Kouma Kishima (MBAC): Difference between revisions

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Introduction

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Normal Moves

Motion	Y. Damage	R. Damage	Meter Gained	Startup	Proration	Blocked	Shielded
5A	400	200	3%	?	90%	Ground	Any
2A	350	200	3.5%	?	75%	Ground	Any
j.A	300	150	3%	?	78%	Upper	Any
5B	700	450	7%	?	100%	Ground	High
2B	800	450	8%	?	100%	Ground	Low
j.B	800	600	8%	?	100%	Upper	High
5C	1000	700	10%	?	90%	Ground	High
5[C]	300+1000	300+300	8+0%	?	100%	Unblockable	High
6C	900	500	10%	?	70%	Upper	High
2C	1200	580	12%	?	50%	Low	Low
2[C]	1500	1080	13%	?	70%	Low	Low
j.C	1100	700	9%	?	85%	Upper	High
j.[C]	1500	1200	12%	?	85%	Upper	High
214D	1200	1000	10%	?	100%	Ground	High

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Ground throw: 1300/800. Grabs the opponent and pops them up (while setting them on fire). Techable on ground impact.

Air throw: 1200/600. Slams the opponent on the ground; untechable.

Special Moves

Motion	Y. Damage	R. Damage	Meter Gained	Startup	Proration	Blocked	Shielded
Santeisui (Some Engrishy Move Name)
236A>	550	400	3.5%	?	100%	Ground	High
>236A-	550	400	4.5%	?	100%	Ground	High
-236A	600	400	5%	?	100%	Upper	High
236B	550	400	3.5%	?	100%	Ground	High
>236B-	550	400	4.5%	?	100%	Ground	High
-236B	600	400	5%	?	100%	Upper	High
236C	885*3	635*3	-100%	?	70%	Ground	High
Niteisui (Some Engrishy Move Name)
623A>	600*2	500*2	4%*2	?	100%	Any	High
>236A	600	500	6%	?	80%	Upper	High
623B>	400*2+800	300*2+600	14%	?	100%	Any	High
>236B	600	500	6%	?	80%	Upper	High
623C	500*8	450*8	-100%	?	100%	Any	High
Niteisui (air) (Some Engrishy Move Name)
j.236A>	800	600	8%	?	100%	Any	High
>j.236A	600	500	6%	?	80%	Upper	High
j.236B>	500+700	400+500	5+6%	?	100%	Upper	High
>j.236B	600	500	6%	?	80%	Upper	High
j.236C	380*7	300*7	-100%	?	70%	Any	High
Akkai (Some Engrishy Move Name)
214A~5	2000	1500	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~2	2200	1500	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~4	2400	1200	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~236C	3000	2500	-100%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214B~5	2000	1500	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~2	2200	1500	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~4	2400	1200	0%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214A~236C	3000	2500	-100%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
214C	3200	2400	-100%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
Kabutogami (Some Engrishy Move Name)
22A	1000	750	8%	?	75%	Ground	Any
22B	0	0	0	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
22C	1000	600	-100%	?	100%	Ground	Any
Dokkaku \| Enbu Enjou (Some Random Arc Drive) [Requires Heat or Max Mode]
41236C (trw)	400*11+1600	275*12	-300%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
41236C	2500	2100	-300%	?	80%	Any	Any
Koushu \| Enbu Daienfujou (Some Random BH Arc Drive) [Requires Blood Heat Mode]
41236C (trw)	435*17+2200	300*17+750	-300%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable
41236C	3200	2800	-300%	?	80%	Any	Any
Yama Hanketsu (Some Random Last Arc) [Requires Blood Heat Mode]
D (air)	745*8	615*8	-300%	?	100%	Unblockable	Unshieldable

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Strategies, Tactics, and Combos

Combos

His standard combo is 2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C jump canceled into an air throw. This does a ton of damage for a standard combo at ~3700 damage. If you can start the combo with a 5B or 2B (dropping the 5A), the damage goes up to over 4100. On some characters you may to double jump immediately into the air throw once in the air, so input the throw as 9A+D instead of 6A+D.

An alternative combo to do (that does more damage but is also more prone to random failure) is 2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C, jump cancel j.C 236B 236B. This does 4000 starting from 2A and 4700 starting from 5B. You can do j.C 236C at the end instead, but that wastes meter to add a whopping 200 extra damage.

If you land a 2A or 5B in the corner with meter to spare, you can instead do 2A 5B 2B 5C 236C (wallslams) 5A 2B jump cancel air throw. This does 4800 damage starting from a 2A and 5500 damage starting from a 5B. The timing of the 5A after the wallslam is the hardest part of the combo, as it is effectively a three-frame link. Again, on some characters you need to input the throw as 9A+D for it to consistently land.

When you are in the corner and you land a 214A~4 throw, you can follow up with 5C 2B jump cancel air throw. This does about 3700 damage. The 5C needs to be done late so that they will be low enough for the 2B to hit.

Changes Between Aracde and PS2 Versions

His Last Arc has been sped up now so that people can not block it after the super flash.

Raw

(23:59:46) <@Dipstick>: I should do Aoko's and Kouma's pages next (23:59:53) <@Dipstick>: but I'll leave the actual Aoko strats to someone else (23:59:55) <@Sp00ky>: i can do kouma pretty easy. (00:00:00) —› Day changed to (Saturday, August 12th 2006). (00:00:03) <@Dipstick>: I'm not touching her with a 50 foot pole (00:00:04) <@Sp00ky>: since the character requires about 1 day to learn (00:00:05) <@Dipstick>: I'm not stupid (00:00:19) <@VManOfMana>: Zar should learn Ciel (00:00:23) <@Sp00ky>: he has to be the easiest character in the game (00:00:35) <@Dipstick>: even easier than Sacchin? (00:00:39) <@Sp00ky>: yes (00:00:40) <@Sp00ky>: way easier (00:00:42) <Seikishi>: the new 214b is good (00:00:43) <Seikishi>: in fact (00:00:46) <@Dipstick>: wow (00:00:49) <Seikishi>: I daresay it's the best bara cancel in the game (00:00:50) <Seikishi>: :p (00:00:50) <@Sp00ky>: his 214A is dumb fast and unblockable (lol) (00:00:52) <@Dipstick>: Sacchin is pretty fucking braindead (00:01:05) <@Dipstick>: jesus fuck even I can do her combos (00:01:15) <@Sp00ky>: his 5B = 'lol i spaced wrong but sincei move forward its ok i can still hit' (00:01:15) <@Dipstick>: (I can even do her j.[C] relaunch stuff hurr) (00:01:40) <@Sp00ky>: his corner combo off 214A hold back is so easy i got it right on the first try. (00:02:16) <@Sp00ky>: err his combo off 236C requires some practice but by some i mean 'train yourself to do a 4 or so frame link consistently' (00:02:48) <@Sp00ky>: the character's mixup involved 'will i throw an attack or will i 214A' (00:03:00) <Seikishi>: sounds like a fighting game ! (00:03:05) <Seikishi>: command throw or attack ! (00:03:10) <@Sp00ky>: he has some semblence of wakeup tricks off his airthrow but it's 'will i jump C or will i land and 214A' (00:03:26) <@Sp00ky>: he has no high/low to speak of

(00:05:48) <@VManOfMana>: question (00:42:25) <@Sp00ky>: It looks cool also. (00:43:07) <@Sp00ky>: And his WC is more for pushing them out so you dont get your face smashed, I guess. Though I thought it was at least even. (00:43:07) <@Dipstick>: but it wasn't guaranteed in the arcade version (00:43:12) <@Dipstick>: you would NEVER see it land (00:43:43) <@Sp00ky>: his 5B doesnt start hitting until late in the animation or something. (00:44:02) <@Sp00ky>: you can't use it to keep any of his wallslam combos going which kind of sucks. (00:44:25) <@Sp00ky>: His 2B is this really wierd anti air (00:44:33) <Seikishi>: sp00ky, lv3 attack = 17f (00:44:36) <@Sp00ky>: that shouldnt work but does cause every time you land it you get counterhit. (00:44:39) <Seikishi>: most 2c = lv3 (including kouma)

Melty Blood: Act Cadenza

General		Controls \| Mechanics \| System Arcanae \| Damage Scaling \| Character Defense Mods \| General Strategy
The Characters		Akiha Tohno \| Akiha Tohno (Vermillion) \| Aoko Aozaki \| Arcueid Brunestud \| Arcueid Brunestud (Red) \| Ciel \| Hisui (and Kohaku) \| Kohaku (and Hisui) \| Kouma Kishima \| Mech-Hisui \| Miyako Arima \| Neko-Arc \| Neko-Arc Chaos \| Nrvnqsr Chaos \| Ren \| Satsuki Yumiduka \| Shiki Tohno \| Shiki Nanaya \| Sion Eltnam Atlasia \| Sion Eltnam Atlasia (Tatari) \| Warakia \| White Ren

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 {{:Kouma Kishima Data (Normals) (MBAC)}}
+Ground throw: 1300/800. Grabs the opponent and pops them up (while setting them on fire). Techable on ground impact.
+Air throw: 1200/600. Slams the opponent on the ground; untechable.
 == Special Moves ==
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 == Strategies, Tactics, and Combos ==
+== Combos ==
+His standard combo is 2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C jump canceled into an air throw. This does a ton of damage for a standard combo at ~3700 damage. If you can start the combo with a 5B or 2B (dropping the 5A), the damage goes up to over 4100. On some characters you may to double jump immediately into the air throw once in the air, so input the throw as 9A+D instead of 6A+D.
+An alternative combo to do (that does more damage but is also more prone to random failure) is 2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C, jump cancel j.C 236B 236B. This does 4000 starting from 2A and 4700 starting from 5B. You can do j.C 236C at the end instead, but that wastes meter to add a whopping 200 extra damage.
+If you land a 2A or 5B in the corner with meter to spare, you can instead do 2A 5B 2B 5C 236C (wallslams) 5A 2B jump cancel air throw. This does 4800 damage starting from a 2A and 5500 damage starting from a 5B. The timing of the 5A after the wallslam is the hardest part of the combo, as it is effectively a three-frame link. Again, on some characters you need to input the throw as 9A+D for it to consistently land.
+When you are in the corner and you land a 214A~4 throw, you can follow up with 5C 2B jump cancel air throw. This does about 3700 damage. The 5C needs to be done late so that they will be low enough for the 2B to hit.
 == Changes Between Aracde and PS2 Versions ==
+* His Last Arc has been sped up now so that people can not block it after the super flash.
 == Raw ==
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 (00:03:10) <@Sp00ky>: he has some semblence of wakeup tricks off his airthrow but it's 'will i jump C or will i land and 214A'
 (00:03:26) <@Sp00ky>: he has no high/low to speak of
-(00:03:42) <@Dipstick>: what are his combos
-(00:03:44) <@ikusat>: his 5b is so wtf
-(00:03:47) <@Dipstick>: (just spit them out quickly)
-(00:03:50) <@Sp00ky>: his 5B is pretty damn good.
-(00:03:53) <@Sp00ky>: sec
-(00:03:53) <@ikusat>: probably liek 2ab5c2c6c throw
-(00:04:16) <@ikusat>: or if you like 2abc5c6c jump jump throw
-(00:04:32) <Seikishi>: speaking of kouma
-(00:04:36) <Seikishi>: he's the boss of nanaya arcade route
-(00:04:42) <@ikusat>: oshi
-(00:04:48) <@Dipstick>: guuooooooooooas for all
-(00:04:55) <Seikishi>: and there is reference to the fight of nanaya kiri vs. kouma kishima
-(00:05:04) <@Sp00ky>: 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C airthrow
-(00:05:05) <@VManOfMana>: lol, infinite screen is funny
-(00:05:05) <@Sp00ky>: 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C j.C 236B 236B
-(00:05:05) <@Sp00ky>: 5B 2B 5C 2C 6C j.C 236C
-(00:05:05) <@Sp00ky>: Opponent near corner:
-(00:05:05) <@Sp00ky>: 5B 2B 5C 236C (wallslam)5A 2B Airthrow
-(00:05:06) <@Sp00ky>: You near corner:
-(00:05:06) <@Sp00ky>: 214A (hold back until wallslam) 5C 2B Airthrow.
 (00:05:48) <@VManOfMana>: question
 (00:42:25) <@Sp00ky>: It looks cool also.