Street Fighter IV/Gen

Move Analysis

Combos

When it comes to combos, Gen has plenty of options due to his multiple stances. In this section we will review the best possible punishes and also some of the more flashy combos that gen has in his arsenal

PPP Mantis Combos

1. S.MK xx HP Hands thread on shoryuken

Difficult move to pull off when you first attempt it, this move is debatable as to whether it is Bread and Butter combo or not. Why should you use it? Well first off it gives the best poke gen has (rangewise) more to work with, here are a little stats from the shoryuken thread, credit goes to Mnszyk for the data

This is why you should do Medium Kick xx Fierce Hands:

Medium Kick 70 damage, 100 stun, 40 meter Your opponent will be pushed ~4 training room squares in the other direction High priority, long range Block Advantage: -2 Hit Advantage: +2

Medium Kick xx Fierce Hands 134 damage, 180 stun, 110 meter Your opponent will be pushed ~18 training room squares in the other direction. At max range, you'll advance yourself about ~9 squares for free. Armor Breaking - Your opponent will never be able to safely focus your pokes if you do this Block Advantage: +5 Hit Advantage: +9

Almost doubled damage and stun, the ability to push your opponent around like crazy, nearly triple meter, armor breaking, and high safety ... what would you weigh that against?

As you can see, there are plenty of reasons to MKhands. It allows you to effectively zone and punish whiffs that Gen normally could not. He can also use it to punish things like (list is still growing) Blocked Shoto Roundhouse Close Range tiger shot Close range fireball (Shotos) MP or HP Headbutt (Honda) Punish rekkas (fei or abel) early rolls by abel wheel kicks (abel) TAP (Balrog)

This combo alone gives him the ability to increase his zone, whereas most of the combos gen has have to be up in your face, this lets him start the pressure and force the issue with opponent.

So How do you do it?

There are many different manners of doing it, first thing is first let's break down how the combo works

MK itself has 5 frames of startup which is not too bad at all, but the active frames are only 3, so within these active frames you have to get hands out. At first this may seem like a daunting task because....

Hands requires 5 P button inputs to activate. So in practice you can hit any P button 5 times and Hands will come out (this must be done rapidly). What aids this process is that any combination of P buttons can be used and the 5th one will determine the strength of the hands (with HP being the best). Being able to piano the inputs would be the best method here but there are different ways to get MK hands to come out:

SecretCharacter's method My method of doing it is; Lp+Mk, then piano from right to left, Fp, Mp, Lp, Fp (Notice how he uses LP+MK, when this input is done the higher button input will come out and the lower button input will still be recorded)

Kruldar's Method video links Piano Method Slide Method

B izm's method LP+MKx2, LP MP HP

SLVRNBLK's method Same as the piano but with 2 fingers on mp (middle and ring) so that you can drum that button twice

FROM MK hands you can also cancel the first three hits of hands to another mk hands or mk super. The mk hands to mk hands works in block strings as well.

Frame Data

Street Fighter IV

				frames	frames			super meter
move Name	startup	active	total	adv.blk	adv.hit	damage	stun	gain	block	chain	special	super	comments
MANTIS STYLE
LP	3	3	15	-1	1	30	50	20	HL	O	O	O	-
MP	4	5	22	2	6	70	100	40	HL	X	O	O	Far version: 80 damage
HP	5	2*4	27	-7	1	80*60	100*100	40*20	HL	X	O	O	Forces stand, only 1st hit is cancelable
LK	5	4	21	-3	-2	30	50	20	HL	X	X	O	Far version: 40 damage
MK	5	3	27	-2	2	70	100	40	HL	X	O	O	-
HK	8	2	29	-4	0	110	200	60	HL	X	X	X	-
crouch LP	4	2	13	1	4	30	50	20	HL	O	O	O	-
crouch MP	7	4	21	-1	1	70	100	40	HL	X	O	O	-
crouch HP	7	4	29	-5	-1	100	200	60	HL	X	X	X	-
crouch LK	5	4	16	-1	2	30	50	20	L	O	O	O	Low attack
crouch MK	7	3	26	1	3	70	100	40	L	X	O	O	Low attack
crouch HK	8	3	38	-13	-	10	200	60	L	-	-	-	Low attack, cannot quick stand
jump LP	4	7	-	-	-	40	50	20	H	-	-	-	-
jump MP	5	5	-	-	-	70	100	40	H	-	-	-	-
jump HP	6	4	-	-	-	100	200	60	H	-	-	-	-
jump LK	5	8	-	-	-	40	50	20	H	-	-	-	Straight jump: 30 damage
jump MK	4	8	-	-	-	70	100	40	H	-	-	-	Straight jump: 80 damage
jump HK	6	3	-	-	-	100	200	60	H	-	-	-	-
Focus Attack Lvl1	21	2	57	-21	-21	60	100	20	HL	-	-	-	-
Focus Attack Lvl2	18+11	2	-15	-	-	90	150	40	HL	-	-	-	-
Focus Attack Lvl3	65	2	101	-	-	150	200	60	-	-	-	-	-
F+LP+LK	3	2	24	-	-	130	100	40	0.95	-	-	-	Throw range: 0.95
B+LP+LK	3	2	24	-	-	120	100	40	1.05	-	-	-	Throw range: 1.05
Hyakurenkou LP	5	3xN	48	5	9	16xN	20xN	30/10xN	HL	X	X	O	Armor break, (translate)
Hyakurenkou MP	4	3xN	41	5	9	16xN	20xN	30/10xN	HL	X	X	O	Armor break, (translate)
Hyakurenkou HP	4	3xN	40	5	9	16xN	20xN	30/10xN	HL	X	X	O	Armor break, (translate)
Hyakurenkou EX	4	3xN	40	5	9	16xN	20xN	-	HL	X	X	O	Armor break, (translate)
Gekirou LK	7	15	45	-35	-	100*10x4*20	80*10x5	30(20)/40*20x5	HL	X	X	X	Strike invincible: frames 1-4, (translate)
Gekirou MK	7	15	45	-35	-	100*10x5*40	80*10x6	30(20)/40*20x6	HL	X	X	X	Strike invincible: frames 1-4, (translate)
Gekirou HK	7	15	47	-35	-	100*10x6*90	80*10x6*80	30(20)/40*20x7	HL	X	X	X	Strike invincible: frames 1-4, (translate)
Gekirou EX	7	15	47	-35	-	100*10x6*90	80*10x6*80	-	HL	X	X	X	Strike invincible: frames 1-4
Zanei	6	16	87	-61	-	20x5*80	0	-	HL	-	-	-	Invincibility frames: LP 1-11 / MP 1-8 / HP 1-5, armor break, (translate)
Zetsuei	11	11	78	-49	-	15x12*225	0	-	HL	-	-	-	Invincible: frames 1-10, armor break
Switch Style	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
CRANE STYLE
LP	4	3	18	-3	-1	30	50	20	HL	O	O	O	-
MP	23	2*2	48	-3	1	50*50	50*50	20*20	HL	X	X	X	Overhead
HP	22	2*4	46	-5	0	100*100	100*100	40*20	HL	X	X	X	1st hit is low, 2nd hit forces stand
LK	8	4	23	-2	-1	40	50	20	HL	X	X	O	-
MK	7	4	32	-5	-1	80	100	40	HL	X	X	X	-
HK	5	3*2	40	-6	-2	80*70	100*100	40*20	HL	X	X	X	-
crouch LP	4	2	16	-2	1	40	50	20	HL	X	O	O	-
crouch MP	5	4	28	-10	-8	90	100	40	HL	X	O	O	-
crouch HP	21	5	41	-3	1	180	300	60	HL	X	X	X	-
crouch LK	5	6	26	-8	-	30	50	20	L	X	X	O	Low attack, (translate)
crouch MK	8	3	31	-3	-1	80	100	40	L	X	X	O	Low attack
crouch HK	5	2	43	-21	-17	120	150	60	HL	X	X	X	-
Jump LP	4	7	-	-	-	50	50	20	H	-	-	-	-
Jump MP	4	5	-	-	-	90	100	40	H	-	-	-	Straight jump: 80 damage
Jump HP	5	7	-	-	-	110	200	60	H	-	-	-	Straight jump: 100 damage
Jump LK	4	9	-	-	-	40	50	20	H	-	-	-	-
Jump MK	4	8	-	-	-	80	100	40	H	-	-	-	Straight jump: 90 damage
Jump HK	6	3	-	-	-	100	200	60	H	-	-	-	-
Shakudan	-	2	-	-	-	50	50	20	H	-	-	-	Pursuit property
Focus Attack Lvl1	21	2	57	-21	-21	60	100	20	HL	-	-	-	-
Focus Attack Lvl2	18+11	2	65	-15	-	90	150	40	HL	-	-	-	-
Focus Attack Lvl3	65	2	101	-	-	150	200	60	-	-	-	-	-
F+LP+LK	3	2	24	-	-	130	100	40	0.95	-	-	-	Throw range: 0.95
B+LP+LK	3	2	24	-	-	120	100	40	1.05	-	-	-	Throw range: 1.05
Jasen LP	6	3*1*4	43	-3	1	20*20*80	50*50*50	35/10x2*30	HL	X	X	O	Hits 1-3 cancelable
Jasen MP	6	3*3*1*4	59	-3	1	20x3*80	50x4	35/10x3*30	HL	X	X	O	Hits 1-4 cancelable
Jasen HP	6	3*3*3*1*4	74	-3	1	20x4*80	50x5	35/10x4*30	HL	X	X	O	Hits 1-5 cancelable
Jasen EX	6	3*3*3*1*4	74	-3	1	20x4*80	50x5	35/10x4*30	HL	X	X	O	Projectile invincible: frames 1-45, hits 1-5 cancelable
Oga	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Oga EX	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	(Translate)
Oga Stop	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Oga Close	15	Until ground	-	-	-	100	150	30/90	-	-	-	-	Armor break, (translate)
Oga Far	14	Until ground	-	-	-	100	150	30/90	-	-	-	-	Armor break, (translate)
Oga Ceiling	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Oga Ceiling Drop	11	Until ground	-	-	-	100	150	30/90	-	-	-	-	Armor break, (translate)
Oga Super Close	11	Until ground	-	-	-	100	150	30/90	-	-	-	-	Armor break, (translate)
Jakoha	11	19	60	-	-	300	0	-	-	-	-	-	Invincibility frames: LK 1-12 / MK 1-8 / HK 1-5, pursuit property
Ryukoha	11	8	71	-	-	150*248	-	-	-	-	-	-	Invincible: frames 1-11, pursuit property
Switch Style	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
move Name	startup	active	total	adv.blk	adv.hit	damage	stun	gain	block	chain	special	super	comments
				frames	frames			super meter