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==Banishing strike combo ( start with CDE outside of raw hit)== | ==Banishing strike combo ( start with CDE outside of raw hit)== | ||
'''Direct hit or A+B boost starter''' | '''Direct hit or A+B boost starter''' | ||
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==Cross down 2C combos (generally starting from raw C+D or A+B boost C+D)== | ==Cross down 2C combos (generally starting from raw C+D or A+B boost C+D)== | ||
The 2C*n part will be done with Souther on the wall side. When you'll do tk 2141236A, the opponent will go to the other wall. | The 2C*n part will be done with Souther on the wall side. When you'll do tk 2141236A, the opponent will go to the other wall. | ||
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~>cross down >2C*9~10>C>E~214214C>E>B>E>C+D>E>B>C>623A*3~4>tk 2141236A | ~>cross down >2C*9~10>C>E~214214C>E>B>E>C+D>E>B>C>623A*3~4>tk 2141236A | ||
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==6B starter== | |||
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corner, 6B→(Non Boost) [A+C dash]*n | |||
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- You get a lot of boost but your opponent too. Mixing it with A+C tk 214A allows you take stars. | |||
==Grave combos, corner== | |||
Juda、shin, mamiya, heart, sauza ~2B2C | |||
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~>A+C >delay JC 214A>A+C>tk 214A>B>C>C> 214A☆☆ | |||
~>A+C, delay JC 214A>A+C>tk 214A, B>C> C+D ☆☆☆ | |||
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Toki, Kenshiro ~2B2C | |||
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~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>close C>214214C or 214A☆ | |||
~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>c.C>2Cf.C>214A ☆ | |||
~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>c.C>far C>2Cfar C>214A☆ | |||
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==Jump Install Grave combos== | |||
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~>A+C >delay JC 214A>close C>6239A>close A close C> 2147A ☆☆☆ | |||
~>A+C >delay JC 214A>close C>6239A>close A close C>C+D>E>2C*n> meaty 214A(vs Rei, Heart) | |||
~>A+C>delay JC 214A>c.C>6239A>A+C>JA 214A>meaty 214A(vs Rei, Heart) | |||
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'''Banju route(doesn't work on Toki, Mamiya, Souther)''' | |||
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~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C >6239A>close D>JACD>close B D>A+C>meaty tk 214A | |||
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'''(meaty tk 214A vs shin)''' | |||
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~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C , 6239A, close D, JACD, close B C , meaty tk 214A | |||
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'''(low height pickup close D)''' | |||
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~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C, 6239A, close D, JABC, jD whiff, 2B A+C meaty tk 214A | |||
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'''(doesn't work on Toki)''' | |||
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~>A+C, delay JC, close C, 6239A, JACD, close B D, A+C, tk 214A | |||
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'''(Normal route when you cant normally land 214A on char like vs. Juda)''' | |||
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~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C, 6239A, JACD, close B C, 2147A | |||
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==Bani Combos Concept== | |||
When to use Bani combos or Grave combos | |||
As Souther, you want to get boost then always press and push the opponent as much as possible into the corner and start your corner okizeme game. In order to optimize your corner carry you need to know when to use either combo. | |||
Generally you want to do: |
Revision as of 19:11, 28 May 2018
This page covers Thouther combos. Before diving right in be sure to familiarize yourself with Thouther's special moves and important normal moves.
Technique
Delay j.C air 214A
Grave , delay chase jump, JC, air 214A ( extreme delay requirred on raoh)
- Midscreen, you'll have to adapt your combo depending on whether air 214A hits once or twice.
Grave-tk 214A
Part that will be used a lot after C+D or B+D. Done easily with 21478A.
Aerial
after a close C, if you tk correctly your special, you will get the grounded version but it will take one star. Useful with spear (62369A/C) and gekiha (2147A). If you're too slow on the cancel, the chase jump will come out.
236A boost
~236A, boost on the second hit.
-Won't become a boost cancel (will only take 20%) but you will recover faster.
Close B>far D, or 2B will connect, and if your opponent guard cancels on 236A's second hit, you should be able to block it (even if it's Mamiya). It has to be linked though, so you need to get used to it.
Can also be used during press.
Cheap boost banishing
There is a way to reduce the boost quantity used by the boost after a boost C+D.
After 2C or far D, do E~C~D instead of E+C+D.
If you do E+C+D, the boost after will cost 50%, but if you do E~C~D correctly, it will only cost 20%.
Really useful when you only have 1 bar.
Basic Combos
No meter, low starter combos
2B*n→236A→236C→236D (doesn't work on crouching Jagi) 2B*n→2C→far D , 236B→236D (doesn't work on crouching Jagi) tk 214A→far D, banishing strike combo (crouching Rei only)☆ 2B*n→A+C, delay JC 214A, (1 hit midscreen) far C, 236C→236D ☆ 2B*n→A+C, delay JC 214A, (1 hit midscreen), A+C, JA→214A, JB→214A (will meaty for oki)☆☆ 2B*n→A+C, delay JC 214A (2 hit midscreen) close C, far C , 236C→236D ☆ 2B*n→grave delay JC 214A (2 hit midscreen) close C 6239A, grave JA→JB→baku ☆☆ 2B*n→A+C delay JC 214A →close C, JA→214A, JB→214A (will meaty for oki)☆☆ 2B close D→JD→falling JC , 214A , close A, close C , 2147A (near corner) ☆ 2B close D→JD→falling JC, 214A, far A, far C , 236A~ 2B close D→HJ JAJBJCJD→close A, close C, 2147A, ☆ 2B2D→623C, dash close A , close C 6329A, close A, close C 2147A ☆☆ 2B2D→623C, dash close A close C,6239A, close A close C, JA→214A, JB→214A (will meaty for oki) ☆☆ |
Overhead Combos
6A> boost 2B close C 6239A, 5A> close C f.C A+C, tk air 214A☆☆ 6A>boost 2B close C 6239A close D JACD> close B Close D A+C tk air 214A ☆☆( doesn't work on Toki Mamiya and Souther) |
If 6A is guarded but 2B hits then go to close C to Grave combos
If both 6A, 2B are guarded then go to close C Grave follow up
Banishing strike combo ( start with CDE outside of raw hit)
Direct hit or A+B boost starter
~>[A+C tk 214A]*2, JBJD 214A, JBJC 214A, IAD j.B >214A or 214214C ☆☆☆ |
tk 214A or 2B2C f.D starter
~>[A+C tk 214A]*2>far A>214A ☆☆☆ |
236C (1hit) starter
~>A+C tk 214A>IAD JB, f.D, Geki ☆☆ |
Cross down 2C combos (generally starting from raw C+D or A+B boost C+D)
The 2C*n part will be done with Souther on the wall side. When you'll do tk 2141236A, the opponent will go to the other wall.
C+D, boost, >2C*2~3>236A, boost, 2C*n> tk 21412236A (doesn't work on Heart) C+D, boost> close D far D, 236A, boost>2C*n> tk 2141236A (doesn't work on Heart) C+D, boost>2C*2>236A, C> 623A , boost, 2C*n>tk 2141236A (vs Heart but not stable) C+D, boost, > close C, close D, far D, 236A, boost>2C*n> tk 2141236A (vs Heart) C+D, boost >2C*2~3>236A 236C 236D, boost, 2C*n , tk 2141236A (good vs all char but need 1.5 boost) |
Cross down 2C 100%
~>cross down >2C*9~10>C>E~214214C>E>B>E>C+D>E>B>C>623A*3~4>tk 2141236A |
6B starter
corner, 6B→(Non Boost) [A+C dash]*n |
- You get a lot of boost but your opponent too. Mixing it with A+C tk 214A allows you take stars.
Grave combos, corner
Juda、shin, mamiya, heart, sauza ~2B2C
~>A+C >delay JC 214A>A+C>tk 214A>B>C>C> 214A☆☆ ~>A+C, delay JC 214A>A+C>tk 214A, B>C> C+D ☆☆☆ |
Toki, Kenshiro ~2B2C
~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>close C>214214C or 214A☆ ~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>c.C>2Cf.C>214A ☆ ~>A+C>delay JC 214A>JAJCJD(>jc>JAJCJD)>c.C>far C>2Cfar C>214A☆ |
Jump Install Grave combos
~>A+C >delay JC 214A>close C>6239A>close A close C> 2147A ☆☆☆ ~>A+C >delay JC 214A>close C>6239A>close A close C>C+D>E>2C*n> meaty 214A(vs Rei, Heart) ~>A+C>delay JC 214A>c.C>6239A>A+C>JA 214A>meaty 214A(vs Rei, Heart) |
Banju route(doesn't work on Toki, Mamiya, Souther)
~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C >6239A>close D>JACD>close B D>A+C>meaty tk 214A |
(meaty tk 214A vs shin)
~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C , 6239A, close D, JACD, close B C , meaty tk 214A |
(low height pickup close D)
~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C, 6239A, close D, JABC, jD whiff, 2B A+C meaty tk 214A |
(doesn't work on Toki)
~>A+C, delay JC, close C, 6239A, JACD, close B D, A+C, tk 214A |
(Normal route when you cant normally land 214A on char like vs. Juda)
~>A+C, delay JC 214A, close C, 6239A, JACD, close B C, 2147A |
Bani Combos Concept
When to use Bani combos or Grave combos
As Souther, you want to get boost then always press and push the opponent as much as possible into the corner and start your corner okizeme game. In order to optimize your corner carry you need to know when to use either combo.
Generally you want to do: