweep instead. (It's not advised to spend the bar on throw in this case.)
}}
<br>
====Overheads====
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Run Overhead
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = {{clr|8|s3.1+M}} xx KA6, {{clr|2|cl.L}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}}...
| content    = Transposes into your preferred far TC BnB. <br>Notably the starter that you can justify spending 2 bars on
}}
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = 6M
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = 6M xx {{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}, {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}
| content    = Rarely seen compared to run overhead, but doesn't need a bar to convert to good damage.
}}
<br>
====Overdrive====
<tabber>Standard =
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = After s3.1 wallbounce
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Medium
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|4|H}}, (dash)(delay) cl/st.H xx OD, {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|2|L}}
| content    = This is probably the most common route to combo into OD. <br>Can sometimes prove tricky, as the opponent needs to be at a low height for the OD to connect, if you are having trouble you can omit the cl/st.H and just go straight to OD.
}}
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Lv3 s2.1 (midscreen)
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}→{{clr|3|s2.1}}, OD, {{clr|8|s3.1}}+{{clr|2|L}}
| content    = This route makes an anti-air Edge lands extremely rewarding, providing he has the resources to pay.<br>The wallbounce might look like it sends the opponent very high, but you can normally OD early, even whille they are still of screen. <br>Closer to the corner, you have to delay the OD as to not go underneath, and in the corner the route doesn't work at all.
}}
</tabber>
<br>
===Advanced===
====2 bar====
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Close TC → Far TC → Wallbounce
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx KA6, {{clr|2|cl.L}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}}...
| content    = The second bar is spent by going through whatever [[#1 bar| 1 bar far TC]] route your loadout can do.<br> This route is only ever used when you are trying to kill for game, it gives you such little damage, but not bad to learn in case of emergency.
}}
<br>
====Optimisations====
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Corner s1.2 KA
| Oneliner  =
| Difficulty = Very Easy
| Damage    =
| Meter      =
| Anchor    =
| Youtube    =
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.2}} xx KA6, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}}...
| content    = pushback becomes a none factor in the corner, so you can always {{clr|2|cr.L}} after your {{clr|6|s1.2}} KA extensions
}}
<br>
====Vlad only====
{{TheoryBox
{{TheoryBox
| Title      = Max range s1.2 route
| Title      =  
| Oneliner  =  
| Oneliner  =  
| Difficulty = Hard
| Difficulty =  
| Damage    =  
| Damage    =  
| Meter      =  
| Meter      =  
| Anchor    =  
| Anchor    =  
| Youtube    =  
| Youtube    =  
| Recipe    = ...{{clr|2|cl.L}}, {{clr|2|cl.L}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|st.M}}→{{clr|4|H}} xx {{clr|6|s1.2}} xx KA9, {{clr|5|j.M}}, {{clr|2|cr.L}}, {{clr|5|cl.M}} xx {{clr|4|cl.H}}→{{clr|4|H}}...
| Recipe    =  
| content    = Vlad lets you get three lights while still being able to link mediums, being further makes your {{clr|6|s1.2}} KA more advantageous which lets us get a jump in.<br>Because s1.2 has to be off cooldown, this is only used in the 2 bar route, which makes it extremely niche.
| content    =  
}}
}}
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