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Mid-Air Hit

This is a section devoted to the mid-air hit situation, touched upon in other various topics, but consolidated here.

Receiving hits while in mid-air, from either grounded or air moves, may cause knockdown (tech or untechable). But before that knockdown, follow-up attacks are possible.

Air counter-hit while airborne
- See "Counter Hits" section for allowed follow-ups.
Non-counter-hit special/super while airborne
- Allowed follow-up specials and supers are dependent on the character.

Meanwhile, non-knockdowning, non-counter-hit air hits put you in hitstop, then air hitstun, and then -- after falling -- into an air-hit landing recovery.

Hits of the latter parts of some special/super/TOP attacks while airborne
Normal/evasion attack hits while airborne

Air hitstun is 11F:

You have this window of air hitstun for a special cancel to combo.
Follow-up normals or target combos do not connect during this time.

Similarly, air JDing any attack puts you in air JD blockstop, then air JD blockstun, and then -- after falling -- an air JD landing recovery.

Mid-air JD has 11F JD blockstun:

Every type of hit has this same JD blockstun (weak normal, strong normal, evasion attack, special/super/TOP attack).

(See "Exceptions to JD Blockstun Reduction".)

Another JD can be buffered before JD blockstun ends.

(See "Successive JD's".)

Air Hit Landing Recovery

(Sourced from "0F Move Guard-Impossible Phenomenon".)

After exiting air hitstun while airborne, your sprite is reset, you fall to the ground, and you have 3 frames before you can move again (for Hokutomaru it is 4 frames)

You cannot be hit falling after exiting air hitstun (air invincible) and during these landing frames because there is no hurtbox.

However, during these landing frames' latter half 2 frames, if a 0F move is done, then you are able to avoid it, but not block against it. (On the 1st frame of landing, the 0F move whiffs.)

Air JD Landing Recovery

(Sourced from "Just Defend (JD or JDF)", "0F Move Guard-Impossible Phenomenon", and "JD Buffer Period/Window"

After exiting air JD blockstun while airborne, your sprite is reset, you fall to the ground, and you have 3 frames before you can move again (for Hokutomaru it is 4 frames)

You _can_ be hit while falling after exiting air JD hitstun, unless you air JD again.

But you cannot be hit during these landing frames because there is no hurtbox.

And unlike Air Hit Landing Recovery, there is no "unblockable" situation. The 0F super whiffs on all the landing frames.

Both Air Hit Landing Recovery and Air JD Landing Recovery,

In both cases, the ground JD acceptance window starts the first frame of landing and only after landing recovery can you JD.

Air JD and ground JD do not share cooldown.

So you can hold back in the air, and after an air hit or an air JD, that held back direction will ground JD after exiting landing recovery.

See this link for an example after an air JD.

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-For an added explanation see here:
+===Mid-Air Hit===
-<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
-<br>
-Feint Reversal Timing:
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-Doing movement and other actions after feint or feint cancel
-is similar to reversal timing (see [[#Timing_For_Reversals]]).
-However, the earliest you can do dash forward will be slightly different.
+This is a section devoted to the mid-air hit situation,
+touched upon in other various topics, but consolidated here.
-(1) Doing a feint and going in the direction that's different from the feint direction.
+Receiving hits while in mid-air, from either grounded or air moves, may cause knockdown (tech or untechable).
+But before that knockdown, follow-up attacks are possible.
+* Air counter-hit while airborne
+** See [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Offense#Counter_Hits | "Counter Hits"]] section for allowed follow-ups.
+* Non-counter-hit special/super while airborne
+** Allowed follow-up specials and supers are dependent on the character.
-(2) Doing a feint cancel from a normal without any direction used immediately before.
-;In cases (1) and (2), just holding the direction does end your feint into either walk forward or crouch. And you can reversal dash forward at the following timing.
+Meanwhile, non-knockdowning, non-counter-hit air hits put you in hitstop, then air hitstun,
-;;forward dash step
+and then -- after falling -- into an air-hit landing recovery.
-:1F before the end of the minimum feint frames
+* Hits of the latter parts of some special/super/TOP attacks while airborne
-:1F after minimum feint frames
+* Normal/evasion attack hits while airborne
-:(2F window)
-;;Forward dash run, Freeman forward dash step
-:1F-4F before the end of the minimum feint frames
-:1F after minimum feint frames
-:(5F window)
+Air hitstun is 11F:
+* You have this window of air hitstun for a [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Calculation#The_Role_of_Canceling_for_Combos | special cancel]] to combo.
+* Follow-up normals or target combos do not connect during this time.
-(3) When doing a feint, you cannot end the feint at the minimum feint frames
-by holding that same feint direction through the feint animation.
-(4) Similarly, when doing a feint cancel,
+Similarly, air JDing any attack puts you in air JD blockstop, then air JD blockstun,
-if you are holding a feint direction the frame before the normal button is pressed,
+and then -- after falling -- an air JD landing recovery.
-you cannot end the feint cancel at the minimum feint frames
-by holding that same feint direction through the feint animation.
-;In cases (3) and (4), just holding the direction ''doesn't'' end your feint into either walk forward or crouch -- you have to do an action or other direction.
+Mid-air JD has 11F JD blockstun:
-* Forward feint can be ended with any other direction.
+* Every type of hit has this same JD blockstun (weak normal, strong normal, evasion attack, special/super/TOP attack).
-* Down feint can be ended with any other direction besides down-foward.
+(See [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Defense#Exceptions_to_JD_Blockstun_Reduction | "Exceptions to JD Blockstun Reduction"]].)
-* Consequently, you can jump or hop on the first frame after the minimum feint frames.
+* Another JD can be buffered before JD blockstun ends.
-* You can only press the same direction as the feint direction immediately '''after''' the minimum feint frames to end the feint early.
+(See [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Defense#Successive_JD's | "Successive JD's"]].)
-* Both the '''dash run and the dash step''' can only be completed the earliest '''after''' the minimum feint frames.
-;In all the cases, the earliest to complete other actions to end at the minimum feint frames is the following.
+Air Hit Landing Recovery
-;;Normals, evasion attacks, backdash, super jump, special, T.O.P. attack, super
-:1F before the end of the minimum feint frames
-:1F after minimum feint frames
-:(2F window)
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+(Sourced from [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Advanced_Techniques#0F_Move_Guard-Impossible_Phenomenon | "0F Move Guard-Impossible Phenomenon"]].)
-</div>
+After exiting air hitstun while airborne,
+your sprite is reset, you fall to the ground,
+and you have 3 frames before you can move again (for Hokutomaru it is 4 frames)
+You cannot be hit falling after exiting air hitstun (air invincible) and during these landing frames because [https://twitter.com/kotahugo/status/1529535103021498374 there is no hurtbox].
+However, during these landing frames' latter half 2 frames,
+if a 0F move is done, then you are able to avoid it, but not block against it.
+(On the 1st frame of landing, the 0F move whiffs.)
+Air JD Landing Recovery
+(Sourced from [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Defense#Just_Defend_(JD_or_JDF) | "Just Defend (JD or JDF)"]], [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/System#0F_Move_Guard-Impossible_Phenomenon | "0F Move Guard-Impossible Phenomenon"]], and [[Garou:_Mark_of_the_Wolves/Defense#JD_Buffer_Period/Window | "JD Buffer Period/Window"]]
+After exiting air JD blockstun while airborne,
+your sprite is reset, you fall to the ground,
+and you have 3 frames before you can move again (for Hokutomaru it is 4 frames)
+You _can_ be hit while falling after exiting air JD hitstun, unless you air JD again.
+But you cannot be hit during these landing frames because there is no hurtbox.
+And unlike Air Hit Landing Recovery, there is no "unblockable" situation. The 0F super whiffs on all the landing frames.
+Both Air Hit Landing Recovery and Air JD Landing Recovery,
+In both cases, the ground JD acceptance window starts the first frame of landing and only after landing recovery can you JD.
+Air JD and ground JD '''do not share cooldown'''.
+So you can hold back in the air, and after an air hit or an air JD, that held back direction will ground JD after exiting landing recovery.
+See [https://twitter.com/kotahugo/status/1021103165704417282 this link] for an example after an air JD.