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Enders

Every combo that ends with S3.2 has the following possible enders:

Ender	Notes
S3.2 xx S2.1/S2.2	Damage ender without OD
S3.2 xx S3.2	Slightly less damage than the above. Knocks down right in front of you. Sideswaps.
S3.2 xx OD	Max damage ender. Sideswaps.
S3.2 xx S1.1 charge	Mixup ender. This starts your Snare Oki.

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Damage range is between no followups and S3.2 xx OD enders. (TODO: Update damage & stun to reflect no followup as the lower end)

Combo	Position	Damage	Stun	Difficulty	Notes
jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	322-430	497	Easy	Standard bnb that sets up Snare Oki.
jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → airgrab, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	326-434	508	Easy	Airgrab variation
jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	416-524	603	Easy	1 bar extension.
jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	419	615	Easy	Alternative extension. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but uses 1 more juggle point so have to go for Snare Oki.
(jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	273-381	358	Easy	Standard jL or S3.2 jumpin combo.
(jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	363-471	453	Easy	1 bar extension.
S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	263-371	329	Easy	Command grab bnb. Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	271-379	344	Very hard	Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	218-326	279	Easy	Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender	Midscreen	226-334	294	Very hard	Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
[S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 → Ender	Anywhere	252-382	285	Very Easy	Meterless charged grab route
[S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender	Anywhere	356-464	402	Easy	1 bar charged grab bnb.
[S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Aithrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender	Anywhere	360	413	Easy	Alternative route. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but have to go for Snare Oki.
S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 xx S3.2/OD	Anywhere	327-382	345-285	Easy
[S2.1], S3.2 xx S3.2/OD	Anywhere	405-500	380-300	Very Easy	Doing anything fancier scales the damage further.

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-Damage range is between S3.2 xx S2.1 & S3.2 xx OD enders. (TODO: Update damage & stun to reflect no followup as the lower end)
+Damage range is between no followups and S3.2 xx OD enders. (TODO: Update damage & stun to reflect no followup as the lower end)
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 !  Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Stun !! Difficulty !! Notes
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-| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 376-434 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Standard bnb that sets up Snare Oki.
+| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 322-430 || 497 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Standard bnb that sets up Snare Oki.
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-| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 457-524 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar extension.
+| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → airgrab, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 326-434 || 508 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Airgrab variation
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-| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || ?? || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Alternative extension. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but uses 1 more juggle point so have to go for Snare Oki.
+| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 416-524 || 603 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar extension.
 |-
-| (jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || ?? || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Standard jL or S3.2 jumpin combo.
+| jH → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 419 || 615 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Alternative extension. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but uses 1 more juggle point so have to go for Snare Oki.
 |-
-| (jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || ?? || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar extension.
+| (jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → Airthrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 273-381 || 358 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Standard jL or S3.2 jumpin combo.
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-| S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 313-375 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} || Command grab bnb. Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
+| (jL xx) S3.2 → clH xx clH xx 6H → 2M xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 363-471 || 453 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar extension.
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-| S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 321-379 || ??? || {{clr|4|Very hard}} || Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
+| S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 263-371 || 329 || {{clr|3|Easy}} || Command grab bnb. Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
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-| Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 268-330 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} || Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
+| S1.1 xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 271-379 || 344 || {{clr|4|Very hard}} || Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
 |-
-| Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 276-334 || ??? || {{clr|4|Very hard}} || Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
+| Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 218-326 || 279 || {{clr|3|Easy}} || Can omit the clap if it's awkward for you.
 |-
-| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 327-382 || ??? || {{clr|6|Very Easy}} ||  Meterless charged grab route
+| Throw xx KA6 → clH xx 6H → clH xx S3.2 → Ender || Midscreen || 226-334 || 294 || {{clr|4|Very hard}} || Not recommended. Land the first clap at the highest you can. Do the second clap as late as possible. In the corner this is very easy since it doesn't require dashing.
 |-
-| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 398-464 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar charged grab bnb.
+| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 252-382 || 285 || {{clr|6|Very Easy}} ||  Meterless charged grab route
 |-
-| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Aithrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 398-464 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Alternative route. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but have to go for Snare Oki.
+| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 356-464 || 402 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  1 bar charged grab bnb.
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-| S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 327-400 || ??? || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||
+| [S1.1], 4M xx S3.2 xx S2.1 xx KA9 → Aithrow, f.L xx S3.2 → Ender || Anywhere || 360 || 413 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||  Alternative route. Gets S2.1 off cooldown, but have to go for Snare Oki.
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-| [S2.1], S3.2 xx S3.2/OD || Anywhere || 405-500 || ??? || {{clr|6|Very Easy}} || Doing anything fancier scales the damage further.
+| S2.1 xx KA6 → 2M xx S3.2 xx S3.2/OD || Anywhere || 327-382 || 345-285 || {{clr|3|Easy}} ||
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+| [S2.1], S3.2 xx S3.2/OD || Anywhere || 405-500 || 380-300 || {{clr|6|Very Easy}} || Doing anything fancier scales the damage further.
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