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{{Infobox Character XCOTA | |||
|name=Iceman | |||
|ttype=Counter-Thrower | |||
|wclass=Middle-Weight | |||
|image=XCOTA_Iceman_Portrait.png|center|200px | |||
}} | |||
== Moves List == | |||
=== Normal Moves === | |||
Dashing -- Iceman retains a lot of momentum from his ground dashes, sliding forward or backward for quite a ways, unless the dash is cancelled with back. <br> | |||
Dashes ending with standing normals will cease moving forward once the normal has ended, chaining will extend the dash slide.<br> | |||
If you crouch after a dash has begun, you will retain a lot of forward momentum. The way to avoid this (if need be) is to cancel the dash with back, then crouch. | |||
s.lp: Basic jab, fast and combined with his quick dash could be a dashing jab infinite. <br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sLP.jpg]] | |||
s.mp<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sMP.jpg]] | |||
s.hp: When this hits as a juggle, it'll knock them up and away. You can get some interesting corner juggles on heavy characters by cancelling whiff c.LK with this.<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sHP-1.jpg]][[File:COTA-Iceman-sHP-2.jpg]][[File:COTA-Iceman-sHP-3.jpg]] | |||
s.lk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sLK.jpg]] | |||
s.mk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sMK.jpg]] | |||
s.hk: Has some startup, but good for controlling space. <br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-sHK-1.jpg]][[File:COTA-Iceman-sHK-2.jpg]] | |||
c.lp: Basic jab, fast and combined with his quick dash could be a dashing jab infinite.<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cLP.jpg]] | |||
c.mp<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cMP.jpg]] | |||
c.hp: Counts as a sweep but if it hits an airborne opponent, it will juggle them.<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cHP.jpg]] | |||
c.lk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cLK.jpg]] | |||
c.mk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cMK.jpg]] | |||
c.hk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-cHK.jpg]] | |||
j.lp<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jLP.jpg]] | |||
j.mp<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jMP.jpg]] | |||
j.hp<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jHP.jpg]] | |||
j.lk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jLK.jpg]] | |||
j.mk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jMK.jpg]] | |||
j.hk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-jHK.jpg]] | |||
j.2hk<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-j2HK-1.jpg]][[File:COTA-Iceman-j2HK-2.jpg]] | |||
down + hp in the air drops a projectile normal that does alot of stun, and if it hits as part of a juggle, the opponent will be held, then start flying up+back. Note that Iceman is in a state where he can't block unless he cancels this into HK then recovers, or cancels to any special<br> | |||
[[File:COTA-Iceman-j2HP.jpg]] | |||
'''Throws''': | |||
-MP throw is the "freeze" throw. If this isn't teched at the beginning or end of the "grab" animation, it seems it can't be safe-falled. Doesn't apply to his counter-throw/air throw. | |||
- After an air throw, Iceman can't do anything. But after a tech throw in the air, Iceman can attack on the way down | |||
=== Special Moves === | === Special Moves === | ||
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MP - Straight<br> | MP - Straight<br> | ||
HP - Up angle<br> | HP - Up angle<br> | ||
Easy to combo but long recovery. You can mash to make the beam last longer, but it will only ever do up to 6 hits. | Easy to combo but long recovery. You can mash to make the beam last longer, but it will only ever do up to 6 hits. Even if it combos, if you are close, they may recover before you do. | ||
'''Ice Avalanche''': Same Strength P+K(ground, air)<br> | '''Ice Avalanche''': Same Strength P+K(ground, air)<br> | ||
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MP+MK - Falls straight down. <br> | MP+MK - Falls straight down. <br> | ||
HP+HK - Falls away from you. <br> | HP+HK - Falls away from you. <br> | ||
All start out a slight ways (3 character widths?) in front of him. Lots of dizzy power, will combo off of stand/crouch HK on many characters. | All start out a slight ways (3 character widths?) in front of him. Lots of dizzy power, will combo off of stand/crouch HK on many characters. Another very slow move with long recovery. | ||
=== X-Special === | === X-Special === | ||
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== The Basics == | == The Basics == | ||
Iceman can make it difficult to approach by utilizing j.down+HP (normal jump or superjump), backdash s.HK (GREAT hitbox), and smartly using Ice Avalanche (Big Ball) and Icebeam to keep people away. His specials are slow and have a ton of recovery, so spacing is key to using those moves effectively. | |||
MP Throw, s.HP, s.HK, Hard Ice Avalanche will combo on and dizzy most of the cast. Won't work on Superheavies, the s.HK won't keep them in hitstun long enough. | |||
MP Throw -> Super | |||
==== Beam Resistance ==== | ==== Beam Resistance ==== | ||
When playing as or fighting against Iceman, note that he doesn't take block damage or get pushed back from certain special attacks and supers. Generally it's "energy" based attacks, but there seem to be exceptions. | When playing as or fighting against Iceman, note that he doesn't take block damage or get pushed back from certain special attacks and supers. Generally it's "energy" based attacks, but there seem to be exceptions. Characters with chip normals will all cause chip as well. | ||
===== Does '''NOT''' Take Chip From ===== | ===== Does '''NOT''' Take Chip From ===== | ||
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===== Takes Chip From ===== | ===== Takes Chip From ===== | ||
-'''Akuma''': Super Fireball<br> | -'''Akuma''': Super Fireball, "physical" specials/supers<br> | ||
-'''Colossus''': All<br> | -'''Colossus''': All<br> | ||
-'''Cyclops''': "Physical" hits of gene splice<br> | -'''Cyclops''': "Physical" hits of gene splice<br> | ||
-'''Iceman''': Other "physical" specials/supers<br> | -'''Iceman''': Other "physical" specials/supers<br> | ||
-'''Omega Red''': All<br> | -'''Omega Red''': All special/super<br> | ||
-'''Psylocke''': Other special/super<br> | -'''Psylocke''': Other special/super<br> | ||
-'''Sentinel''': Everything else<br> | -'''Sentinel''': Everything else<br> | ||
-'''Silver Samurai''': Shuriken, Supers<br> | -'''Silver Samurai''': Shuriken, Supers<br> | ||
-'''Spiral''': Swords<br> | -'''Spiral''': Swords<br> | ||
-'''Storm''': All <br> | -'''Storm''': All special/super <br> | ||
-'''Wolverine''': All<br> | -'''Wolverine''': All special/super <br> | ||
Any "resisted" attack will not push Iceman backwards. If you're jumping and block a "resisted" attack, you'll drop straight down. | Any "resisted" attack will not push Iceman backwards. If you're jumping and block a "resisted" attack, you'll drop straight down. | ||
== Advanced Strategy == | == Advanced Strategy == | ||
== Combos == | |||
Normal jump infinite:<br> | |||
[jump toward j.d + HP, j.d + HK] x N<br> | |||
Very difficult on Wolverine, Psylocke and Colossus, may have to create some distance before jumping in on some characters. | |||
Vs. Sentinel: corner dash HP, c.HK, (or just c.HK) xx [sj sj LK, sj.d. + HP sj. D+HK (wiff) falling sj LP, sj.LK, sj.d+HP land c.HK] repeat in brackets | |||
There is a slight pause between HP and c.HK at the start.You can do a full chain from lp to d+hp on sentinel on the way down if you want and can combo a super after falling d +HP if you are quick enough. Will work on Colossus as well but there's less of him to hit so after the launcher: [sj.LK, sj d+HP, sj.d+HK (wiff) falling sj.d+HP] is more stable. Harder in the right corner since you can end up behind the opponent in the air. | |||
Vs. Silver Samurai: corner dash MK, xx [sj sj.LK, sj.d+HP, sj.HK (wiffs), falling sj.LP, sj.MP, sj.d+HP] repeat. | |||
When you land you can re super jump with the sj.LK, d.HP chain or you can use MK then super jump. The sj.LK can be omitted sometimes during relaunch. | |||
Vs Cyclops: corner dash c.HK xx sj [sj.d+HP, sj HK, (wiff) falling sj.LP, sj.LK, sj.d+HP] repeat in brackets | |||
You can do 2 sj.LPs on the way down if you want. The first sj.d+HP after the launcher must be immediate. Hold forward after the wiffed sj. HK. Probably can work on Omega Red as well. Somewhat difficult. | |||
{{Navbox-XCOTA}} | |||
[[Category: X-Men: Children of the Atom| Iceman (XMCOTA)]] | [[Category: X-Men: Children of the Atom| Iceman (XMCOTA)]] |
Latest revision as of 22:16, 27 June 2022
Introduction/Summary
A solid middle-tier character with great normals but slow specials. Most people pick him for his MP throw -> Super, and his chipping ability. But he's actually quite adept rushing down, and good at zoning due to his normals. He fights Sentinel rather well, due to Sent's large size and the space Iceman is capable of controlling.
Attack Chain
Ground Chain: Punch to Kick (any)
Normal Jump Chain: Punch to Kick (any)
Super Jump Chain: Zig Zag 1
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Moves List
Normal Moves
Dashing -- Iceman retains a lot of momentum from his ground dashes, sliding forward or backward for quite a ways, unless the dash is cancelled with back.
Dashes ending with standing normals will cease moving forward once the normal has ended, chaining will extend the dash slide.
If you crouch after a dash has begun, you will retain a lot of forward momentum. The way to avoid this (if need be) is to cancel the dash with back, then crouch.
s.lp: Basic jab, fast and combined with his quick dash could be a dashing jab infinite.
s.hp: When this hits as a juggle, it'll knock them up and away. You can get some interesting corner juggles on heavy characters by cancelling whiff c.LK with this.
s.hk: Has some startup, but good for controlling space.
c.lp: Basic jab, fast and combined with his quick dash could be a dashing jab infinite.
c.hp: Counts as a sweep but if it hits an airborne opponent, it will juggle them.
down + hp in the air drops a projectile normal that does alot of stun, and if it hits as part of a juggle, the opponent will be held, then start flying up+back. Note that Iceman is in a state where he can't block unless he cancels this into HK then recovers, or cancels to any special
Throws: -MP throw is the "freeze" throw. If this isn't teched at the beginning or end of the "grab" animation, it seems it can't be safe-falled. Doesn't apply to his counter-throw/air throw.
- After an air throw, Iceman can't do anything. But after a tech throw in the air, Iceman can attack on the way down
Special Moves
Icebeam: D,DF,F+P (ground, air; beam type)
LP - Down angle
MP - Straight
HP - Up angle
Easy to combo but long recovery. You can mash to make the beam last longer, but it will only ever do up to 6 hits. Even if it combos, if you are close, they may recover before you do.
Ice Avalanche: Same Strength P+K(ground, air)
LP+LK - Falls towards you.
MP+MK - Falls straight down.
HP+HK - Falls away from you.
All start out a slight ways (3 character widths?) in front of him. Lots of dizzy power, will combo off of stand/crouch HK on many characters. Another very slow move with long recovery.
X-Special
Ice Fist: D,DB,B+3P (ground only)
Powers up punches (range, stun, some multi-hit and juggle). You don't gain meter from punches as long as it's active. Only lasts for about 3 attacks.
Super Attacks
Arctic Attack: D,DF,F+3P (ground, air)
Easily comboed into as a juggle, and most famously off an MP throw. Mash for more hits, and hold up while mashing at the end for a longer juggle window.
The Basics
Iceman can make it difficult to approach by utilizing j.down+HP (normal jump or superjump), backdash s.HK (GREAT hitbox), and smartly using Ice Avalanche (Big Ball) and Icebeam to keep people away. His specials are slow and have a ton of recovery, so spacing is key to using those moves effectively.
MP Throw, s.HP, s.HK, Hard Ice Avalanche will combo on and dizzy most of the cast. Won't work on Superheavies, the s.HK won't keep them in hitstun long enough.
MP Throw -> Super
Beam Resistance
When playing as or fighting against Iceman, note that he doesn't take block damage or get pushed back from certain special attacks and supers. Generally it's "energy" based attacks, but there seem to be exceptions. Characters with chip normals will all cause chip as well.
Does NOT Take Chip From
-Akuma: Regular Fireballs
-Cyclops: Optic Blasts, supers, bullet end of gene splice. Bullet(HP) doesn't push back
-Iceman: Icebeam
-Psylocke: Psi-flash
-Sentinel: Standing HP (beam), Super
Takes Chip From
-Akuma: Super Fireball, "physical" specials/supers
-Colossus: All
-Cyclops: "Physical" hits of gene splice
-Iceman: Other "physical" specials/supers
-Omega Red: All special/super
-Psylocke: Other special/super
-Sentinel: Everything else
-Silver Samurai: Shuriken, Supers
-Spiral: Swords
-Storm: All special/super
-Wolverine: All special/super
Any "resisted" attack will not push Iceman backwards. If you're jumping and block a "resisted" attack, you'll drop straight down.
Advanced Strategy
Combos
Normal jump infinite:
[jump toward j.d + HP, j.d + HK] x N
Very difficult on Wolverine, Psylocke and Colossus, may have to create some distance before jumping in on some characters.
Vs. Sentinel: corner dash HP, c.HK, (or just c.HK) xx [sj sj LK, sj.d. + HP sj. D+HK (wiff) falling sj LP, sj.LK, sj.d+HP land c.HK] repeat in brackets
There is a slight pause between HP and c.HK at the start.You can do a full chain from lp to d+hp on sentinel on the way down if you want and can combo a super after falling d +HP if you are quick enough. Will work on Colossus as well but there's less of him to hit so after the launcher: [sj.LK, sj d+HP, sj.d+HK (wiff) falling sj.d+HP] is more stable. Harder in the right corner since you can end up behind the opponent in the air.
Vs. Silver Samurai: corner dash MK, xx [sj sj.LK, sj.d+HP, sj.HK (wiffs), falling sj.LP, sj.MP, sj.d+HP] repeat.
When you land you can re super jump with the sj.LK, d.HP chain or you can use MK then super jump. The sj.LK can be omitted sometimes during relaunch.
Vs Cyclops: corner dash c.HK xx sj [sj.d+HP, sj HK, (wiff) falling sj.LP, sj.LK, sj.d+HP] repeat in brackets
You can do 2 sj.LPs on the way down if you want. The first sj.d+HP after the launcher must be immediate. Hold forward after the wiffed sj. HK. Probably can work on Omega Red as well. Somewhat difficult.