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==Scythe==
==Scythe==


Scythe is a very interactive weapon to use where you have to utilize dodge reads and reactive movements to get in your damage. A great weapon for learning patterns.  
Scythe is a very interactive weapon to use where you have to utilize dodge reads and reactive movements to get in your damage. A great weapon for learning patterns. However it does lack actual true combos, so you'd have to deal with inconsistent kill confirms
{{StrengthsAndWeaknesses
{{StrengthsAndWeaknesses
| intro =  
| intro =  
[[File:BHScythe.png|frameless|center|Greatsword]]
[[File:BHScythe.png|frameless|center|Greatsword]]
| pros =
| pros =
* Excellent flow and poking game
* Some of the best air game to offer
* Can build up a lot of damage easily
* Can build up a lot of damage easily
* Good hitboxes with some disjoint
* Good hitboxes with some disjoint
* Dash cancels can be used to pursuit or reposition, granting good versatility
* Dash cancels can be used to pursuit or reposition, granting good versatility
*  
* Helps to learn dodge patterns and being adaptive
*Great Edgeguarding
| cons =
| cons =
* Lack of force on most moves make the player struggle to get a kill
* Lack of force on most moves make the player struggle to get a kill
* Awful air game
* Horrid recovery on all of its moves
* Inconsistent Combos overall
* Inconsistent Combos overall
* Complex and not easy to pick up
* Complex and not easy to pick up
* No definitive true combos
* No Consistent Kill Confirms
}}
}}
}}
}}


==  Grounded Normals ==
==  Grounded Normals ==
=== Starters ===


===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_St_Nlight.png
|image= ScytheNlight.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name= Neutral Light
|name= Neutral Light
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= This move hits grounded and can possible lead into Sair,Nair or Rec. It's also a good anti air, it lifts the opponent in the air when it hits.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_St_Slight.png
|image= ScytheSlight(norm).jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name= Side Light
|name= Side Light
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Side Light is one the most essential tools for Scythe has a lot of potential for combo starters, make sure to capitalize on this when it connects. Expect a dodge here, so you're definitely going have to react to whatever they do. When it connects you have 2 options, keep the opponent grounded and hit them horizontally, or bring them in the air.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_St_Dlight.png
|image= ScytheDlight.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Down Light
|name=Down Light
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Down Light is a move that will only hit at the max range, there is no hitbox anywhere on it, you leave the opponent in the same 50-50 mixup of either being in the air or shot horizontally.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Br_Nlight.png
|image= ScytheSlight(tap).png
|caption=
|caption=
|name= Neutral Light
|name= Side Light (tapped)
|linkname=5A
|linkname=5A
|input=
|input=
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= If you only press Side Light, then you lift your opponent in the air. Expect a dodge here, if they dodge downwards, you can do Nlight, or Side Light again, or Jump Dlight or if your character has a Signature that hits right in front of them like Mirage's Nsig that's also a viable response. That's just an example of what you can do of a dodge read.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Br_Slight.png
|image= ScytheSlight(hold).png
|caption=
|caption=
|name= Side Light
|name= Side Light (hold)
|linkname=5A
|linkname=5A
|input=
|input=
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= If you hold the direction of Side Light it will throw the opponent horizontally on the ground. Expect a dodge here, you can potentially do something like down light if they spot dodge, which leads them into another mixup. In most cases, you want to use this in early %'s and in the late %'s you'd want to use something like Dlight(hold)
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Br_Dlight.png
|image= ScytheDlight(tap).png
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Down Light
|name=Down Light (tap)
|linkname=5A
|linkname=5A
|input=
|input=
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Dlight tapped leaves the opponent in the air, giving you the same mixup that you would get from tapped slight. Keep this in mind.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
=== Finishers ===


===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Nlight.png
|image= ScytheDlight(hold).png
|caption=
|name= Neutral Light
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Nlight-Slight.png
|caption=
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Nlight-Dlight.png
|caption=
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
 
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Slight.png
|caption=
|name= Side Light
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Slight-Dlight.png
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Down Light (hold)
|linkname=5A
|linkname=5A
|input=
|input=
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= You can't get many followups on this without a dodge from the opponent or a chase dodge followup from you. This move does kill which is good because not a lot of moves kill in Scythe's kit normal without being stringed together.  
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Slight-Nlight.png
|caption=
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}


===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Dlight.png
|caption=
|name=Down Light
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Dlight-Nlight.png
|caption=
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Fn_Dlight-Slight.png
|caption=
|linkname=5A
|input=
|data=
{{AttackData-BH
|Damage=
|Startup=
|Active=
|Recovery=
|Var. Force=
|Fix. Force=
|description=
}}
}}




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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Nair.png
|image= ScytheNair.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Neutral Air
|name=Neutral Air
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Nair is another one of Scythe's great tools, you can throw the opponent essentially anywhere you want, front, behind, below, you name it and this leads to another potential mixup definitely try to mixup your options here so they have to change their dodge each time.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Sair.png
|image= ScytheSair.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Side Air
|name=Side Air
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Side Air is somewhat of a filler move, it's still a good move and it has kill potential but you wont be using this move as much compared to Dlight or Slight.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Dair.png
|image= ScytheDair.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Down Air
|name=Down Air
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Down Air is a very important move to Scythe's kit, it allows you to throw your opponent at a vertical angle. This move is great on edge guard and potential leading into neutral reset which leads back into more 50-50's
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_GP.png
|image= ScytheGP.jpeg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Ground Pound
|name=Ground Pound
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Scythe Ground Pound doesnt have too much force on it compared to other weapons, but due to the lack of force it has the potential to be eggdropped like Spear.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}
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===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
{{MoveData
{{MoveData
|image= Greatsword_Rec.png
|image= ScytheRec.jpg
|caption=
|caption=
|name=Recovery
|name=Recovery
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  |Var. Force=  
  |Var. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |Fix. Force=  
  |description=  
  |description= Scythe Recovery is a good move to use in combos and a good recovery tool, but try not use this too much for kills unless you are sure it will most likely kill.
  }}
  }}
  }}
  }}


== Combos ==
===== <span class="invisible-header">5A</span> =====
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=== Basic Gameplan ===
=== Basic Gameplan ===

Latest revision as of 01:12, 3 June 2021

Scythe IconBH.png

Scythe

Scythe is a very interactive weapon to use where you have to utilize dodge reads and reactive movements to get in your damage. A great weapon for learning patterns. However it does lack actual true combos, so you'd have to deal with inconsistent kill confirms

Greatsword
Pros Cons
  • Some of the best air game to offer
  • Can build up a lot of damage easily
  • Good hitboxes with some disjoint
  • Dash cancels can be used to pursuit or reposition, granting good versatility
  • Helps to learn dodge patterns and being adaptive
  • Great Edgeguarding
  • Lack of force on most moves make the player struggle to get a kill
  • Inconsistent Combos overall
  • Complex and not easy to pick up
  • No definitive true combos
  • No Consistent Kill Confirms

Grounded Normals

5A
Neutral Light
ScytheNlight.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

This move hits grounded and can possible lead into Sair,Nair or Rec. It's also a good anti air, it lifts the opponent in the air when it hits.

5A
Side Light
ScytheSlight(norm).jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Side Light is one the most essential tools for Scythe has a lot of potential for combo starters, make sure to capitalize on this when it connects. Expect a dodge here, so you're definitely going have to react to whatever they do. When it connects you have 2 options, keep the opponent grounded and hit them horizontally, or bring them in the air.

5A
Down Light
ScytheDlight.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Down Light is a move that will only hit at the max range, there is no hitbox anywhere on it, you leave the opponent in the same 50-50 mixup of either being in the air or shot horizontally.


Bridges

5A
Side Light (tapped)
ScytheSlight(tap).png
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

If you only press Side Light, then you lift your opponent in the air. Expect a dodge here, if they dodge downwards, you can do Nlight, or Side Light again, or Jump Dlight or if your character has a Signature that hits right in front of them like Mirage's Nsig that's also a viable response. That's just an example of what you can do of a dodge read.

5A
Side Light (hold)
ScytheSlight(hold).png
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

If you hold the direction of Side Light it will throw the opponent horizontally on the ground. Expect a dodge here, you can potentially do something like down light if they spot dodge, which leads them into another mixup. In most cases, you want to use this in early %'s and in the late %'s you'd want to use something like Dlight(hold)

5A
Down Light (tap)
ScytheDlight(tap).png
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Dlight tapped leaves the opponent in the air, giving you the same mixup that you would get from tapped slight. Keep this in mind.

5A
Down Light (hold)
ScytheDlight(hold).png
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

You can't get many followups on this without a dodge from the opponent or a chase dodge followup from you. This move does kill which is good because not a lot of moves kill in Scythe's kit normal without being stringed together.


Aerial Normals

5A
Neutral Air
ScytheNair.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Nair is another one of Scythe's great tools, you can throw the opponent essentially anywhere you want, front, behind, below, you name it and this leads to another potential mixup definitely try to mixup your options here so they have to change their dodge each time.

5A
Side Air
ScytheSair.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Side Air is somewhat of a filler move, it's still a good move and it has kill potential but you wont be using this move as much compared to Dlight or Slight.

5A
Down Air
ScytheDair.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Down Air is a very important move to Scythe's kit, it allows you to throw your opponent at a vertical angle. This move is great on edge guard and potential leading into neutral reset which leads back into more 50-50's

5A
Ground Pound
ScytheGP.jpeg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Scythe Ground Pound doesnt have too much force on it compared to other weapons, but due to the lack of force it has the potential to be eggdropped like Spear.

5A
Recovery
ScytheRec.jpg
Damage Startup Active Recovery Var. Force Fix. Force
- - - - - -

Scythe Recovery is a good move to use in combos and a good recovery tool, but try not use this too much for kills unless you are sure it will most likely kill.


Basic Gameplan

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Edge Guarding

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