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{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Standing Medium Punch | mp | 10+2 | - | 8 | 60 | 6 | 4 | 7 | +8/+9 | }} | {{SF2HFMoveListRow | Standing Medium Punch or Kick | mp or mk | 10+2 | - | 8 | 60 | 6 | 4 | 7 | +8/+9 | }} | ||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Standing Hard Punch | hp | 14+4 | - | 14 | 80 | 8 | 6 | 19 | -2/-1 | }} | {{SF2HFMoveListRow | Standing Hard Punch or Kick | hp or hk | 14+4 | - | 14 | 80 | 8 | 6 | 19 | -2/-1 | }} | ||
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{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Light Punch | d + lp | 4+0 | - | 4 | 40 | 5 | 4 | 4 | +6/+7 | specialcancel }} | |||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Medium Punch | d + mp | 10+2 | - | 8 | 60 | 6 | 4 | 7* | +8/+9 | }} | |||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Hard Punch | d + hp | 14+4 | - | 14 | 80 | 8 | 6 | 19* | -2/-1 | }} | |||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Light Kick | d + lk | 7 | - | 4 | 40 | 6 | 4 | 5 | +5/+6 | low}} | |||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Medium Kick | d + mk | 10 | - | 8 | 60 | 6 | 4 | 7 | +8/+9 | low }} | |||
{{SF2HFMoveListRow | Crouching Hard Kick | d + hk | 14 | - | 8 | 130 | 8 | 21 | 14 | KD/-11 | low knockdown }} | |||
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Revision as of 16:06, 13 April 2012


Vega
A Spanish cage fighter who uses a unique style of ninjutsu.
Known as Vega outside of Japan, Balrog in Japan, or Claw as an unambiguous pseudonym.
In a nutshell
Vega is one of the fastest characters in the Street Fighter series, and also one of the most fragile. His strength is in long-range attacks, with the reach advantage provided by his claw, his speed and jumps. His weakness is his defense.
Character Specific Information
Color Options
Default | Start |
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Moves List
Note: All frame data gathered by using the method described at http://code.google.com/p/macrolua/wiki/FrameDataExamples. Some differs from TAkiba's, and is noted by a *.
Damage values after a + indicate bonus damage when Vega has his claw.
Normal Moves
- Standing Normal Moves (st.)
- Crouching Normal Moves (cr.)
Unique Moves
Throws
Special Moves
The Basics
The goal with Vega is to use his unparalleled speed and range to keep your opponent away. His lack of any 'get off me' move combined with low stun bar mean that once an opponent has you cornered or knocked down, you are at immense disadvantage. Vega also has no reliable way of dealing with tick throws.
His jump is fast (especially in an already fast game like Hyper Fighting), which is an advantage, but must not be overused.
Advanced Strategy
From Apoc:
I guess one thing I could say is learn to use your rolls properly. This is never used the way it should be generally. People need to think of their rolls as attacks in time. People generally roll at random from far away or when they know it will combo or be blocked. But those are really attacks flying at someone and the final stab is HUGE on damage and has good priority.
The opponent can't tell which roll you are doing everytime. Learn those ranges. Like a fun thing I like to do with the Jab roll is to space myself a bit a way so that when I roll I will still be out of their sweep range AND they can't jump anywhere at that point because the jab ends fast. When you roll like this, a smart player will notice he can't sweep you(and at this range it trades with DPs and such since they meet at the top, and it stuffs just about every special when the tip is landing) and he can't walk into you unless he has a greatly timed DP so most will opt for jumping and crossing Vega up while he rolls...at worst, they figure, they'll end up following and tripping the final stab from behind. They second they leave the ground they get hit with the jab stab for huge damage and stun and Vega's on top of them to boot.
I'll jab roll at Bison or Blanka if I have it ranged that by the time they notice to react my stab will be fully extended, knocking it clean. The roll can be its' own bait as well. It's perfect for nailing those who like to jump straight up(properly timed...but am I supposed to explain everything?). Also learn when to throw it out. You can't JUST roll at anyone. There are delays in Vega's roll that are counter-bait. When someone gets up and you do a deep forward x'2,(this should be strong or jab)this next move is going to be a 2in1 of some sort to maintain pressure. However, if you do it like a normal 2in1 everytime, the opponent will counter the final stab clean, making you roll shy. There are all sorts of ways to offset the timing of a roll. I used to just hit jab and THEN roll. THe stab would hit under the DP. And ppl with Vega experience will do that. You can walk forward into roll and make them want to counter you "throw" attempt as it becomes a roll. But never do the same roll patterns or use the same 2in1 timing. Changing that makes the move much more scary.
Just really understand the roll. I think it's rarely used how it should be and it should be "vega basics", ya know? Um...and have a real gameplan for character vs.character That's always good:P
General keep-away:
Crouching Jab and standing Fierce (when you have the claw) are your two main tools for keeping the opponent out. Jab RCF is useful at the right range to stop opponents from jumping.
Anti-airs:
Your main go-to anti air attacks are Strong (if you have claw), neutral jumping Roundhouse, or a anticipatory airthrow. Even a Jab RCF can be a good anti air if spaced well.
Combos
- Bread And Butter
- j.HK, cr.MK, cr.MP
- RCF, cr.HP
- cr.MK, cr.MK, cr.LP
- Meaty Combos
- meaty cr.MK, cr.MK, cr.MP
- Crossup Only
- crossup j.HK, cr.MK, cr.MK, cr.LP
Match-ups
- Vs. Balrog (boxer):
- Vs. Blanka:
- Vs. Chun-Li:
- Vs. Dhalsim:
- Vs. E. Honda:
- Vs. Guile:
- Vs. Ken:
- Vs. M. Bison (dictator):
- Vs. Ryu:
- Vs. Sagat:
- Vs. Vega (claw) (self):
- Vs. Zangief:
Keeping him out with standing Fierce, neutral jumping Fierce and standing Strong is incredibly vital. Once he gets in or knocks you down, it's all over, since Vega has no way to deal with his tick grabs. Play as lame-keep-away as you possibly can.
Slide can be useful to deal with his slow lariats, but beware the fast ones which are low invincible.
Hitboxes
Standing Normals
- Standing Jab/Short:
Damage+claw | 4+0 | File:Sf2hf-claw-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-slp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-slp.png | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-sup1.png |
Stun | 1~7 | |||||
Stun Timer | 40 | |||||
Chain Cancel | No | |||||
Special Cancel | Yes | |||||
On Hit | +5 | |||||
Frame Count | 2 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 1 | |
Simplified | 4 | 4 | 5 |
Standing Jab and Standing Short are identical in frame data and hitboxes. Reach with the claw on is no further, but hitbox extends slightly higher/lower/back past Vega's head.
- Standing Strong/Forward:
Damage+claw | 10+2 | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-smp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-smp.png | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png |
Stun | 5~11 | |||
Stun Timer | 60 | |||
Chain Cancel | No | |||
Special Cancel | No | |||
On Hit | +8 | |||
Frame Count | 5 | 4 | 7 |
Standing Strong and Standing Forward are identical in frame data and hitboxes. Without claw, this move has considerably less range than s.LP, and is in fact vulnerable at the tip.
- Standing Fierce/Roundhouse:
Damage+claw | 14+4 | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-shp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-shp.png | File:Sf2hf-vega-startup+recovery.png |
Stun | 11~17 | |||
Stun Timer | 80 | |||
Chain Cancel | No | |||
Special Cancel | No | |||
On Hit | -2 | |||
Frame Count | 7 | 6 | 19 |
Standing Fierce and Standing Roundhouse are identical in frame data and hitboxes. Without claw, less vulnerable to jumpins, but considerably less range.
- Crouching Jab:
Damage+claw | 4+0 | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-sup4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-clp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-rec2.png |
Stun | 1~7 | |||||
Stun Timer | 40 | |||||
Chain Cancel | No | |||||
Special Cancel | Yes | |||||
On Hit | +6 | |||||
Frame Count | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 4 | |
Simplified | 4 | 4 | 4 |
Having claw only extends hitbox behind Vega's shoulders.
- Crouching Strong:
Damage+claw | 10+2 | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-sup4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-cmp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-cmp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-rec2.png |
Stun | 5~11 | |||
Stun Timer | 60 | |||
Chain Cancel | No | |||
Special Cancel | No | |||
On Hit | +8 | |||
Frame Count | 5 | 4 | 7* |
Considerably smaller hitbox without claw.
- Crouching Fierce:
Damage+claw | 14+4 | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-sup4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-chp+claw.pngFile:Sf2hf-claw-chp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clp-rec2.png |
Stun | 11~17 | |||
Stun Timer | 80 | |||
Chain Cancel | No | |||
Special Cancel | No | |||
On Hit | -2 | |||
Frame Count | 7 | 6 | 19* |
Enormous range with claw. Over half screen.
- Crouching Short:
Damage | 7 | ![]() |
File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup3.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup5.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-rec2.png |
Stun | 1~7 | ||||||
Stun Timer | 40 | ||||||
Chain Cancel | No | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
On Hit | +5 | ||||||
Frame Count | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 5 | |
Simplified | 5 | 4 | 5 |
Crouching short hitboxes and frame data are identical with or without claw.
- Crouching Forward:
Damage | 10 | ![]() |
File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup3.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup5.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-cmk.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-rec2.png |
Stun | 5~11 | ||||||
Stun Timer | 60 | ||||||
Chain Cancel | No | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
On Hit | +8 | ||||||
Frame Count | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 7 | |
Simplified | 5 | 4 | 7 |
Crouching forward hitboxes and frame data are identical with or without claw.
- Crouching Roundhouse:
Damage | 14 | ![]() |
File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-sup3.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-chk.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-clk-rec2.png |
Stun | 5~11 | |||||
Stun Timer | 130 | |||||
Chain Cancel | No | |||||
Special Cancel | No | |||||
On Hit | KD | |||||
On Block | -11 | |||||
Frame Count | 3 | 2 | 2 | 21 | 14 | |
Simplified | 7 | 21 | 14 |
A long slide across the ground which knocks down. Crouching roundhouse hitboxes and frame data are identical with or without claw. Amusingly, unlike all other crouching attacks, no claw is shown during the active frames of the c.RH animation even when the player still has the claw.
Aerial normals
- Neutral Jumping Jab/Short:
Damage | 8 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-jab.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 1~7 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 1 | 1 | 20 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 2 | 20 | ∞ |
- Neutral Jumping Strong/Forward:
Damage | 12 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-mp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 5~11 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 1 | 1 | 10 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 2 | 10 | ∞ |
- Neutral Jumping Fierce/Roundhouse:
Damage | 16 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-hp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 11~17 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 2 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 4 | 5 | ∞ |
- Diagonal Jumping Jab/Short:
Damage | 7 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-dj-lp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 1~7 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 1 | 1 | 20 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 2 | 20 | ∞ |
- Diagonal Jumping Strong/Forward:
Damage | 10 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-dj-mp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 5~11 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 1 | 2 | 10 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 3 | 10 | ∞ |
- Diagonal Jumping Fierce/Roundhouse:
Damage | 14 | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-dj-hp.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-sup1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-nj-fall.png |
Stun | 11~17 | ||||||
Stun Timer | ? | ||||||
Special Cancel | No | ||||||
Frame Count | 2 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | ∞ | |
Simplified | 4 | 5 | ∞ |
Unique Moves
- Wall Jump: Jump towards wall, then press away from wall
File:Sf2hf-claw-walljump.png | |
Frame Count | 6 |
Throws
Vega can throw with Strong and Fierce, and has an Airthrow with Strong or Fierce.
- Rainbow Suplex: (←/→ + Strong/Fierce)
Damage | 28 | File:Sf2hf-claw-throw.png | |
Stun | 7~13 | ||
Stun Timer | 99 | ||
Range (from axis) | 48 | ||
Range advantage | 19 |
Both punch throws are the same.
- Stardust Drop (a.k.a. air throw): (←/→ + Strong/Fierce) while airbourne
Damage | 28 | File:Sf2hf-claw-airthrow.png | |
Stun | 7~13 | ||
Stun Timer | 100 | ||
Range (from axis) | 58 | ||
Range advantage | 29 |
Both punch throws are the same.
Special Moves
- Rolling Crystal Flash: (Charge ←, →, P)
Startup:
File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-supf1-5.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-supf6-10.png | |
Frame Count | 5 | 5 |
Simplified | 10 |
Active part 1:
- Jab Version: This does not occur.
- Strong Version: This happens only once.
- Fierce Version: This happens 2 times.
Damage (Jab) | 4,4 | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-af1-4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-af5-7.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-aef8-10.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-aef11-13.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-supf6-10.png |
Damage (Strong) | 4,4 | |||||
Damage (Fierce) | 4,4 | |||||
Stun | 0~6,0~6 | |||||
Stun Timer | 30,30 | |||||
- | - | |||||
Frame Count | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | |
Simplified | 4 | 6 | 1 | 2 |
Active part 2:
Damage (Jab)+claw | 4,4 | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-aef1-4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-af5-7.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-aef8-10.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-aef11-13.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-recf5.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-recf1-4.png |
Damage (Strong)+claw | 4,4 | ||||||
Damage (Fierce)+claw | 4,4 | ||||||
Stun | 0~6,0~6 | ||||||
Stun Timer | 30,30 | ||||||
Frame Count | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | |
Simplified | 4 | 6 | 3 | 4 |
Damage (Jab)+claw | 16+10 | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-ff1-8.png File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-ff1-8-noclaw.png |
Damage (Strong)+claw | 16+10 | |
Damage (Fierce)+claw | 18+10 | |
Stun | 13~19 | |
Stun Timer | 130 | |
Frame Advantage | +9 | |
Frame Count | 8 |
Recovery:
File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-recf1-4.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-rcf-recf5.png | ||
Frame Count | 4 | 1 | |
Simplified | 5 |
A point blank fierce roll is usually blockable after the second hit. Depending on positioning, the second hit of both active part 1 and 2 are capable of hitting low (i.e. Fierce RCF contains 3 possible low hits). However, after hitting low in this fashion, the opponent being in hitstun long enough for the rest of the roll to connect is even more position dependent.
- Flying Barcelona Attack: (Charge ↓, ↑, K), P for claw attack, or any direction + P for Izuna drop
- Claw attack (vs ground):
Damage (Short)+claw | 16+6 | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-ca-f1-3.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-ca-f4-10+claw.png File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-ca-f4-10.png |
Damage (Fwd)+claw | 18+6 | ||
Damage (RH)+claw | 20+6 | ||
Stun | 13~19 | ||
Stun Timer | 120 | ||
Frame Adv | -12 | ||
Frame Count | 3 | 10 |
- Claw attack (air-to-air):
As above, except
Stun | 11~17 |
Stun Timer | 80 |
Frame Adv | KD |
- Izuna drop:
Damage | 28 | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-iz-f1-2.png |
Stun | 7~13 | |
Stun Timer | 99 | |
Frame Count | 2 |
Recovery:
File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-rf1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-rf2-3.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-rf1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-rf6-15.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-fba-rf16-17.png | |
Frame Count | 1 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 2 |
Simplified | 17 |
Vega jumps to the wall, clings briefly as in his walljump, then jumps towards the opponent. After touching the wall, Vega's arc is controllable with ← and →.
For the Claw attack, the initial kick button pressed (NOT the punch button) determines the damage dealt. Hitting a grounded opponent near the head with the Claw attack leaves you at considerable disadvantage, less so when hitting deeper (best case is -1f). Hitting an airbourne opponent with the Claw attack results in a knockdown.
The Izuna drop leaves plenty of time to set up a safe jump or meaty attack.
- Backslash (a.k.a backflip): (Jab + Strong + Fierce)
Invincible:
Recovery:
File:Sf2hf-claw-bflip-rec1-9.png | |
Frame Count | 9 |
Vega's sole move with invincibility. Unfortunately it's slow enough that most opponents can simply chase Vega down and punish the considerable recovery, or at the very least keep the pressure on. Generally an unfavourable option.
Misc Animations
Walk back | Neutral | Walk Fwd | Crouch |
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- Standing reel:
File:Sf2hf-claw-hr1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-hr2.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-hr3.png |
- Standing gut reel:
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- Crouching reel:
File:Sf2hf-claw-cr1.png | File:Sf2hf-claw-cr2.png |
- Dizzy:
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- Knockdown bouncing pushbox:
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Frame Count | 9 |
For some reason, Vega has a series of knockdown frames with an elevated pushbox. This allows his opponent (character dependent?) to walk "through" a knocked down Vega, which can be very annoying
Miscellaneous
Technical info about Claw's claw
General | Game Mechanics | Strategy | Tiers | |
The Characters | Balrog (Boxer) | Blanka | Chun-Li | Dhalsim | E. Honda | Guile | Ken | M. Bison (Dictator) | Ryu | Sagat | Vega (Claw) | Zangief |