Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo/Dee Jay

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Introduction

Dee Jay is, and always has been, really, secretly very good in Super Turbo. He has very few seriously disadvantageous matchups and has many that are in his favor. His mixup and pressure games are strong, his zoning pressure is excellent against most characters, and he's overall well-rounded. He's a very dangerous character who has a lot going for him, offensively and defensively. Not to mention he has tons of combos!
--Murderbydeath 01:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

New & Old Versions Comparison

To select O.Dee Jay, choose Dee Jay and then press ↓ ↓ ↑ ↑ Jab/Fierce, pressing Short simultaneously with the punch button for the alternate color.

Here is the list of differences:

• Obvious stuff: O.Dee Jay can not tech throws, does not have the Jackknife Maximum (upkicks) and Super;
• O.Dee Jay has a slower pre-jump animation by 2 frames;
• O.Dee Jay has some differences in some of his normals:
  • Crouching Jab has better priority downward;
  • Crouching Strong can be special canceled;
  • Far Standing Short has better priority;
  • Far Standing Forward second hit has better priority;
  • Close Standing Roundhouse has a much fatter hitbox but it has a little less vertical priority as a anti air;
  • Diagonal Jumping Strong animates like N.Dee Jay's Diagonal Jumping Fierce with a fatter hitbox but with worse air to ground priority;
  • Diagonal Jumping Fierce animates like N.Dee Jay's Diagonal Jumping Strong;
  • Diagonal Jumping Forward has better air to air priority but does not have crossup properties;
  • Neutral Jumping Roundhouse has a fatter hitbox but worse priority;
  • Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse becomes active 1 frame later, but has an additional 4 frame hitbox while his leg is pointed upward, so it has more active frames;
• O.Dee Jay's Max Outs / Air Slashers have a 3 frame worse recovery, this is bad;
• O.Dee Jay's Machine Gun Upper does less damage overall, but has anti aerial properties in its startup, and lacks a hurtbox at his center which allows him to dodge some faster or meaty fireballs;

O.Dee Jay is a waste of time... his lack of a proper crossup and anti airs really hurts him and he does not receive anything back... Only an MGU that can evade meaty projectiles... And he even has worse Max Outs... Not worthy.

Color Options

Jab	Strong	Fierce	Start	Old
Short	Forward	Roundhouse	Hold	Old Alternative

--Born2SPD

Move Analysis

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

• Close Standing Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Far Standing Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Crouching Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Close/Far Standing Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes/No
Super Cancel	Yes/No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?
Simplified		?	?		?

• Crouching Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?

• Close Standing Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?	?	?

• Far Standing Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	1
Simplified		?			?		?

• Crouching Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes/No
Super Cancel	Yes/No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?		?

• Close Standing Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Far Standing Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Crouching Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	Yes
Special Cancel	Yes
Super Cancel	Yes
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?

• Close Standing Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

• Far Standing Forward:

Damage	?+?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?	?

• Crouching Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?	?

• Close Standing Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?	?	?	?	?

• Far Standing Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

• Crouching Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Super Cancel	No
Frame Advantage	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?		?

Aerial Normals

• Neutral/Diagonal Jumping Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	∞

• Neutral Jumping Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?	?		∞

• Diagonal Jumping Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?		∞

• Neutral Jumping Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

• Diagonal Jumping Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

• Neutral Jumping Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	∞

• Diagonal Jumping Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	∞

• Neutral Jumping Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

• Diagonal Jumping Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

• Neutral Jumping Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

• Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?			?	∞

Command Normals

• Knee Shot: (Jump diagonally, ↙/↓/↘ + Short)

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		?	∞

Throws

Dee Jay can throw using Strong, Fierce, Forward and Roundhouse. The direction of the joystick determines the direction the enemy gets thrown at. All his throws have the same range and do 32 points of damage (plus two more if behind in rounds).

• Funky Shout Throw: (←/→ + Strong/Fierce)

Damage	32
Stun	7~13
Stun Timer	100
Range (from axis)	48
(from throwable box)	18

• Monkey Flip: (←/→ + Forward/Roundhouse)

Damage	32
Stun	7~13
Stun Timer	100
Range (from axis)	48
(from throwable box)	18

Special Moves

All motions are listed under the assumption that Dee Jay is facing right.

• Max Out / Air Slasher: (Charge ←, →, P)

Detailed Input: (Charge ← for at least 61f, [0~7f] → [0~10/9/7f] Jab/Strong/Fierce. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the P button)

• Startup:

Super Meter	4
Frame Count		3	2	2
Simplified		7

• Active:
• Jab Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		1	3	10	1...
Simplified		34

• Strong Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		1	2	9	1...
Simplified		34

• Fierce Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		1	1	6	1...
Simplified		34

Dee Jay's Projectile. During the first active frames it has a quite fat hitbox, but some frames after it becomes slimmer (allowing Blanka to slide under it). Jab Version's hitbox stays bigger for 14 frames, Strong for 12 and Fierce for 8. Punch strength also determines the speed and damage. O.Dee Jay have 3 frames of additional recovery on this move.

• Double Rolling Sobat: (Charge ←, →, K)

Detailed Input: (Charge ← for at least 61f, [0~7f] → [0~10/9/7f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the K button)

• Short Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	8
Frame Count		?	8	2	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?

Frame Count	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

• Forward/Roundhouse Versions:

Damage (Frwrd)	?+?
Damage (Rh)	?+?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	8
Frame Count (Frwrd)		?	5	2	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Frwrd)		?			?
Frame Count (Rh)		?	5	2	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Rh)		?			?

Frame Count (Frwrd)	?	?	?	5	2
Simplified (Frwrd)	?
Frame Count (Rh)	?	?	?	5	2
Simplified (Rh)	?

Frame Count (Frwrd)	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Frwrd)	?				?
Frame Count (Rh)	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Rh)	?				?

Short version hits once, Forward and Roundhouse versions hit twice.

• Machine Gun Upper: (Charge ↓, ↑, P. Press P repeatedly)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↓ for 61f, [0~7f] ↑ [0~10/9/7/2f] Jab/Strong/Fierce/any P if you are at a jumpable state. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the P button. The mash part requires a P input every 2f? to combo)

• Full mashing:

Damage (Jab)	?		File:DeeJay mgu2anm.png	File:DeeJay mgu3anm.png		File:DeeJay mgu4anm.png
Damage (Strng)	?
Damage (Frc)	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	7
Frame Count (Jab)		?	?	?		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Jab)		?	?		?		?	?	?
Frame Count (Strng)		?	?	?		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Strng)		?	?		?		?	?	?
Frame Count (Frc)		?	?	?		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Frc)		?	?		?		?	?	?

• Without mashing:

Damage (Jab)	?		File:DeeJay mgu2anm.png
Damage (Strng)	?
Damage (Frc)	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	7
Frame Count (Jab)		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Jab)		?	?				?	?
Frame Count (Strng)		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Strng)		?	?				?	?
Frame Count (Frc)		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified (Frc)		?	?				?	?

This move is one of the strangest in the game. Proper technique is required to get the full four hits of the move to combo. Piano tap all three punches until you see the third hit connect, and then STOP.

• Jackknife Maximum a.k.a. Up Kicks: (Charge ↓, ↑, K)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↓ for 61f, [0~7f] ↑ [0~10/9/7/2f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse/any K if you are at a jumpable state. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the K button)

• Short Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	9
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

• Forward Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	9
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Frame Count	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?	?

• Roundhouse Version:

Damage	?
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Super Meter	9
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Frame Count	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?	?					?

Frame Count	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

Forward and Roundhouse versions are juggleable. Short version hits once, Forward version hits twice, Roundhouse version hits three times. Can juggle with super after for two more hits.

Super Move

• Sobat Carnival: (Charge ←, → ← → K)

Detailed Input: (Charge ← for at least 60f, [0~6f] → [0~6f] ← [0~6f] → [0~12f] K)

Damage	?*4
Stun	?~?
Stun Timer	?
Frame Count		1 + [18] + 1	3	10	1	1	1	1
Simplified		15			4

	File:DeeJay super8&25.png	File:DeeJay super9&26.png	File:DeeJay super10&27.png	File:DeeJay super11&28.png	File:DeeJay super12&29.png
Frame Count	1	1	4	7	2
Simplified	15

			File:DeeJay super15&33.png	File:DeeJay super16&34.png
Frame Count	1	1	2	2	2	3	3	3
Simplified	4			13

Frame Count	1	1	1	1
Simplified	4

	File:DeeJay super8&25.png	File:DeeJay super9&26.png	File:DeeJay super10&27.png	File:DeeJay super11&28.png	File:DeeJay super12&29.png	File:DeeJay super30.png
Frame Count	1	1	4	4	3	1	2
Simplified	16

		File:DeeJay super15&33.png	File:DeeJay super16&34.png	File:DeeJay super35.png
Frame Count	1	9	9	7
Simplified	10		16

The Basics

Dee Jay's basic game is one of patience, zoning, and punishing when they try to get in. Keep them at a distance with max outs, and when they try to come at you, have an upkicks ready for their face. Then you go for a cross-up, and from there you have many, many options. The most important things to remember are that Dee Jay has great normals that beat most normals in the game, tons of invulnerability on short upkicks (if you're not confident in your timing of other versions), crossup mixup games will debilitate most opponents if they guess wrong even once, and overall patience.
--Murderbydeath 01:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Advanced Strategy

In terms of "Advanced" strategy, Dee Jay has quite a few tricks up his sleeve, especially off of his crossup game. If your opponent blocks your crossup correctly, that is only the beginning of the guessing game, as you have many options after your j.forward. You can tick into throw off of 1 or 2 jabs, 1 jab 1 short, 1 short, or go for another crossup; you can even fake tick into another crossup. Dee Jay has infinite possibilities for mixup off of his crossup, and this is where his true strength lies, even though it can be very difficult to get in on him (low strong, low forward, standing strong, standing roundhouse, crouching fierce, upkicks, max out--all great at keeping your opponent at a distance). Make your opponent work to get in, and when he does, punish him for doing so, then mix him up until he has no idea what's coming next. A good meaty mixup is close standing forward, low forward. If timed properly it combos (it even combos non-meaty, but is more difficult). Next time, do meaty close standing forward -> tick throw. Next time, walk up standing short -> throw. Then walk up standing short, crossup forward into crossup mixup. The possibilities are endless.
--Murderbydeath 01:32, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Combos

• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab, c.short xx MGU (all 4 hits, often dizzies, punishes throw mashers)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.fierce xx MGU (all 4 hits, punish combo)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab x2, s.strong xx RH sobat (second hit connects randomly; sometimes dizzies)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.short, close st.short, s.strong xx Max out
• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab x2 xx MGU (all 4 hits)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab x2, c.short xx max out (creates space)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab, c.fierce xx MGU (only works on standing opponents, HUGE damage)
• Cross-up j.forward, c.jab x2, c.short xx RH upkicks -> super (only works on standing opponents)
• Close s.forward, c.forward (great meaty combo, string into low RH to create space or a knockdown or whatever you want, really)
• j.RH, c.fierce, sobat
• j.RH, s.strong, sobat
• j.jab, c.jab, c.short xx max out
• Super, forward/RH upkicks (2 hits)

--Murderbydeath 00:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Attack Info and Frame Data

Legend: ^ invulnerability, * hitting frames

Normals

Close standing jab: 4 4* 1
Far standing jab: 5 4* 4
Standing strong: 4 8* 1
Close standing fierce: 7 4* 2 5* 5
Far standing fierce: 7 9* 8
Crouching jab: 3 3* 1
Crouching strong: 6 6* 4
Crouching fierce: 5 12* 6
Jumping jab (neutral or diagonal): 2 ∞* (stays out all the way down)
Neutral jumping strong: 3 18*
Neutral jumping fierce: 5 6*
Diagonal jumping strong: 6 12*
Diagonal jumping fierce: 7 14*

Close standing short: 4 4* 1
Close standing forward: 7 6* 1
Close standing roundhouse: 4 4* 2 6* 7
Far standing short: 5 4* 3
Far standing forward: 7 3* 8* 7
Far standing rounhouse: 10 5* 13
Crouching short: 5 4* 5
Crouching forward: 7 6* 6
Crouching roundhouse: 9 6* 15
Neutral jumping short: 2 ∞*
Neutral jumping forward: 6 14*
Neutral jumping roundhouse: 7 10*
Diagonal jumping short: 2 ∞*
Diagonal jumping forward: 6 14*
Diagonal jumping roundhouse: 5 8*

Command normals

Knee shot (j.down+short): 2 ∞* (stays out all the way down)

Specials

Jab max out: 8 startup, 33 recovery
Strong max out: 8 startup, 33 recovery
Fierce max out: 8 startup, 33 recovery
Short sobat: 14^ (lower invulnerability) 10 25*
Forward sobat: 4^7 (4 lower invuln) 4* 13 15* 16
Roundhouse sobat: 4^7 (4 lower invuln) 4* 13 15* 18
Jab MGU: 4^ (upper invuln) 7* 7* 11* 4* 25
Strong MGU: 5^ (upper invuln) 7* 7* 11* 4* 25
Fierce MGU: 6^ (upper invuln) 7* 7* 11* 4* 25
Short upkicks: 6^6*^ (all 12 frames are invincible, 6 startup, 6 active) 30
Forward upkicks: 5^3*^ 14 4* 26
Roundhouse upkicks: 4^2*^ 8 4* 10 6* 29

Super

1^ 18^ 13^ 4^* 15 4* 13 4* 16 10* 16

Match-ups

Matchups classified with this diagram in mind. For the old characters I guessed the positions.

--Born2SPD

Serious Advantage Match-ups

Vs. Blanka:

• 7.5 - 2.5

This match is similar to the Honda match below. It's an easy match unless Blanka is able to cross you up with his godly j.short. Use your max-outs to keep him away; he won't be able to slide under easily like he would against Guile; he can still do it, but it isn't easy. His main option is to jump at you with his far reaching j.RH, which can be beat with DJ's slide. If you block a ball, s.RH will punish it.

Vs. Cammy:

• 8 - 2

Vs. E. Honda:

• 8.5 - 1.5

E. Honda is an easy match for DJ; his best in the game. Just shoot out those FBs. The fatness of both Honda's ass and DJ's max-outs works in favor of DJ. For anti-air, his slide works wonders. Use it against his buttdrops too. Jump RH also works when Honda is on his way up way up.

Diagonal jump jab BEATS HIS HEADBUTT! Remember this. You can jump away to safety if he gets in too close. C.fierce also beats the headbutt.

Remember, although you have a major advantage, if he knocks you down in the corner, you are screwed, unless you can pull off a reversal after his tick -> oicho; however, you have to watch out, as many Hondas will mix it up with low short xx buttflop.

Vs. Fei Long:

• 7.5 - 2.5

Vs. T. Hawk:

• 7 - 3

Advantage Match-ups

Vs. M. Bison (dictator):

• 6.5 - 3.5

Fair Match-ups

Vs. Guile:

• 4.5 - 5.5

This is a good match for DJ; it's slightly in DJ's favor. DJ can counter a lot of Guile's main attacks: slides go under sonic booms, c.strong can beat his c.forward. Keep pressuring him up close using c.strongs, c.shorts and c.RH.

Vs. Ken:

• 5 - 5

See Ryu.

Vs. Sagat:

• 4.5 - 5.5

Vs. Zangief:

• 4.5 - 5.5

Two words: BE CAREFUL. This is a much harder match than it seems; it is very unstable. If he gets in, you are dead. If he stays out, he's dead. Simple enough, eh?

Keep him out with max-outs. Trip his lariats with your slide. If he jumps, use the many AA tools at your disposal. Not much too it, but don't get complacent! You normals do not have the reach of Guile, so the slides much be used wisely. Fire a FB into the lariat before it ends instead of using the slide when you see fit. c.strong can beat some of his low normals and c.fierce can beat his s.forward.

If he is able to get in on you, pray. DJ does not have a reliable reversal other than his super; he may have a sonic boom, but he sure as hell doesn't have a flashkick. He will tick you to death. A short sobat can beat his low normals. Use this to get you out of or avoid this bad situation.

Disadvantage Match-ups

Vs. Chun-Li:

• 3.5 - 6.5

Vs. Vega (claw):

• 4 - 6

Serious Disadvantage Match-ups

Vs. Balrog (boxer):

• 3 - 7

Vs. Dhalsim

• 2 - 8

This is a tough match, but it is winnable. Use max-outs to trade with yoga fires. Stay at a distance and beat his limbs with C.strong and c.fierce. You can also try to jump over his fires and kick him with DJ's long reaching j.RH. If he tries to use his drills, s.strong can beat them. If he gets knocked down, you can go for a cross-up or safe jump jab. Dhalsim's only reversal, other than super, is his teleport, so his wakeup defense isn't that great.

Vs. Ryu

• 3 - 7

The shotos can give DJ some problems. You will need to be the aggressor in this match. You will need to use your Max-outs, using slides in between to gain ground. When in place, a j.RH over a FB will kick him right in the face. Make sure to time this. Once you’re in, trip him and then go for a cross-up; if you connect with your j.forward, you have several options (see combos). If not, you also have several options: jab x1, tick throw; jab x2, tick throw; jab, short, tick throw; whiff st.jab tick throw; st.short, cross-up j.forward; st.short, tick throw. This is Dee Jay's basic mixup, and it must be utilized to its full potential when capitalizing on getting in on Ryu. Also, c.strong will beat shoto c.forwards; in fact, it beats nearly all shoto low moves (sans low strong). If you get in a fireball trap, note that his short upkick can go through FIERCE fireballs.

Vs. O. Sagat

Short sobats and short upkicks are good for going over low tigers. After you get in, do what you would do against the shotos.

X-static (Jan 6, 2008)