Gouken Super and Ultra Counters (SFIV): Difference between revisions

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This table explains how you can counter/punish Ultras on reaction (that is, if you essentially mash your response during the Ultra cinematic startup.) "EX HK" is EX Hurricane Kick (QCB+KK). For fireball supers like Ryu's and Dhalsim's, the Counter will avoid the entire Ultra (except for the first hit) if you are at point blank range. If you're further away, the counter-hit will still come out, but you will proceed to eat some more damage from the ultra.

**What do I do about this Ultra/Super?**
Character	Super		Ultra		Notes
Character	Counter	EX HK	Counter	EX HK
CAMMY	Low	Yes	Low	Yes	Super: Only EX HK from one character width away. Ultra: Only EX HK from one jump length away.
BLANKA	High	Yes	*	No	Ultra: Counter Low at point blank range, High for all others. At long range, throw a Jab Hadoken.
C. VIPER	High	Yes	No	Yes	Super: Can EX HK after the first 2 hits. Ultra: Can EX HK after the ground pound.
DHALSIM	High	Yes	High	Trades
FEI LONG	High	Yes	High	Yes	You can also do this between the 4th and 5th hit.
GUILE	High	Yes	High	Yes	You can also do this between the 2 flip kicks.
ABEL	No	Yes	No	Yes
M.BISON (Dictator)	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
RUFUS	High	Yes	High	Yes
RYU	High	Yes	High	Yes
AKUMA	No	?	No	?
BALROG (Boxer)	No	Yes	No	Yes	Ultra: Can block 4 hits, then EX HK
CHUN LI	No	No	No	Yes	Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
DAN	No	No	Yes	Yes	Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze. Or block until the last uppercut and Counter High/EX HK.
E.HONDA	No	Yes	No	No
EL FUERTE	High	Yes	No	Yes	In the air HK/EX HK will also work against his Ultra.
GOUKEN	No	EX HK	No	EX HK
KEN	No	No	No	Yes	Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
ROSE	High	Yes	No	No	Ultra: Hold up or EX Demon Flip.
SAGAT	No	No	Yes	Yes	Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
SAKURA	Low	Yes	No	No
SETH	?	?	?	?
VEGA (Claw)	*	*	No	No	Super can be Countered High or EX HK'd if he goes for the stab.
ZANGEIF	No	?	No	?
GEN (Mantis)	No	No	No	No
GEN (Crane)	No	No	No	No	Hold up or EX Demon Flip.

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+This table explains how you can counter/punish Ultras on reaction (that is, if you essentially mash your response during the Ultra cinematic startup.)  "EX HK" is EX Hurricane Kick (QCB+KK).  For fireball supers like Ryu's and Dhalsim's, the Counter will avoid the entire Ultra (except for the first hit) if you are at point blank range.  If you're further away, the counter-hit will still come out, but you will proceed to eat some more damage from the ultra.
-|+ '''Can Gouken Counter It?'''
-|- style="background:black; font-weight:bold; color:white;"
+{| border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse; width:75%"
-! Character !! Super !! Ultra
+|+ '''What do I do about this Ultra/Super?'''
+|- style="background:black; font-weight:bold; color:white; text-align:center;"
+| rowspan="2" | Character || colspan="2"| Super || colspan="2"| Ultra || Notes
+|- style="background:gray; color:white; text-align:center;"
+| Counter || EX HK || Counter || EX HK ||
 |-
-| ABEL || No || No
+| CAMMY || Low || Yes || Low || Yes || Super: Only EX HK from one character width away. Ultra: Only EX HK from one jump length away.
 |-
-| AKUMA || No || No
+| BLANKA || High || Yes || * || No || Ultra: Counter Low at point blank range, High for all others. At long range, throw a Jab Hadoken.
 |-
-| BALROG (Boxer) || No || No
+| C. VIPER || High || Yes || No || Yes || Super: Can EX HK after the first 2 hits. Ultra: Can EX HK after the ground pound.
 |-
-| BLANKA || Yes || Yes
+| DHALSIM || High || Yes || High || Trades ||
 |-
-| C. VIPER || Yes || No
+| FEI LONG || High || Yes || High || Yes || You can also do this between the 4th and 5th hit.
 |-
-| CAMMY || Yes || Yes
+| GUILE || High || Yes || High || Yes || You can also do this between the 2 flip kicks.
 |-
-| CHUN LI || Yes || 2nd Hit
+| ABEL || No || Yes || No || Yes ||
 |-
-| DAN || Yes || Yes
+| M.BISON (Dictator) || Yes || Yes || Yes || No ||
 |-
-| DHALSIM || Close || Close
+| RUFUS || High || Yes || High || Yes ||
 |-
-| E.HONDA || Yes || No
+| RYU || High || Yes || High || Yes ||
 |-
-| EL FUERTE || Yes || No
+| AKUMA || No || ? || No || ? ||
 |-
-| FEI LONG || Yes || Yes
+| BALROG (Boxer) || No || Yes || No || Yes || Ultra: Can block 4 hits, then EX HK
 |-
-| GEN (Mantis) || No || No
+| CHUN LI || No || No || No || Yes || Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
 |-
-| GEN (Crane) || No || No
+| DAN || No || No || Yes || Yes || Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze. Or block until the last uppercut and Counter High/EX HK.
 |-
-| GOUKEN || No || No
+| E.HONDA || No || Yes || No || No ||
 |-
-| GUILE || Yes || Yes
+| EL FUERTE || High || Yes || No || Yes || In the air HK/EX HK will also work against his Ultra.
 |-
-| KEN || Yes || No
+| GOUKEN || No || EX HK || No || EX HK
 |-
-| M.BISON (Dictator) || Yes || Yes
+| KEN || No || No || No || Yes || Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
 |-
-| ROSE || Close || No
+| ROSE || High || Yes || No || No || Ultra: Hold up or EX Demon Flip.
 |-
-| RUFUS || No || No
+| SAGAT || No || No || Yes || Yes || Super can be Countered/EX HK'd, but only if you input it BEFORE the freeze.
 |-
-| RYU || Close || Close
+| SAKURA || Low || Yes || No || No ||
 |-
-| SAGAT || Yes || Yes
+| SETH || ? || ? || ? || ? ||
 |-
-| SAKURA || Yes || No
+| VEGA (Claw) || * || * || No || No || Super can be Countered High or EX HK'd if he goes for the stab.
 |-
-| SETH || Close || No
+| ZANGEIF || No || ? || No || ?
 |-
-| VEGA (Claw) || No || No
+| GEN (Mantis) || No || No || No || No ||
 |-
-| ZANGEIF || No || No
+| GEN (Crane) || No || No || No || No || Hold up or EX Demon Flip.
 |}