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== Universal Mechanics ==
== Universal Mechanics ==
==Advanced Frame Data==
This table shows the frame data for all of Donkey Kong's non-special moves. Including shield advantage at different timings and cancels.
{| class = "wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|+ Shield Advantage
! move||start||end||lcancelledLandingLag||autoCancelAfter||iasa||missedLcancelLandingLag||totalFrames||damage||shieldstun||bestShieldAdvantage||lcancelledShieldAdvantage||missedLcancelShieldAdvantage||earlyHitAutoCancelledShieldAdvantage||lateHitAutoCancelledShieldAdvantage||earlyHitIASACancelledShieldAdvantage||lateHitIASACancelledShieldAdvantage||earlyHitTotalFramesShieldAdvantage||lateHitTotalFramesShieldAdvantage
|-
|dtilt||6||9||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||22||7||5||-8||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-11||-8
|-
|dtilt||6||9||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||22||7||5||-8||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-11||-8
|-
|dtilt||6||9||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||22||7||5||-8||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-11||-8
|-
|uair||6||8||12||12||38||25||44||14||8||-1||-4||-17||-3||-1||-23||-21||-30||-28
|-
|ftilt_l||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||9||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_l||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||9||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_l||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||9||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_l||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||9||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_h||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||11||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_h||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||11||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_h||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||11||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_h||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||11||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|dashattack||9||12||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||11||6||-36||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-39||-36
|-
|dashattack||9||12||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||11||6||-36||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-39||-36
|-
|dashattack||13||20||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||9||6||-28||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-35||-28
|-
|dashattack||13||20||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||9||6||-28||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-35||-28
|-
|dair||18||23||15||49||N\A||31||54||16||9||-6||-6||-22||-27||-22||N\A||N\A||-27||-22
|-
|dair||18||23||15||49||N\A||31||54||13||7||-8||-8||-24||-29||-24||N\A||N\A||-29||-24
|-
|dair||18||23||15||49||N\A||31||54||13||7||-8||-8||-24||-29||-24||N\A||N\A||-29||-24
|-
|bair||7||8||7||19||32||15||39||13||7||0||0||-8||-10||-9||-17||-16||-25||-24
|-
|bair||7||8||7||19||32||15||39||13||7||0||0||-8||-10||-9||-17||-16||-25||-24
|-
|bair||9||15||7||19||32||15||39||9||6||-1||-1||-9||-9||-3||-16||-10||-24||-18
|-
|bair||9||15||7||19||32||15||39||9||6||-1||-1||-9||-9||-3||-16||-10||-24||-18
|-
|usmash||14||16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||53||18||10||-27||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-29||-27
|-
|usmash||14||16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||53||18||10||-27||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-29||-27
|-
|jab2||4||10||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||6||4||-19||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-25||-19
|-
|jab2||4||10||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||6||4||-19||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-25||-19
|-
|jab2||4||10||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||6||4||-19||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-25||-19
|-
|jab1||5||7||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||24||4||3||-14||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-16||-14
|-
|jab1||5||7||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||24||4||3||-14||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-16||-14
|-
|jab1||5||7||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||24||4||3||-14||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-16||-14
|-
|ftilt_m||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||10||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_m||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||10||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_m||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||10||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|ftilt_m||8||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||33||10||6||-16||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-19||-16
|-
|nair||10||13||10||38||39||20||43||12||7||-3||-3||-13||-26||-23||-21||-18||-26||-23
|-
|nair||10||13||10||38||39||20||43||12||7||-3||-3||-13||-26||-23||-21||-18||-26||-23
|-
|nair||10||13||10||38||39||20||43||12||7||-3||-3||-13||-26||-23||-21||-18||-26||-23
|-
|nair||14||26||10||38||39||20||43||10||6||-4||-4||-14||-23||-11||-18||-6||-23||-11
|-
|nair||14||26||10||38||39||20||43||10||6||-4||-4||-14||-23||-11||-18||-6||-23||-11
|-
|nair||14||26||10||38||39||20||43||10||6||-4||-4||-14||-23||-11||-18||-6||-23||-11
|-
|dsmash||10||13||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||55||16||9||-33||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-36||-33
|-
|dsmash||10||13||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||55||16||9||-33||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-36||-33
|-
|dsmash||10||13||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||55||14||8||-34||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-37||-34
|-
|dsmash||10||13||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||55||14||8||-34||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-37||-34
|-
|fsmash_m||22||23||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||20||10||-21||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-22||-21
|-
|fsmash_m||22||23||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||21||11||-20||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-21||-20
|-
|fsmash_m||22||23||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||19||10||-21||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-22||-21
|-
|fsmash_m||22||23||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||54||18||10||-21||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-22||-21
|-
|utilt||6||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||39||9||6||-22||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-27||-22
|-
|utilt||6||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||39||10||6||-22||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-27||-22
|-
|utilt||6||11||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||39||11||6||-22||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||N\A||-27||-22
|-
|fair||25||26||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-30||-29||N\A||N\A||-25||-24
|-
|fair||25||26||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-30||-29||N\A||N\A||-25||-24
|-
|fair||25||26||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-30||-29||N\A||N\A||-25||-24
|-
|fair||25||26||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-30||-29||N\A||N\A||-25||-24
|-
|fair||27||29||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-28||-26||N\A||N\A||-23||-21
|-
|fair||27||29||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-28||-26||N\A||N\A||-23||-21
|-
|fair||27||29||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-28||-26||N\A||N\A||-23||-21
|-
|fair||27||29||15||59||N\A||30||59||16||9||-6||-6||-21||-28||-26||N\A||N\A||-23||-21
|}
{{Smash Melee}}
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[[Category: Super Smash Bros. Melee]]

Revision as of 21:01, 27 July 2022


Introduction

Donkey Kong combines the gameplay of both a grappler and a zoner, often suffering from the problems of both archetypes and only sometimes benefitting. At his worst, Donkey Kong gets completely stonewalled by opponents who refuse to interact on his terms, comboed extremely hard by much of the cast, and struggles to begin spacing without getting immediately called out. However, in capable hands or against less knowledgeable opponents Donkey Kong can feel nightmarish to fight, both spacing you out and killing you off just a single grab in the same stock. Additionally, while his movement is nothing to write home about, he can be deceptively speedy for a heavyweight character.

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Throw Game - Cargo up throw leads into some of the best throw conversions in the game. It acts as both a combo starter and kill confirm in most matchups and is a huge enabler for Donkey Kong's monster punish game.
  • Large Normals - While the hitboxes themselves are often not meaningfully disjointed, many of Donkey Kong's normals occupy a large space and allow him to contest the range of essentially any other character in the game
  • Edgeguarding - Donkey Kong's Dair, Bair, and Up-b form a trio of moves that cover almost any conceivable edgeguard situation against many popular characters, enabling him to close out stocks on punishes that don't end with a kill confirm
  • Large Hurtbox - In addition to Donkey Kong's hulking size enabling your opponent to pressure you if they so much as sneeze in your general direction, he also has a hurtbox on his tie, so your opponent's don't even actually need to hit you to hit you
  • Long Startup - Many of Donkey Kong's otherwise completely fine normals have incredibly long startup that renders them nigh unusable in many situations
  • Picking a Direction to Face - In order to have a fighting chance against many of Melee's strongest characters, Donkey Kong needs to turn his back to them in order to access his zoning tool and saving grace in the neutral Bair. However, this also often stunts his ability to acquire grabs, which are his main way of acquiring strong punishes on the vast majority of characters
SSBM Donkey Kong Portrait.png
Physics
Weight 114 (2nd)
Fall Speed 2.4/Fast 2.96 (4th/6th)
Gravity 0.1 (12th)
Ground Movement
Walk Speed 1.2 (6th)
Initial Dash Speed 1.6 (9th)
Initial Dash Length 15f (2nd)
Run Speed 1.6 (6th)
Traction 0.08 (7th)
Jumping
Jumpsquat 5f (16th)
Jump Height Full 37.8/Short 13.6/Air 28.968 (4th/13th/8th)
Air Speed 1 (6th)
Air Acceleration 0.04 (25th)


Ground Moves

Aerial Moves

Special Moves

Grabs & Throws

Universal Mechanics

Advanced Frame Data

This table shows the frame data for all of Donkey Kong's non-special moves. Including shield advantage at different timings and cancels.

Shield Advantage
move start end lcancelledLandingLag autoCancelAfter iasa missedLcancelLandingLag totalFrames damage shieldstun bestShieldAdvantage lcancelledShieldAdvantage missedLcancelShieldAdvantage earlyHitAutoCancelledShieldAdvantage lateHitAutoCancelledShieldAdvantage earlyHitIASACancelledShieldAdvantage lateHitIASACancelledShieldAdvantage earlyHitTotalFramesShieldAdvantage lateHitTotalFramesShieldAdvantage
dtilt 6 9 N\A N\A N\A N\A 22 7 5 -8 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -11 -8
dtilt 6 9 N\A N\A N\A N\A 22 7 5 -8 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -11 -8
dtilt 6 9 N\A N\A N\A N\A 22 7 5 -8 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -11 -8
uair 6 8 12 12 38 25 44 14 8 -1 -4 -17 -3 -1 -23 -21 -30 -28
ftilt_l 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 9 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_l 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 9 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_l 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 9 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_l 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 9 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_h 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 11 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_h 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 11 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_h 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 11 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_h 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 11 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
dashattack 9 12 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 11 6 -36 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -39 -36
dashattack 9 12 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 11 6 -36 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -39 -36
dashattack 13 20 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 9 6 -28 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -35 -28
dashattack 13 20 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 9 6 -28 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -35 -28
dair 18 23 15 49 N\A 31 54 16 9 -6 -6 -22 -27 -22 N\A N\A -27 -22
dair 18 23 15 49 N\A 31 54 13 7 -8 -8 -24 -29 -24 N\A N\A -29 -24
dair 18 23 15 49 N\A 31 54 13 7 -8 -8 -24 -29 -24 N\A N\A -29 -24
bair 7 8 7 19 32 15 39 13 7 0 0 -8 -10 -9 -17 -16 -25 -24
bair 7 8 7 19 32 15 39 13 7 0 0 -8 -10 -9 -17 -16 -25 -24
bair 9 15 7 19 32 15 39 9 6 -1 -1 -9 -9 -3 -16 -10 -24 -18
bair 9 15 7 19 32 15 39 9 6 -1 -1 -9 -9 -3 -16 -10 -24 -18
usmash 14 16 N\A N\A N\A N\A 53 18 10 -27 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -29 -27
usmash 14 16 N\A N\A N\A N\A 53 18 10 -27 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -29 -27
jab2 4 10 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 6 4 -19 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -25 -19
jab2 4 10 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 6 4 -19 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -25 -19
jab2 4 10 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 6 4 -19 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -25 -19
jab1 5 7 N\A N\A N\A N\A 24 4 3 -14 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -16 -14
jab1 5 7 N\A N\A N\A N\A 24 4 3 -14 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -16 -14
jab1 5 7 N\A N\A N\A N\A 24 4 3 -14 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -16 -14
ftilt_m 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 10 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_m 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 10 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_m 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 10 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
ftilt_m 8 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 33 10 6 -16 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -19 -16
nair 10 13 10 38 39 20 43 12 7 -3 -3 -13 -26 -23 -21 -18 -26 -23
nair 10 13 10 38 39 20 43 12 7 -3 -3 -13 -26 -23 -21 -18 -26 -23
nair 10 13 10 38 39 20 43 12 7 -3 -3 -13 -26 -23 -21 -18 -26 -23
nair 14 26 10 38 39 20 43 10 6 -4 -4 -14 -23 -11 -18 -6 -23 -11
nair 14 26 10 38 39 20 43 10 6 -4 -4 -14 -23 -11 -18 -6 -23 -11
nair 14 26 10 38 39 20 43 10 6 -4 -4 -14 -23 -11 -18 -6 -23 -11
dsmash 10 13 N\A N\A N\A N\A 55 16 9 -33 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -36 -33
dsmash 10 13 N\A N\A N\A N\A 55 16 9 -33 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -36 -33
dsmash 10 13 N\A N\A N\A N\A 55 14 8 -34 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -37 -34
dsmash 10 13 N\A N\A N\A N\A 55 14 8 -34 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -37 -34
fsmash_m 22 23 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 20 10 -21 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -22 -21
fsmash_m 22 23 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 21 11 -20 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -21 -20
fsmash_m 22 23 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 19 10 -21 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -22 -21
fsmash_m 22 23 N\A N\A N\A N\A 54 18 10 -21 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -22 -21
utilt 6 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 39 9 6 -22 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -27 -22
utilt 6 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 39 10 6 -22 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -27 -22
utilt 6 11 N\A N\A N\A N\A 39 11 6 -22 N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A N\A -27 -22
fair 25 26 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -30 -29 N\A N\A -25 -24
fair 25 26 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -30 -29 N\A N\A -25 -24
fair 25 26 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -30 -29 N\A N\A -25 -24
fair 25 26 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -30 -29 N\A N\A -25 -24
fair 27 29 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -28 -26 N\A N\A -23 -21
fair 27 29 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -28 -26 N\A N\A -23 -21
fair 27 29 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -28 -26 N\A N\A -23 -21
fair 27 29 15 59 N\A 30 59 16 9 -6 -6 -21 -28 -26 N\A N\A -23 -21

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