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{{Character Subnav HFTF|name=Alessi}}  
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  |title=Basic Blockstring
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  |subtitle=Relatively safe on block/pushblock
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Easy}}
  |notation=d.2A, 2A, 2A xx 4S
  |content=Great for starting Tech Chases or to set up 4S Jab Resets.
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Wacky Shit
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  |title=Alternative Tech Chase starter
  |subtitle=Somewhat safe on block/pushblock
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Easy}}
  |notation=d.2A xx 5S
  |content=5S can be punishable on hit if the opponent is hit more than once before getting launched.
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236S/Guard Cancel Cancel: Alessi can cancel his GC or 236S into a Custom Combo. This exists, but its viability is arguable: to perform, you need to first whiff a s.[AA]. Then, and only then, can you cancel into Custom Combo during the startup of 236S, or at any point of a Stand ON Guard Cancel. Another problem is that you can't hit or get hit while Stand ON, or the install will be lost. Here it is in action: https://youtu.be/jVG0IepHTMM?t=111 https://twitter.com/otojojo/status/1201489778312527872
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  |title=Crouch Cancel Link
  |subtitle=Tap 2 after 5A, then let go before 5B to crouch cancel
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Basic}}
  |notation=5A CrC 5B xx 4S
  |content=2 frame link that leads to a tech chase or can be followed-up with 6S and dashing jabs in the corner, where it's more useful.
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  |title=4S Launcher Combo
  |subtitle=Won't work on Stand OFF Kaks and Vice.
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Easy}}
  |notation=4S > hj.A xx j.S, j.S
  |content=4S can lead to okizeme on Stand OFF/Passive Stand opponents. Useful to catch opponents off-guard just outside their range or as a medium range fast punish. Remove a j.S if you want.
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Double Stand Attack Glitch: When Alessi is Stand ON and dashes, if you press a button on the last frame of the dash, and then press another on the frame after, Alessi will do both attacks just as the dash ends. The first button you press will come out as the dashing variant, and the second will be the standing version. This is important if you use s.5B with this glitch and/or if your stand is extended. This also means your second normal can be any grounded move you want, including command normals and crouching moves. Recovery on moves when using this glitch is much faster than normal.
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Demonstration: https://youtu.be/9rmeQzB6qm0
  |title=Basic BnB
  |subtitle=Fair damage, leads to okizeme.
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Easy}}
  |notation=d.2A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[, d.5A/2A, (5A/2A)*5, d.j.A (wait for wrap launch) j.S (j.S)
  |content=Make sure to hitconfirm into 214+A on reactionas it's punishable on block. Use 2A against Alessi and 5A against Iggy and Pet Shop after wrap connects.
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[[File:Alessi s.6B Oki.mp4|thumb|for later use]]
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  |title=Basic BnB into 236+AA
  |subtitle=Midscreen only
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Easy}}
  |notation=d.2A 2A 2[A] xx 214+]A[ d.5A/2A (5A/2A)*2 d.j.A (dash to the other side of the screen, wait for wrap launch) 236+AA, d.5A, (wait for last hit) 5A xx 5S
  |content=Decent damage at the expense of 1 bar and okizeme
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  |title=Unscaled Wrap Confirm
  |subtitle=Midscreen only
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Basic}}
  |notation=d.2[A] xx 214+]A[ (d.5A/2A)*3 hyperjump, backdash, (wait for wrap launch) 236+AA d.5A, (wait) 5A xx 5S
  |content=Rubber's dashing attacks don't trigger scaling nor IPS. Great for fast punishes, high risk/high reward on its own otherwise. Avoid using against characters with high defense values or low health as it won't be nearly as effective.
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Alessi Mode s.j.A hit properties; the KneeLow: When using a.s.j.A, its hit properties change depending on what move was used before it. Most of the properties are useless/non applicable (like using hit properties from his child form attacks), however, there is one that's useful. Discovered by KneeCo, using a.s.cl.6C changes the hit properties to a.cl.2A which hits low. If timed correctly, you can get a full combo with a.s.j.A [AB], s.cl.5C, s.]AB[, 214S. Keep in mind that the other player has iframes after coming out of child mode, so it's not a true meaty. Worth using as a knowledge check or if you mess up a child mode combo. [https://youtu.be/gU_3FM7Vw7U Here] is KneeCo using it in a real match.
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  |title=Iggy ToD
 
  |subtitle=Midscreen only
 
  |difficulty={{DifficultyText|Very Advanced}}
On stages with foreground elements, Alessi can conceal himself partially or even entirely while crouching. Here's an example of this in a really good set that you should watch anyway: https://youtu.be/1L45Qx3IUd0
  |notation=4S > hj.A xx j.S, !UBR d.2[A] xx 236+]A[ > d.5A, 5A xx 4S, !UBR late d.2A, d.5A xx 6S d.5A, 5A xx 2S, d.5A, 5A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[ > d.2A, 5A*2, d.j.A, (backdash 5A), (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) 214+A > d.2A, 5A*2, d.j.A, (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) d.2A !UBR xx 2S > d.2A, 2A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[ > d.2A, 5A, hj.A, (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) 360+X
 
  |content=The epitome of Rubber Soul's Combo Potential. All combo extenders, UB Resets, S moves and specials in one combo.
 
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Some Japanese Matches
https://youtu.be/xUf3sIvzV1Y - Great match vs Yoshida (Polnareff) with some screaming casters. Demonstrates a lot of what Alessi can do (good usage of normals, a variety of confirms, Alessi mode bnb, even a Custom Combo loop!) in one short match. I implore anyone who wants to pick up Alessi to watch this. (Can also be found at http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5080205?ss_id=9e3c63dc-3a64-4401-81de-8ef89b2a8320&ss_pos=5&&cp_in=wt_srch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARXIqfUEepo&feature=youtu.be&t=441 - Matches against an Abdul, Alessi, and strangely Khan that showcases some incredible usage of s.63214C. A very good example of defensive Alessi play.
https://youtu.be/c5jFXZkjNKA - Earrape ass, flaky VCR ass recording of an actually great match! Featuring Tonkotsu vs SQ, a more offensive Alessi who displays multiple stand crash combos.
https://youtu.be/3eAPyONm7e8 / https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19450472 - A demonstration of all the child forms using the special mode in the Dreamcast port.
Frame Data
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Alessi frame1.png
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Hitboxes
Collected by guruslum
https://imgur.com/a/KboJi3T
 
 
Baby Forms
Baby Frame Data
Babyframes1.png
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Baby Hitboxes
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https://imgur.com/a/1qCfabg
 
 
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Latest revision as of 10:58, 12 May 2025

Basic Blockstring Relatively safe on block/pushblock Easy

d.2A, 2A, 2A xx 4S
Great for starting Tech Chases or to set up 4S Jab Resets.


Alternative Tech Chase starter Somewhat safe on block/pushblock Easy

d.2A xx 5S
5S can be punishable on hit if the opponent is hit more than once before getting launched.


Crouch Cancel Link Tap 2 after 5A, then let go before 5B to crouch cancel Basic

5A CrC 5B xx 4S
2 frame link that leads to a tech chase or can be followed-up with 6S and dashing jabs in the corner, where it's more useful.


4S Launcher Combo Won't work on Stand OFF Kaks and Vice. Easy

4S > hj.A xx j.S, j.S
4S can lead to okizeme on Stand OFF/Passive Stand opponents. Useful to catch opponents off-guard just outside their range or as a medium range fast punish. Remove a j.S if you want.


Basic BnB Fair damage, leads to okizeme. Easy

d.2A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[, d.5A/2A, (5A/2A)*5, d.j.A (wait for wrap launch) j.S (j.S)
Make sure to hitconfirm into 214+A on reactionas it's punishable on block. Use 2A against Alessi and 5A against Iggy and Pet Shop after wrap connects.


Basic BnB into 236+AA Midscreen only Easy

d.2A 2A 2[A] xx 214+]A[ d.5A/2A (5A/2A)*2 d.j.A (dash to the other side of the screen, wait for wrap launch) 236+AA, d.5A, (wait for last hit) 5A xx 5S
Decent damage at the expense of 1 bar and okizeme


Unscaled Wrap Confirm Midscreen only Basic

d.2[A] xx 214+]A[ (d.5A/2A)*3 hyperjump, backdash, (wait for wrap launch) 236+AA d.5A, (wait) 5A xx 5S
Rubber's dashing attacks don't trigger scaling nor IPS. Great for fast punishes, high risk/high reward on its own otherwise. Avoid using against characters with high defense values or low health as it won't be nearly as effective.


Iggy ToD Midscreen only Very Advanced

4S > hj.A xx j.S, !UBR d.2[A] xx 236+]A[ > d.5A, 5A xx 4S, !UBR late d.2A, d.5A xx 6S d.5A, 5A xx 2S, d.5A, 5A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[ > d.2A, 5A*2, d.j.A, (backdash 5A), (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) 214+A > d.2A, 5A*2, d.j.A, (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) d.2A !UBR xx 2S > d.2A, 2A, 2[A] xx 214+]A[ > d.2A, 5A, hj.A, (backdash) (wait for Iggy to almost hit the ground) 360+X
The epitome of Rubber Soul's Combo Potential. All combo extenders, UB Resets, S moves and specials in one combo.