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  |description= Great jump-in overall, has a large amount of hitstun for easy combos. crosses up.
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|description=Saizo summons a frog that shoots a projectile and a bird that flies across the screen. Button strength determines speed of bird and frog.
 
Has some situational anti-air and combo usage. Can loop light version in the corner.
 
<nowiki>#</nowiki>Bird's Revenge: Trade with a projectile, Saizo will take some damage and frog will be cancelled but the bird will continue across the screen while Saizo is free to move.
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Revision as of 20:42, 8 December 2022

Introduction

Saizo Tobikageno is a ninja seeking revenge for the slaughter of his clan.

Overview

Saizo is primarily a zoner but he has the ability to switch rapidly between strong zoning and strong offense. The ability to threaten both amplify the effectiveness of each.

  • For zoning, his kunai shut down other projectiles and his bombs, though not fullscreen, recover much faster than any other projectile. Couple this with very good reach on his jumping C attacks as air to airs or his 623P swords to keep opponents out.
  • For offense, his dash into jump forward C is difficult to deal with and using dashing grounded attacks he can keep a large amount of pressure, even from half screen. Due to his lack of a good overhead, going for a crossup or going back to bomb zoning are likely options.

If you do manage to get in on him he has above average defense and is very difficult to stun, making him quite durable. 214A breaker is easily hit confirmable into super and hair super can punish a wide array of moves on block (and sometimes on hit), making Saizo a difficult opponent to break down.

Saizo
Strengths Weaknesses
  • Overall matchup spread is the best, crushes the lower tiers
  • 236A (Kunai) goes through other projectiles and has fast recovery
  • 236C (Bomb) knocks down and has the fastest projectile recovery
  • Above average defense + Highest stun resistance make him very durable
  • Fast dash that is cancellable attacks and jumps
  • Big reach on his sword attacks
  • 236236K punishes extremely well due to half screen reach and very short startup
  • Invincible backdash
  • B knee has great range and low pushback, allowing it to combo into itself many times
  • 214A needs to be cancelled into super to be safe, limiting his breaker game
  • Anti-airs are more situational, requiring more matchup knowledge
Saizo
[[File:BR{{{filename}}}Victory.png|center]]
Defense 128
Stun 3456

Move List

Normals

Standing

5A
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Pretty standard jab. Range is pretty good and it is your fastest button.


5B
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

This move hits really far away for some reason, can be combo into itself, and can be canceled into hair as a super setup. It can also go to cr.a, cr.d for a knockdown.


5C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - -
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Long reaching sword, leaves Saizo at a large disadvantage. This is a strong poke tool but is more of a niche move that needs to be used with caution.


5D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - -
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

A very slow kick after Saizo steps forward. This should only come out if you input close D too far away.

Crouching

2A
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

This doesn't hit low, but it is a fantastic poke and combo tool. Can be used as an anti-air.


2B
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Low.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Low toe poke, great range and part of your BnB combos. Moves Saizo's hurtbox back and down enough low profile some moves.


2C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Low.png - Knockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Very long range sweeping sword knockdown. Poor recovery but very useful for punishes or counter poking thanks to the reach.


2D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Low.png - Knockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Shortest range of your heavy normals but it is the safest and has an strong hitbox at the tip.

Close

5C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Low.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

This move hits low for some reason and combos easily. Can be safe if canceled with bomb.


5D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Huge hitbox, requires a little timing but it is very useful for anti-airs. Also serves as a good meaty or frame trap choice. Important part of BnBs, giving higher stun and damage and keeping combos from being breakable.

Beware of accidentally getting far D.

Neutral Jumping

nj.A
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Long reaching sword poke extending down slightly. Very reliable for controlling space in front of Saizo for situations where nj.C might whiff.


nj.B
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Saizo shifts forward in the air and does a light kick. Allows for some air control after neutral jump.


nj.C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Massive sword attack that hits over a giant area with high priority. It goes parallel to the ground and stays out for a long time. Great zoning tool.


nj.D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Similar to nj.B but more damage and it doesn't move forward.

Diagonal Jumping

dj.A
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Fast air chop with the Sword. Stick to dj.C.


dj.B
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Stays out for an eternity, but use at the last minute to combo afterward. Crosses up.


dj.C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Big air chop with the sword. Hits very deep below Saizo, if you do it deep enough it will avoid many invincible type anti-air moves. Use a direction to add in Airthrow attempts.


dj.D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Similar move to dj.B but fewer active frames and more hitstun. Allows for easier combo and less chance of Breaker Throw. Crosses up.

Command Normals

5BD
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- High.png - -
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Must be blocked high, cannot be comboed after, uncancellable. Slow overhead, but Saizo doesn't have any other grounded overheads and it cannot be breakered inbetween hits.


2BD
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Low.png - Specialcancel.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

A slide that travels far and knocks down. Must be blocked low. If it hits or is blocked early on, it can be canceled for safety. Use out of dash for a full screen low. Low profile on the slide allows escapes that dash does not.

Throws

4/6C
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- - - Throw.pngKnockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Use 4/6CD as a throw OS to get cl.D or throw. Combo off cl.D into 623C.


Jump, 4/6C/D
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- - - Airthrow.pngKnockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Threat of either dj.C or Airthrow is strong.

Specials

236P
SaizoKnives.gif
Kunai
SaizoBombs.gif
Bomb
236A Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Proj.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

qcf+LP, throws two knives at once. They can cut through fireballs if they are already out on the screen. When most fireballs are starting up they will negate both knives. Incredibly fast and an excellent chipping tool.

236C Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Proj.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Extremely fast bomb (faster than kunai) that knocks down. Arcs downwards, so it cannot go fullscreen but this also means it cannot be low profiled like most other projectiles can. Knocking down means you generally win big on fireball trades. Up closer this also provides a safer special cancel on block, though doing it off a light will likely be breakable.

Can be comboed after with fire super, but he has better options for comboing into super. The explosion resulting from the bomb when it hits the ground can hit the opponent.


214P
SaizoHair.gif
Hair
214A Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Startupinv.pngSupercancel.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Light hair is invincible and leads to Hair Super with an easy hit confirm. Generally this shouldn't be used unless you plan to cancel into super as it can be unsafe on hit.

214C Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Supercancel.pngKnockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Slower version, doesn't provide true combos and has no invincibility but at least it knocks down. Avoid using this move unless your opponent refuses to breaker it.


623P
SaizoSword.gif
Sword
623A Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Supercancel.pngKnockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Saizo makes a huge circle with his sword that hits multiple times. No invulnerability but good anti-air if done as a prediction due to its massive range. Easy combos to super.

Provides a huge area to anti-air with but can be beaten clean by some jumping moves.

623C Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Supercancel.pngKnockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

HP version is slower to start up and moves Saizo forward slightly, but launches higher and hits 5 times instead of 4.

Supers

236236P
SaizoBirdfrog.gif
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Proj.pngHardknockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Saizo summons a frog that shoots a projectile and a bird that flies across the screen. Button strength determines speed of bird and frog.

Has some situational anti-air and combo usage. Can loop light version in the corner.

#Bird's Revenge: Trade with a projectile, Saizo will take some damage and frog will be cancelled but the bird will continue across the screen while Saizo is free to move.


214214P
SaizoFire.gif
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Proj.pngHardknockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Saizo summons a pillar of flames in front of him. Light version is always directly in front of Saizo, Heavy version tracks the opponent. In combos it is fine to always use the Heavy version.

This is the preferred damage super for juggles.


236236K
SaizoCombo.gif
Damage Guard Stun Properties
- Mid.png - Hardknockdown.png
Startup Active Recovery Adv. Hit Adv. Guard
- - - - -

Saizo dashes and performs an auto combo. Extremely fast startup and range is approximately half-screen, speed and range allows this move to be an extremely good punisher when used as a breaker.

This is your preferred damage super for grounded combos, cancel out of light hair. If used in a juggle, the damage will be significantly lower.

Combos

  • Meterless Combos
    • cr.B x2, cl.st.C xx Sword Move - This is Saizo's bread and butter combo. Great to use after a crossup.
    • cr.B x2, Slide (d + LK + HK) - This combo is good when you are too far away for close st.C to hit. The slide can be canceled early into a bomb for safety. You can mash this combo out very quickly before waiting to verify if the cr.B's hit.
    • cr.B x2, cr.A, cr.D - This is Saizo's bread and butter combo when he is too far away to be able to cancel slide into bomb for safety or when you didn't get a chance to verify if the cr.B's hit or not. It could be useful to stop this combo at cr.A and end your blockstring there if it is blocked.
    • st.B xn, cr.A, cr.D - Knockdown from connected st.B's.
  • Combos with meter
    • cr.B/cr.A xn xx Hair (LP version) xx Combo Super - Saizo's basic combo into super.
    • st.B xn xx Hair (LP version), Combo Super - Another basic combo into super.
    • cr.B x2, cl.st.C xx Sword Move, Fire Super - Saizo's most damaging super combo. Learn to land this at every opportunity.
    • Anti-air Sword Move, Flame Super/Birdfrog - Use Flame Super if anti-air the opponent up close, use Birdfrog if you anti-air the opponent at range.
    • Anti-air Sword Move, Birdfrog x3 - Corner combo only, and basically a showoff combo. It isn't really worth the meter unless it will kill. Use LP version of Birdfrog. Very difficult to space on the fly.
    • Anti-air Hair (LP version) xx Flame Super/Birdfrog/Combo Super - Any super will connect after an anti-air LP Hair, but the height and distance you hit the opponent at determines what super will land the best. Flame Super/Birdfrog are the easiest to land for the maximum number of hits and damage, with Birdfrog being easier to hit with but much less damaging than Flame Super. The Combo Super will hit, but since it is hitting versus an aerial opponent it will do much less damage than if you had used it on the ground. Use the Combo Super when you have used the invulnerability from LP Hair to let your opponent land before you have hit them with the Hair.
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Be careful to link all hits as tightly as possible or your combo will be easily breakered.

Advanced Strategy

  • Saizo can instantly block by holding back during his dash. Use the dash to pressure.
  • Knives can lock opponents down because they can be thrown incredibly fast. Don't be afraid to spam knives from full screen. If you anticipate a jump, use sword move to knock them out of the air and combo into your fire super. If you're spamming knives and want to fake out the opponent you can use a st.A, which can trick the opponent into jumping where you can sword move them on reaction. If you have a blocked vertical jump C, you can follow it up with knives to push them across the screen.
  • For zoning, ending blockstrings in bomb is a good idea. Cr.b x2, slide xx bomb is a good pressure string. In general you want to push the opponent away from you so you can zone them until you score a knockdown.
  • Saizo has tricky crossups with his j.B and j.D. You can score them off knockdowns by using Saizo's huge dash-jump range to clear over half a screen length. After a knockdown you can also dash repeatedly and cancel the dash with a vertical jump straight up with a j.B at the end of it. The momentum from his dash combined with the forward movement of his vertical jump B will make it a crossup. Dont be afraid to rejump after a blocked crossup against charge characters or characters with bad anti-airs because Saizo's air moves have excellent priority.
  • Saizo's best punish combo is close st.C, sword move, flame super. Punish every chance you get. Be careful on punishing with far st.C because it can be punished on hit easily and you will die for using it against a non-airborne. Instead, try cr.C, slide, bomb, or just dry sword move if you have time.
  • Saizo's st.B can be repeated a lot and will eventually combo to hair and then super. This move is fast and moves Saizo's hitbox very quickly, so you can breaker with it and get damage!
  • Holding onto 1 meter for breakers and punishes is recommended.

Matchups

Matchup Table

Advantage
Great Maherl, Condor, Alsion III
Good Pielle, Dao-Long, Rila, Tia
Even
Weak Sho
Bad

Matchup Info

Alsion III

Condor
Be careful comboing Condor because he can breaker you with a 360 or 720 if you are too slow on your links. He can slide under your knives but not under your bomb. Vertical jump C can be beaten by Condor's st.D. Jumping back with j.C is good but mainly throwing bombs is key to winning this. Overall this matchup is very favorable to Saizo, but if you get cornered or caught in the air the match can quickly turn.

Dao-Long
If he ends a combo with A+C or a fireball, you can breaker it with combo super and hit him. Be careful against his jump ins because your anti-air options are not good. Crossups can lose badly to his upkicks, so be careful. Throw knives at his fireballs. His air moves can go toe-to-toe with you.

Maherl

Pielle
Be careful on meaty crossups and jump ins because Thunder Riser will suck you in and do damage to you. Even without meter, Pielle can st.C many of Saizo's jumping attacks. Approaching from the ground is preferable in this match up. Be careful following him if he jumps back, because he can do his air ABC and smack you.

Rila
Rila can hop over your fireballs and combo you into super. Be careful on when you throw fireballs. Her st.C will beat your crossups and her upkicks can screw your meaties up. Only jump backwards if Rila doesn't have a charge because she can follow you with her dash move that will do a ton of damage.

Saizo
Rush him down.

Sho
He had projectile advantages, remember If he throws a fireball, knife it. Don't jump in too much because of flamekicks. Be careful on meaties because of flamekicks.

Tia
Knife her fireball. She can uppercut super through your knives. If she throws a fireball from close you can breaker and do combo super.

Game Navigation

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Sho
Pielle
Condor
Rila
Tia
Alsion III
Maherl
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