Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo/O. E. Honda: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 08:12, 24 December 2011

Introduction

Why pick Old Honda? Old Honda loses ST Honda's 360 grab mixups, but gains important things as well:

Regains his standing sweep kicks
Has better ground fierce attacks
Retains moving handslap

So the basics are HF-style grabby-into-slappy mixups.

Picking Old E.Honda

To select O.E.Honda, choose E.Honda and then press ↑ ↑ ↑ ↓ Jab/Fierce, pressing Short simultaneously with the punch button for the alternate color.

Normal	Secondary

--Born2SPD

Moves Analysis

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

Close/Far Standing Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?

Crouching Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?

Close/Far Standing Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Crouching Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Close/Far Standing Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?


Frame Count	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

Crouching Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes
Frame Count		?	?	?
Simplified		?		?


Frame Count	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

Close Standing Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	Yes
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?

Far Standing Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Crouching Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Close Standing Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?

Far Standing Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Crouching Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?	?

Close Standing Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?


Frame Count	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

Far Standing Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?

Crouching Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?	?	?

Aerial Normals

Neutral Jumping Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?			?	∞

Diagonal Jumping Jab:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?			?	∞

Neutral Jumping Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?


Frame Count	?	?	?	∞
Simplified	∞

Diagonal Jumping Strong:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?
Simplified		?		?	?


Frame Count	?	?	?	∞
Simplified	∞

Neutral/Diagonal Jumping Fierce:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Neutral Jumping Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Diagonal Jumping Short:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	∞
Simplified		?		∞

Neutral Jumping Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Diagonal Jumping Forward:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Neutral Jumping Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse:

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	∞
Simplified		?		?	∞

Command Normals

Double Knee Attack: (On ground and close, ←/→ + Forward)

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?
Chain Cancel	No
Special Cancel	No
Frame Count		?	?	?	?	?
Simplified		?			?	?


Frame Count	?	?	?	?
Simplified	?

Flying Sumo Press: (Jump diagonally, ↙/↓/↘ + Forward)

Damage	?
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	?

Frame Count		?	?	∞
Simplified		?		∞

Throws

E.Honda can throw using Strong, Fierce and Roundhouse. All his throws have the same range, which happens to be the best normal throw range in the game.

Tawara Nage: (←/→ + Strong)

Damage	?(+?)
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	100
Range (from axis)	64
Range advantage	36

E.Honda tosses the opponent. The direction of the joystick determines the direction the enemy gets tossed at. Better used in the rare cases where you find yourself cornered and want to corner the opponent.

Saba Ori: (←/→ + Fierce)

Damage	? + ?*n
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	0
Range (from axis)	64
Range advantage	36

This is the throw you will be using the most. It's untechable, does nice damage, and sets up crossup / walk under / tick shenanigans. You can even crossup / walk under when in the corner after a fierce grab (you can walk under, cr. RH for a crossup, or go for a crossup d + Forward, cr.Jab, Oicho, etc). Note that some characters (Balrog, Cammy, DeeJay, Vega, Fei Long) cannot be walked under outside of the corner.

Sekkan Kyaku: (←/→ + Roundhouse)

Damage	? + ?*n
Stun	?-?
Stun Timer	0
Range (from axis)	64
Range advantage	36

E.Honda's knee bash. The only use I see in this throw is for throw mashing (so an HHS will not come out) because the Fierce throw gives you a better positioning when the opponent releases himself from the grab.

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 ==Introduction==
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+''Why pick Old Honda?''  Old Honda loses ST Honda's 360 grab mixups, but gains important things as well:
+*Regains his standing sweep kicks
+*Has better ground fierce attacks
+*Retains moving handslap
-While growing up in Japan he always admired the art of sumo wrestling and he hoped to one day become the greatest sumo wrestler of all time. He spent the rest of his life dedicated to sumo, and eventually received the second-highest title of Ōzeki (the highest title is Yokozuna). He also acquires his own dojo where he teaches his students about discipline and respect for your opponent, which Honda believes are the marks of a true sumo wrestler. At some point, he went searching for worthy opponents of other fighting disciplines to prove that sumo wrestlers are the greatest fighters in the world. During this quest he was challenged by Sodom to join Mad Gear. Honda fought Sodom, won, and declined his invitation. He also fought Ryu at least once, and told Sakura (and maybe Juni found out from him, too) where to find Ryu. It is rumored that he teamed-up with Zangief to help take down the Shadaloo. He found some of the Dolls in the wake of Shadaloo's destruction that had amnesia due to the explosion and couldn't even remember their own names. He took pity on them, and brought them to his dojo, where they could be taken care of. He told them that they could leave if they wished once they regained their memory. Some time later he resumed his quest to prove the superiority of sumo in the fighting arts. It was at this time that he began actively competing in the World Warrior tournament. His star pupils at the time were Hatonoyama, Marunoumi, Yasuhanada, and Nishinofuji. He's still a sumo wrestler, as always. And training his
+So the basics are HF-style grabby-into-slappy mixups.
-students, of course.
 ===Picking Old E.Honda===

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo/O. E. Honda: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 08:12, 24 December 2011

Introduction

Picking Old E.Honda

Moves Analysis

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

Aerial Normals

Command Normals

Throws

Special Moves

The Basics

Advanced Strategy

Match-ups