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{{SVC Character Subnav|name=Vega}} | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="float:right; margin-left: 10px;" | {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; margin-left: 10px;" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! align="center" colspan="2" | バルログ, Balrog | ! align="center" colspan="2" | バルログ, Balrog (aka Claw) | ||
|- | |- | ||
! align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:Vegasvc.gif|"Handsome, tough, and cruel... That is me to a tee! Keh keh keh."|center]] | ! align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:Vegasvc.gif|"Handsome, tough, and cruel... That is me to a tee! Keh keh keh."|center]] | ||
|- | |||
| '''Category''' || Normal | |||
|- | |||
| '''Playstyle''' || Hit-and-run, footsies | |||
|- | |- | ||
| '''Difficulty''' || Difficult | | '''Difficulty''' || Difficult | ||
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| '''Crouching Hitbox''' || Short | | '''Crouching Hitbox''' || Short | ||
|- | |||
| '''Defense Modifier''' || 239 | |||
|- | |||
| '''Wall Jump''' || Yes | |||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{{ ProConTable | {{ ProConTable | ||
| pros= | | pros= | ||
* Amazing mobility and speed | * '''Amazing mobility and speed:''' Fast walking speed, fast and large jump arcs, wall jumps, good dashes, a slide kick, wall leap special moves that let him fly around the screen, and backslashes to flip backwards to distance himself further from the opponent, Vega is far from easy to pin down with all the options available to him. | ||
* '''Annoying pokes:''' Players who aren't in-the-know about the matchup will find dealing with his pokes frustrating as they come out fast, are hard to react to, and give Vega free pressure, especially if he cancels said pokes into a backslash or other special moves. | |||
* '''Decent anti-airs:''' Vega's st.D and cr.C, while not amazing, come out quick and have decent range to give Vega a chance at stopping jump-ins and hold his ground. | |||
* '''Can no longer lose either his mask or claw:''' Whether out of rushed development or an effort to balance out Vega, Vega can no longer be debuffed from blocking or taking too many hits. At all times, Vega retains both his claw and mask so he never suffers from reduced range, damage, or defense. Now, there's zero penalty for playing defensively with him. | |||
* Annoying to | * '''Unique hit-and-run playstyle:''' Other characters like Mai can play hit-and-run just fine, but Vega's unique movelist gives him the kind of hit-and-run gameplay that allows him to gain presence from fullscreen and force opponents to second guess their choices or face being called out by Vega. | ||
* Can no longer lose either his mask or claw | * '''Forces (most) MUs to play patiently:''' Approaching Vega like any other matchup will probably result in that character getting blownup by Vega, especially if they can't keep him pinned down. You need to observe how Vega plays, as brute forcing in generally means you're playing his game. That said, Vega has few good matchups, and depending on the MU, can be easy to call out or get washed from the get-go. | ||
* | * '''Rare matchup:''' Very few players play Vega, making it more likely you'll stand a chance in matches. Even if the opponent knows the matchup, they may still struggle with knowing every knowledge check against Vega. | ||
* | |||
| cons= | | cons= | ||
* | * '''Pokes are annoying but in reality, pretty bad:''' Almost zero of Vega's buttons are plus on hit or block, only some buttons are cancellable, the hitboxes on most of them are actually pretty small or stubby, questionable jump buttons, damage isn't too impressive, and overall pressing any button with Vega is actually a risk depending on the situation. | ||
* | * '''Hardly any combos to work with, and none of them are good:''' Good luck getting a combo with Vega, especially if you're playing the NeoGeo port due to the charge input bug. All of his combos can't be hit-confirmed, are situational, do iffy damage, etc. | ||
* | * '''Arguably worst Exceed in the game:''' Vega's Exceed range is really stubby and isn't fast enough to be a reactionary tool in neutral either, unless you can somehow take advantage of his i-frames. Using it at all is a risk as chances are, you aren't comboing into it. Arguably one of the worst Exceeds in the game, though it still has its use as a punish tool, especially when buffered with dash... However, that is its only real use, anyways. | ||
* Wall leaps can be easily anti-aired | * '''Wall leaps can be easily anti-aired:''' Vega's hurtboxes on wall jumps are pretty big, and using them in neutral gives your opponent more than enough time to react to them and anti-air Vega without proper setups or situations where the opponent can't react to the initial start of it. Or worst case scenario, they can be front stepped. | ||
* '''Nearly everything is super unsafe and makes for free punishes:''' If anything Vega does is blocked, there's a pretty strong chance you can punish him for it. He's too risky of a character for SVC where almost everything he does is a commitment. | |||
* | * '''Hard to master:''' Vega's packing a steep learning curve, his buttons and movement are easy to learn but knowing how to use his tools effectively without getting called out is a slow process. | ||
* | * '''Is a charge character in a game that is anti-charge characters:''' Charge characters are forced to use BC input for front step, which is a steep cost of meter to give up for a punish, unless they buffer super with dash input. Even with the benefit of 30F charge times, they're too committal in a game full of movement and punishes. In some MUs, having time to charge at all is a problem. Not to mention, the NeoGeo port's charge input bug limiting their options. | ||
* Is a charge character in a game that is anti-charge characters | |||
}} | }} | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=4 | ||
|Active= | |Active=4 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=6 | ||
|Total= | |Total=14 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=+2 | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=+0 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* A fast attack with his claw. Good as a starter for light attack combos, can be canceled, but it whiffs against low crouching chars. | |description=* A fast attack with his claw. Good as a starter for light attack combos, can be canceled, but it whiffs against low crouching chars. | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=5 | ||
|Active= | |Active=6 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=4 | ||
|Total= | |Total=15 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=+2 | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=+0 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* A fast attack with Claw's knee. It hits low crouching chars, can be comboed after a | |description=* A fast attack with Claw's knee. It hits low crouching chars, can be comboed after a cl.A - albeit only at point blank range, and you can cancel it. It's good for tick throws too. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=10 | ||
|Active= | |Active=5 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=16 | ||
|Total= | |Total=31 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=+4 | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=+2 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* His most damaging cancelable move, but it's slow and whiffs on low crouching chars, so use this only on punish situations. | |description=* His most damaging cancelable move, but it's slow and whiffs on low crouching chars, so use this only on punish situations. | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup='''cl.D= 7''' ; '''st.D= 9''' | ||
|Active= | |Active='''cl.D= 8''' ; '''st.D= 9''' | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery='''cl.D= 14''' ; '''st.D= 15''' | ||
|Total= | |Total='''cl.D= 29''' ; '''st.D= 33''' | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv='''cl.D= -2''' ; '''st.D= -4''' | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv='''cl.D= -4''' ; '''st.D= -6''' | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* A great anti-air. The range is nice, the priority is nice, and the damage is simple. Use it only as an anti-air. | |description=* A great anti-air. The range is nice, the priority is nice, and the damage is simple. Use it only as an anti-air. | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=7 | |Startup=7 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=14 | |Startup=14 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=5 | |Startup=5 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=6 | |Startup=6 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=6 | |Startup=6 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup=6 | |Startup=6 | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Overhead | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=5 | ||
|Active= | |Active=10 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery= | ||
|Total= | |Total= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Overhead | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=6 | ||
|Active= | |Active=11 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery= | ||
|Total= | |Total= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Overhead | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=5 | ||
|Active= | |Active=16 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery= | ||
|Total= | |Total= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Overhead | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=8 | ||
|Active= | |Active=10 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery= | ||
|Total= | |Total= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |||
|Guard=Overhead | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |||
|Stun= | |||
|Meter= | |||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=8 | ||
|Active= | |Active='''nj= 8''' ; '''dj= 7''' | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery= | ||
|Total= | |Total= | ||
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|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg= | ||
|Guard= | |Guard=Overhead | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush= | ||
|Stun= | |Stun= | ||
|Meter= | |Meter= | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=20 | ||
|Active= | |Active=4 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=17 | ||
|Total= | |Total=41 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=-1 | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=-3 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* An overhead kick. It's slow, so you cannot combo after this. It's unsafe if blocked too, watch out when you use. | |description=* An overhead kick. It's slow, so you cannot combo after this. It's unsafe if blocked too, watch out when you use. | ||
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|Meter= | |Meter= | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=14 | ||
|Active= | |Active=5 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=15 | ||
|Total= | |Total=34 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=SKD | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=-2 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* This move has a nice reach, can be used as an anti-air, but whiffs on low crouching chars and Claw can't combo after it, so watch out in this move too. | |description=* This move has a nice reach, can be used as an anti-air, but whiffs on low crouching chars and Claw can't combo after it, so watch out in this move too. | ||
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|Damage= | |Damage= | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg= | ||
|Guard= | |Guard=Low | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush= | ||
|Stun= | |Stun= | ||
|Meter= | |Meter= | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel= | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=9 | ||
|Active= | |Active=14 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=6 | ||
|Total= | |Total=29 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=SKD | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=-2 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* This is Claw's cr.HK from the Capcom games. Can be used as a low poke too. It can't combo too. Unsafe if blocked. | |description=* This is Claw's cr.HK from the Capcom games. Can be used as a low poke too. It can't combo too. Unsafe if blocked. | ||
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|Counter Dmg=24 | |Counter Dmg=24 | ||
|Guard=Throw | |Guard=Throw | ||
|G. Crush=0 | |||
|Stun=0 | |||
|Meter=0 | |||
|Cancel=X | |||
|Startup= | |||
|Active= | |||
|Recovery= | |||
|Total= | |||
|Hit Adv= | |||
|Block Adv= | |||
|Invulnerability= | |||
|description=* | |||
}} | |||
}} | |||
===== <span class="invisible-header"></span> ===== | |||
<font style="visibility:hidden" size="0"></font> | |||
{{MoveData | |||
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|subtitle={{Icon-SNK|C}}{{Icon-SNK|D}} on Block | |||
|caption= | |||
|name=Guard Cancel Blowback | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-SVC | |||
|Damage=0 | |||
|Counter Dmg=0 | |||
|Guard=Mid | |||
|G. Crush=0 | |G. Crush=0 | ||
|Stun=0 | |Stun=0 | ||
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|Block Adv= | |Block Adv= | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability= | ||
|description=* One of Claw's best moves. Can be used as an anti-air too, it knocks down if hits and safe on block. Oh, and while Claw is doing this move, you'll have time to charge, leading to some interesting setups. You can charge this move by holding backwards too, and when you finished charging, press db, f+K and the move will come out. | |description=* '''Vega - thankfully - does not suffer from the charge input bug for this move specifically. You can go directly to downback and regardless of whether you pressed back or down first, Vega can perform this move after he finishes charging. You will always have access to it.''' | ||
* One of Claw's best moves. Can be used as an anti-air too, it knocks down if hits and safe on block. Oh, and while Claw is doing this move, you'll have time to charge, leading to some interesting setups. You can charge this move by holding backwards too, and when you finished charging, press db, f+K and the move will come out. | |||
}} | }} | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage=0 | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg=0 | ||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush=0 | ||
|Stun= | |Stun=0 | ||
|Meter= | |Meter=0 | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel=X | ||
|Startup= | |Startup= | ||
|Active= | |Active= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage='''A= 36x2''' ; '''C= 32x4''' | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg='''A= 40''' ; '''C= 36''' | ||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush='''A= 2x2''' ; '''C= 2x4''' | ||
|Stun= | |Stun=0 | ||
|Meter= | |Meter=0 | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel=X | ||
|Startup= | |Startup= | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage='''A= 34x2''' ; '''C= 24x3''' | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg='''A= 34''' ; '''C= 24''' | ||
|Guard= | |Guard=Throw | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush=0 | ||
|Stun= | |Stun=0 | ||
|Meter= | |Meter=0 | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel=X | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage='''B= 34x6''' ; '''D= 32x9''' | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg='''B= 38''' ; '''D= 36''' | ||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush='''B= 2x6''' ; '''D= 2x9''' | ||
|Stun= | |Stun=0 | ||
|Meter= | |Meter=0 | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel=X | ||
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{{AttackData-SVC | {{AttackData-SVC | ||
|Damage= | |Damage=0+132 | ||
|Counter Dmg= | |Counter Dmg=0+132 | ||
|Guard=Mid | |Guard=Mid | ||
|G. Crush= | |G. Crush=0 | ||
|Stun= | |Stun=0 | ||
|Meter= | |Meter=0 | ||
|Cancel= | |Cancel=X | ||
|Startup= | |Startup=4+7 | ||
|Active= | |Active=11 | ||
|Recovery= | |Recovery=26 | ||
|Total= | |Total=48 | ||
|Hit Adv= | |Hit Adv=HKD | ||
|Block Adv= | |Block Adv=-19 | ||
|Invulnerability= | |Invulnerability=1F-11F (Full body invul during startup), 5F-22F (Upper body invul ending just below waist) | ||
|description=* One of the worst Exceeds in | |description=* Vega has upper body invincibility during the startup and active frames of the Exceed. | ||
* One of the worst Exceeds in the game, at least outside of punish scenarios. Hard to combo, stubby range (but not awful like you might be led to believe), can be blocked with ease, and the damage isn't as high as other Exceeds. | |||
* Use it for punishes or if you know you can combo off of cl.C with it. It can also hit airborne opponents if they're closer to the grounde. | |||
* In neutral this Exceed sucks since Vega has to not only charge it, but also can't combo into it outside of cl.C or juggles (the latter of which is incredibly rare for him) but combine it with Front Step or a forward dash buffer and it becomes a lot easier to land. | |||
* It's best to learn to buffer it to get the most out of this Exceed and with time, you can land it consistently by doing this. If anything, it's the only meaningful use of Vega's Exceed, and the startup is still on the slower end of things. | |||
}} | }} | ||
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'''''Claw's Gameplan''''' | '''''Claw's Gameplan''''' | ||
Claw is a charge character who likes to travel around the screen, you already know that. And he likes to be safe everytime too, with his Wall Leap crossups, with his Backslashes, and with his safe anti-air Special move. Claw, as you know, | Claw is a charge character who likes to travel around the screen, you already know that. And he likes to be safe everytime too, with his Wall Leap crossups, with his Backslashes, and with his safe anti-air Special move. Claw, as you know, is a hit & run character, and this can make the match easier to win against some characters. His pokes are very nice too, you should use them. You have the Backslashes at your dispose, and you can even punish projectiles when you need. So travel around the screen, be safe, punish the opponent when you need, and plan your game everytime(If you're in the defense, think what you can do to help yourself, and if you're in the offense, think what you can do against the opponent, and now it's up to you. Good luck in your matches). | ||
'''Other Notes:''' | |||
* When entering crouch, Vega's crouching animation will play a brief shine effect on his claw from the base to its tip. When the shine reaches the tip of his claw, that's a visual indicator that Vega's finished charging his special moves and can perform them. This is assuming you weren't of course charging prior, such as walking backwards or jumping, in which case the shine effect wouldn't be as important. Minor detail, but worth noting, much like how Leona shakes her head when she finishes charging while crouching in the KOF series. | |||
* Despite being a charge character, and of course, being affected by the charge motion bug as a result, Vega can do a down charge, walk forwards or backwards, and still do his down-up charge motion specials. As far as it's understood this applies to no one else. Vega can walk for a very long while despite letting go of down. | |||
===Advanced Strategy=== | ===Advanced Strategy=== | ||
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|(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~f C || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || A kind of basic, but damaging combo. If you want to punish, you can use the cl.C(Do the charge, press the C button while standing, and then do the rest of the command). | |(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~f C || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || A kind of basic, but damaging combo. If you want to punish, you can use the cl.C(Do the charge, press the C button while standing, and then do the rest of the command). | ||
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|(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [ | |(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [db]~f D || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || | ||
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|CH [ | |CH [db]~f B, [db]~f D || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || A defensive combo with a defensive starter. This is nice to use when you need. And you can use while you're in midscreen too. | ||
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|(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~fbf D || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || | |(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~fbf D || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Stun !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Stun !! Difficulty !! Notes | ||
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|(j.X,) cr.A/B, [b]~f C(3), (C)[ | |(j.X,) cr.A/B, [b]~f C(3), (C)[db]~f D(2), (C)BD, [b]~fbf D || TBA || TBA || TBA || TBA || Probably one of Claw's most damaging combos. Some guys said that this combo is possible with the Exceed instead of the Super on big characters, but I couldn't do it(Because I'm testing on a Keyboard ''only'' to see if it's easy to do), but I could max cancel the roll into the (Charge)db, f+D, and connect this move into another (Charge)db, f+D, and I can confirm that the first hit of the anti-air can juggle the opponent if canceled. The Super part is the most difficult. If you want to try with the Exceed, okay. | ||
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==Miscellaneous== | |||
[https://youtu.be/9ISHHrC6-LM Japanese Vega guide video by D-Atsushi can be found here.] | |||
{{Navbox-SVC}} | {{Navbox-SVC}} | ||
[[Category: SvC Chaos]] | [[Category: SvC Chaos]] | ||
[[Category:Vega (Claw)]] | [[Category:Vega (Claw)]] |
Latest revision as of 02:36, 28 July 2024
バルログ, Balrog (aka Claw) | |
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Category | Normal |
Playstyle | Hit-and-run, footsies |
Difficulty | Difficult |
Max Mode Needed? | Almost Useless |
Tier Placement | Trash (E) |
Standing Hitbox | ? |
Crouching Hitbox | Short |
Defense Modifier | 239 |
Wall Jump | Yes |
Introduction
Vega (known as Balrog in Japan), or also known as Claw to avoid international confusion, is a narcissistic, Spanish ninja that works as M. Bison's personal bodyguard. In at least a few of his appearances, most notably Super Turbo, he has proven to be a monster of a character with incredible buttons and gameplay that forces even the best players to stay on their toes in their approach against him (outside of SF4 and SF5, at least). In SVC, unfortunately, Vega suffers tremendously. He retains a few of his qualities like his great speed, good pokes, and somewhat unpredictable gameplay, however he's also a good example of a good character thrown into a game whose system completely hinders them. Vega's a charge character, but SVC - outside of Guile - is very unforgiving to charge characters when the likes of movement, zoning, and especially front step are prevalent. The system does nothing but make matters worse for Vega as he gains practically zero benefits while also having a pretty bad movelist to work with. On the bright side, you never have to worry about losing either his mask or claw.
Strengths | Weaknesses |
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SVC Chaos: SNK VS Capcom Frame Data Glossary | |
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Damage |
How much damage the attack does. This takes into account no defense modifiers, so the damage assumes a 0% damage modifier, or in other words the average defense modifier of 223 against characters like Kyo and Ryu.
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Counter Damage |
How much damage the attack does on a counter hit, or when it connects with an opponent while they're performing an attack. Counter damage values listed are pulled from the SVC Chaos Enterbrain Mook, save Athena, Red Arremer, Serious Mr. Karate and Shin Akuma. |
Guard |
Where the attack hits, and thus where it must be blocked.
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Guard Crush |
How much guard meter damage the attack does to the green Guard Gauge. |
Stun |
How many points of stun the attack adds to the opponent's invisible Stun Gauge. |
Meter |
How much meter is gained for performing/landing the attack. Special moves earn meter both when activated and when they connect with the opponent, whether it hits them or they block it. |
Cancel |
The type of cancel the attack can perform.
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Startup |
How many frames it takes before the move becomes 'active' or has a hitbox. The SVC Chaos wiki uses classic startup notation, which does not include the first active frame. A move with 3 startup becomes active on frame 4. Super and Exceed startup will calculate both the frames before and after the super flash animation as such: X+Y, with X being the startup frames before the flash animation and Y being the startup frames after the flash animation.
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Active |
How many frames a move remains active (can hurt opponents) for. Consecutive sets of active frames on a multi-hit move are separated by a comma. (Example: 3, 4 - The attack has its first hitbox for 3 frames, then the second hitbox for 4 frames)
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Recovery |
How many frames it takes for a move to finish after it's been active. |
Total |
The total number of frames the attack lasts on screen for. This adds up the startup, active, and recovery frames into one number. |
Hit/Block Adv |
These are frame advantage values when the attack hits or is blocked. If the number is positive, then the move will end before the defender can act again. If the number is negative, the defender will be able to act before the attacker and maybe even punish.
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Invulnerability |
Indicates whether there's any frames of invulnerability during the attack. |
Move List
Normal Moves
Close Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 4 | 4 | 6 | 14 | +2 | +0 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 5 | 6 | 4 | 15 | +2 | +0 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 10 | 5 | 16 | 31 | +4 | +2 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | cl.D= 7 ; st.D= 9 | cl.D= 8 ; st.D= 9 | cl.D= 14 ; st.D= 15 | cl.D= 29 ; st.D= 33 | cl.D= -2 ; st.D= -4 | cl.D= -4 ; st.D= -6 | - | |
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Far Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 7 | 4 | 16 | 27 | -8 | -10 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 14 | 7 | 6 | 27 | +7 | +5 | - | |
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Crouch Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 5 | 6 | 11 | 22 | -5 | -7 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 6 | 6 | 7 | 19 | -1 | -3 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 6 | 10 | 13 | 29 | -3 | -5 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 6 | 6 | 9 | 21 | +5 | +3 | - | |
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Jumping Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 5 | 10 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 6 | 11 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 5 | 16 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 8 | 10 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 8 | nj= 8 ; dj= 7 | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Command Normals
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Overhead | - | - | - | - | 20 | 4 | 17 | 41 | -1 | -3 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | 14 | 5 | 15 | 34 | SKD | -2 | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Low | - | - | - | - | 9 | 14 | 6 | 29 | SKD | -2 | - | |
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Throws
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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24 | 24 | Throw | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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24 | 24 | Throw | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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0 | 0 | Mid | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Special Moves
Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
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[b]~f A | - | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
[b]~f C | - | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
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[db]~f B | - | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
[db]~f D | - | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
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Backslash AC |
- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Version | Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability |
Short Backslash BD |
- | - | Mid | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Super Moves
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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0 | 0 | Mid | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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A= 36x2 ; C= 32x4 | A= 40 ; C= 36 | Mid | A= 2x2 ; C= 2x4 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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A= 34x2 ; C= 24x3 | A= 34 ; C= 24 | Throw | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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B= 34x6 ; D= 32x9 | B= 38 ; D= 36 | Mid | B= 2x6 ; D= 2x9 | 0 | 0 | X | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
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Exceed
Damage | Counter Dmg | Guard | G. Crush | Stun | Meter | Cancel | Startup | Active | Recovery | Total | Hit Adv | Block Adv | Invulnerability | |
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0+132 | 0+132 | Mid | 0 | 0 | 0 | X | 4+7 | 11 | 26 | 48 | HKD | -19 | 1F-11F (Full body invul during startup), 5F-22F (Upper body invul ending just below waist) | |
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Strategy
Basic Strategy
Claw's Gameplan
Claw is a charge character who likes to travel around the screen, you already know that. And he likes to be safe everytime too, with his Wall Leap crossups, with his Backslashes, and with his safe anti-air Special move. Claw, as you know, is a hit & run character, and this can make the match easier to win against some characters. His pokes are very nice too, you should use them. You have the Backslashes at your dispose, and you can even punish projectiles when you need. So travel around the screen, be safe, punish the opponent when you need, and plan your game everytime(If you're in the defense, think what you can do to help yourself, and if you're in the offense, think what you can do against the opponent, and now it's up to you. Good luck in your matches).
Other Notes:
- When entering crouch, Vega's crouching animation will play a brief shine effect on his claw from the base to its tip. When the shine reaches the tip of his claw, that's a visual indicator that Vega's finished charging his special moves and can perform them. This is assuming you weren't of course charging prior, such as walking backwards or jumping, in which case the shine effect wouldn't be as important. Minor detail, but worth noting, much like how Leona shakes her head when she finishes charging while crouching in the KOF series.
- Despite being a charge character, and of course, being affected by the charge motion bug as a result, Vega can do a down charge, walk forwards or backwards, and still do his down-up charge motion specials. As far as it's understood this applies to no one else. Vega can walk for a very long while despite letting go of down.
Advanced Strategy
Match-Ups
Combos
SVC Chaos: SNK VS Capcom Quick Combo Notation Guide | |
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May change to numpad notation much later down the road. |
Vega's combos are better suited for punish situations since he has to charge for all of his moves. Keep in mind, Vega can't cancel normals into Command Moves, even in max mode.
BnB Combos
Combo | Position | Damage | Stun | Difficulty | Notes |
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(j.X,) cl.A x2-3, st./cr.B, AC/BD | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | A simple hit & run combo to practice. And this is good because you don't need to punish your opponent to do this. Watch out, because the cl.A whiffs on low crouching chars. |
(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~f C | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | A kind of basic, but damaging combo. If you want to punish, you can use the cl.C(Do the charge, press the C button while standing, and then do the rest of the command). |
(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [db]~f D | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |
CH [db]~f B, [db]~f D | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | A defensive combo with a defensive starter. This is nice to use when you need. And you can use while you're in midscreen too. |
(j.X,) cl./cr.A/B, [b]~fbf D | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | |
cl.C, Exceed | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | Claw's best punish combo, and it's the only way to combo with the Exceed (without counter hits and the Max Mode). Can be the best way to spend your Exceed. |
Max Mode Combos
Vega can max cancel only 2 of his special moves.
Combo | Position | Damage | Stun | Difficulty | Notes |
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(j.X,) cr.A/B, [b]~f C(3), (C)[db]~f D(2), (C)BD, [b]~fbf D | TBA | TBA | TBA | TBA | Probably one of Claw's most damaging combos. Some guys said that this combo is possible with the Exceed instead of the Super on big characters, but I couldn't do it(Because I'm testing on a Keyboard only to see if it's easy to do), but I could max cancel the roll into the (Charge)db, f+D, and connect this move into another (Charge)db, f+D, and I can confirm that the first hit of the anti-air can juggle the opponent if canceled. The Super part is the most difficult. If you want to try with the Exceed, okay. |