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Introduction

The one and only robot master and Mega Man's sister, Roll! Coming straight out of Mega Man 8, Roll invades the Marvel VS Capcom scene as a secret joke character, mirroring much of Mega Man's own moves. Cuteness, jokes and her rocking anime theme song aside, as you can probably guess from being a joke character, she sucks. While being small helps in her favor by making her more nimble, that also means her normals have abysmal range, her specials have lengthy recovery and startup, she deals less damage overall, and is unequivocally the weakest character in the game. You'll be fighting an uphill battle with her, regardless of your team composition. Although if it makes you feel better, she's not as bad as her MVC2 counterpart. Still, she can be pretty fun in her own right, and if you manage to win a match with her, you get to enjoy the glory of beating your opponent with her.

Needs updated pros/cons.

How To Select Roll

Go to Zangief's box, then move the cursor like so: ×2, ×2, ×2, ×2, ×2, , , ×2, ×2.

The last right (6) will move you to Roll's box on the right of Megaman's. Do note that if you attempt to select Roll as the second character, the game will prevent the code from working if the first character is not a secret character (such as Strider). The first character's selection box will overlap the cursor, causing it to skip the character and prevent the code from working. Hold all three punches before the match starts to switch order if you wish her to be the second character.

Strengths

Weaknesses

Small hitbox: Roll is the smallest character in the game, making her a difficult target to hit and forcing opponents to change their gameplay slightly, especially changing their combo routes.
Easy to learn: Knowing what she can or can't do is black and white and is better off playing chicken and running away than actually fighting directly. If she does fight directly, that also takes next to no time to learn as it's just a matter of knowing how to use her normals and magic series combos.
Slide kick: Roll's cr.HK is a slide, making her already small size even smaller by letting her go under projectiles and poking the opponent with it.
She has her own theme song compared to the other hidden characters: Marvel and J-Pop, what more needs to be said?

Low health: Roll can't afford mistakes in neutral as any stray hit or combo will hurt a lot more against her. She fortunately does not have Red Venom levels of health, and her small size makes some combos drop against her resulting in less damage, but it's low enough to make a noticeable difference.
Awful normals: Extremely stubby normals with no priority that force Roll to get close to the opponent just to land them and makes doing magic series combos a lot harder, too. There's basically nothing good to say about them.
Miniscule damage: Roll does chicken scratch damage at best, even her best damage doesn't do as much as a simple combo on others can do without getting too close for comfort.
Weak zoning: Zoning with Roll, probably one of the safest ways to play her, is more annoying than it is threatening as her Roll Buster projectile is big, but weak, and comes out pretty slow on top of the slow recovery. Combined with needing to summon Eddie like Mega Man for some special moves, it's a hassle to set up.
Worse supers than Mega Man: Needs verifying for how much worse they are, but they tend to have longer startup, recovery, and less overall damage for the meter you spend.
Joke character: Roll is designed bad on purpose, she's not meant to be played seriously. Everything about her is awful, and she simply provides no value to any teams.
Extended version of her song is only available in the Japanese version

Move List

Normals

Ground Normals

s.LP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

s.MP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

s.HP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

s.LK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

s.MK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

s.HK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground, Launcher

c.LP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

c.MP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

c.HP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

c.LK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

c.MK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

c.HK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

Air Normals

j.LP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

j.MP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

j.HP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

j.LK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

j.MK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

j.HK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

Command Normals

j8HK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Air

Throws

Normal Throw

Normal Throw
4/6 + MP/HP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground

Specials

Roll Buster
QCF + P

Version	Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
QCF + LP LP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air
Nope, you can't charge! Plus this has the longest recovery time of any fireball move, and it moves fairly slowly. Still an essential move for Roll, as it gives her a long ranged option to compensate for everything else lacking severely in range. It will buy Roll some time as an annoying poke for the opponent to deal with. Arguably easier to use than Mega Man's Mega Buster since it's just a normal fireball, otherwise.
QCF + MP MP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air
QCF + HP HP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air

Exploding Flower
QCB + P

Version	Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
QCB + LP LP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air
Funny move.
QCB + MP MP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air
QCB + HP HP Version	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air

Item Change
Eddie reporting for duty.
QCB + K

Version	Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
QCB + LK Eddie Summon: Rock Ball	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll summons Eddie to give her the Rock Ball, the weapon Mega Man first receives in Mega Man 8. Just like in that game, kicking it allows the ball to bounce around the walls and screen.
QCB + MK Eddie Summon: Tornado Hold	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll summons Eddie to give her the Tornado Hold weapon.
QCB + HK Eddie Summon: Leaf Shield	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll summons Eddie to give her Wood Man's weapon, the Leaf Shield.

Item Attack
Roll attacks with whatever item she currently has equipped.
QCF + K

Version	Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
QCF + LK Rock Ball	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll summons the Rock Ball from Mega Man 8. Just like in that game, kicking it allows the ball to bounce around the walls and screen.
QCF + MK Tornado Hold	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll uses the Tornado Hold.
QCF + HK Leaf Shield	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground
Roll uses Wood Man's weapon, Leaf Shield.

Hyper Combos

Hyper Roll

Hyper Roll
QCF + PP

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air super
Just like the Hyper Mega Man, except it's the Hyper Roll! Plus, you won't hit your opponent much with this super unless you nail them during activation because the missiles and bombs and stuff come out way too slow. The only thing that's instantaneous is a laser that shoots out from her head but it comes out too high to be of much use. Also, it seems to come out slower as I couldn't get it to combo in the air.

Rush Drill

Rush Drill
QCF + KK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground super

Beat Plane

Beat Plane
QCB + KK

Damage	Guard	Startup	Active	Recovery	Total	Hit Adv	Block Adv	Meter Gain	Property
-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Ground/air super
Roll's slowest super.

Strategy

Basic Tips

Magic Series: Hunter Series for all moves
AC Finisher: HP, HK

Advanced

Team Setups

Combos

Combo	Damage	Notes
j.LP, d.c.LK, c.MK, c.HK, (LP) Tornado Hold (OTG) or Roll Buster
d.c.LK, c.MK, c.HK, Rush Drill (OTG)
Flower Bouquet, c.HK, Rush Drill (OTG)
d.c.LK, c.MK, s.HK, s.j.LP, s.j.LK, s.j.MP, s.j.MK, Roll Buster
Leaf Shield, d.s..LK, s.HK, s.j.LP, s.j.LK, s.j.MP, s.j.MK, Fire Leaf Shield
d.s.LK, s.HK, s.j.LP, s.j.MP, Hyper Roll
Tornado Hold, s.HK, s.j.LP, s.j.LK, s.j.MP, s.j.MK, Roll Buster		Corner only

Game Navigation

Marvel vs Capcom
General
Controls Notation HUD Assists System FAQ

Capcom Characters
Captain Commando Chun Li Jin Lilith Mega Man Morrigan Roll Ryu Shadow Lady Strider Zangief

Marvel Characters
Captain America Gambit Gold War Machine Hulk Hyper Venom Orange Hulk Spider Man Venom War Machine Wolverine

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+{{MVC1 Character Subnav|name=Roll}}
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-=Introduction=
+==Introduction==
 The one and only robot master and Mega Man's sister, Roll! Coming straight out of Mega Man 8, Roll invades the Marvel VS Capcom scene as a secret joke character, mirroring much of Mega Man's own moves. Cuteness, jokes and her rocking anime theme song aside, as you can probably guess from being a joke character, she sucks. While being small helps in her favor by making her more nimble, that also means her normals have abysmal range, her specials have lengthy recovery and startup, she deals less damage overall, and is unequivocally the weakest character in the game. You'll be fighting an uphill battle with her, regardless of your team composition. Although if it makes you feel better, she's not as bad as her MVC2 counterpart. Still, she can be pretty fun in her own right, and if you manage to win a match with her, you get to enjoy the glory of beating your opponent with her.
-{|
+Needs updated pros/cons.
-|-style="text-align:left;"
-! Pros !! Cons
+'''How To Select Roll'''
-|- style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left"
-| style="width: 50%;"|
-* Small hitbox
-* Easy to learn and funny to play
-* She has a new zoning anti-air move
-* She has her own theme song compared to the other hidden characters
-| style="width: 50%;"|
-* Lowest Stamina in the game along with Carnage
-* More Unsafe Hypers than Mega Man
-* Extended version of her song is only available in the Japanese version
-|-
-|}
-==How To Select Roll==
 Go to Zangief's box, then move the cursor like so: [[File:Left.gif]]×2, [[File:Down.gif]]×2, [[File:Right.gif]]×2, [[File:Down.gif]]×2, [[File:Left.gif]]×2, [[File:Up.gif]], [[File:Right.gif]], [[File:Up.gif]]×2, [[File:Right.gif]]×2.
-The last right (6) will move you to Roll's box on the right of Megaman's. Do note that if you attempt to select Roll as the second character, the game will prevent the code from working if the first character is not a secret character (such as Strider). The first character's selection box will overlap the cursor, causing it to skip the character and prevent the code from working.
+The last right (6) will move you to Roll's box on the right of Megaman's. Do note that if you attempt to select Roll as the second character, the game will prevent the code from working if the first character is not a secret character (such as Strider). The first character's selection box will overlap the cursor, causing it to skip the character and prevent the code from working. Hold all three punches before the match starts to switch order if you wish her to be the second character.
+{{ ProConTable
+| pros =
+* '''Small hitbox:''' Roll is the smallest character in the game, making her a difficult target to hit and forcing opponents to change their gameplay slightly, especially changing their combo routes.
+* '''Easy to learn:''' Knowing what she can or can't do is black and white and is better off playing chicken and running away than actually fighting directly. If she does fight directly, that also takes next to no time to learn as it's just a matter of knowing how to use her normals and magic series combos.
+* '''Slide kick:''' Roll's cr.HK is a slide, making her already small size even smaller by letting her go under projectiles and poking the opponent with it.
+* '''She has her own theme song compared to the other hidden characters:''' Marvel and J-Pop, what more needs to be said?
+| cons =
+* '''Low health:''' Roll can't afford mistakes in neutral as any stray hit or combo will hurt a lot more against her. She fortunately does not have Red Venom levels of health, and her small size makes some combos drop against her resulting in less damage, but it's low enough to make a noticeable difference.
+* '''Awful normals:''' Extremely stubby normals with no priority that force Roll to get close to the opponent just to land them and makes doing magic series combos a lot harder, too. There's basically nothing good to say about them.
+* '''Miniscule damage:''' Roll does chicken scratch damage at best, even her best damage doesn't do as much as a simple combo on others can do without getting too close for comfort.
+* '''Weak zoning:''' Zoning with Roll, probably one of the safest ways to play her, is more annoying than it is threatening as her Roll Buster projectile is big, but weak, and comes out pretty slow on top of the slow recovery. Combined with needing to summon Eddie like Mega Man for some special moves, it's a hassle to set up.
+* '''Worse supers than Mega Man:''' Needs verifying for how much worse they are, but they tend to have longer startup, recovery, and less overall damage for the meter you spend.
+* '''Joke character:''' Roll is designed bad on purpose, she's not meant to be played seriously. Everything about her is awful, and she simply provides no value to any teams.
+* '''Extended version of her song is only available in the Japanese version'''
+}}
-=Move List=
+==Move List==
-==Normals==
+===Normals===
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-= Strategy =
+==Strategy==
-==Basic Tips==
+===Basic Tips===
 Magic Series: Hunter Series for all moves<br>
 AC Finisher: HP, HK<br>
-==Advanced==
+===Advanced===
 ==Team Setups==
-= Combos =
+==Combos==
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