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-standing strong (close)- Victor does a swiping chop. Recovery of the charged and uncharged versions follow in the same manner as the far s.strong(with the electrified version having more startup). BUT, since you're already quite close to the enemy to be doing a s.strong(c), you should Always do an electrified version. (which is normally during wakeup, to prevent them from jumping) | -standing strong (close)- Victor does a swiping chop. Recovery of the charged and uncharged versions follow in the same manner as the far s.strong(with the electrified version having more startup). BUT, since you're already quite close to the enemy to be doing a s.strong(c), you should Always do an electrified version. (which is normally during wakeup, to prevent them from jumping). With it hitting or guarded, canceling into c.mk is a worthwhile habit to pick up. | ||
-standing fierce - I love electrictrified far s.fierce. It hits high for the most part(mid for the larger character), and comes out decently enough to punish moves/movements that are about to happen. The range allows for victor to use it from a considerable distance as well. It falls weak to fast jumpers though, where the coarse of action [of course] is to use it more sparingly(though, don't spam it against normal characters normally anyway....common sense pple). cancel to c.rk if you hit(for that extra bit of meter) | -standing fierce - I love electrictrified far s.fierce. It hits high for the most part(mid for the larger character), and comes out decently enough to punish moves/movements that are about to happen. The range allows for victor to use it from a considerable distance as well. It falls weak to fast jumpers though, where the coarse of action [of course] is to use it more sparingly(though, don't spam it against normal characters normally anyway....common sense pple). cancel to c.rk if you hit(for that extra bit of meter) | ||
close standing strong is a hammer fist, with the hitboxes going from above victor's head, to in front of him. I believe it hits most crouching opponents as well(which far fierce doesn't always do), ensuring you don't wiff. It makes for a decent wakeup too, but too often(due to the startup), if victor is this close to the opponent, you're better off using shorts or jabs. | |||
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-standing forward - standing forward's hitboxes are near the same as s.mp, if only a bit slower on startup & recovery. Also, since mk is later in the hunter chain(lp, lk, mp, <b>mk</b>, hp, rk), you only have c.rk as an option to cancel into, provided you hit. as far as standing pokes go, stick with electrified s.mp, and s.mk | -standing forward - standing forward's hitboxes are near the same as s.mp, if only a bit slower on startup & recovery. Also, since mk is later in the hunter chain(lp, lk, mp, <b>mk</b>, hp, rk), you only have c.rk as an option to cancel into, provided you hit. as far as standing pokes go, stick with electrified s.mp, and s.mk | ||
close standing forward is a non-bufferable ass cheek attack. I don't use it often, and cannot comment much about it. Victor is left at a +1 frame advantage hit, and -13 blocked(meh) electrified or not, his c.mk or far s.mk are the more worthwhile choices to use of this normal. | |||
-standing roundhouse- s.rk aims for above the average character's head. electrified, it makes for a high priority AA... if it hits. the startup is quite slow, and wiffing a s.rk(like all of his standing electrified normals) means you're asking to get punished. having good intuition/abilitiy to read the opponent is the only way this move can be practical. | -standing roundhouse- s.rk aims for above the average character's head. electrified, it makes for a high priority AA... if it hits. the startup is quite slow, and wiffing a s.rk(like all of his standing electrified normals) means you're asking to get punished. having good intuition/abilitiy to read the opponent is the only way this move can be practical. | ||
close standing roundhouse is a knockdown capable ass cheek attack(also non-bufferable). again, I have similar opinion of it as close s.mk(it can't be comboed into though, since the knockback from chains normally puts him too far away for this to come out) | |||
Revision as of 18:14, 28 September 2007
Introduction
Victor, aka the Frankenstein. He's the token grappler of Vampire Savior. Vic has neither airdash, [conventional] hop, nor quick overhead. This being the case, Victor relies on zoning, high priority moves, and pressure/throw mixups. A majority of his moves have an alternative electrified version, which chips(white damage), and gives Victor's normals their augmented priority. While Victor's offense relies on merely pressure, throw setups, and zoning, patience, good intuition and decent defensive measures are all that victor needs to balance and excel in a match.
Noteworthy normals
**Note: All of Victor's "medium" and "hard" normals have electricity forms, which are performed simply by holding the button down a bit longer than usual.(maybe a half second longer... not even). His electrified normals can nullify ALL normal projectiles(not EX/ES'd)
Standing Normals
-standing jab - Victor does a jab that hits mid up close, with a hitbox that goes from around his waist, to near his head. Its all purpose, and does not change close nor far & has no electric version. Somewhat standard, with not much to say. It is bufferable, which allows it to be used in [simple]combos.
-standing strong (far)- Victor does a gut punch that shoots from his waist. It hits mid against all characters but qbee(-_-). The charged s.strong(far) has GREAT priority, and hits most crouching chatacters(except qbee-_-, a few others that i can't think of), but suffers from stupid recovery if you miss.
The uncharged s.strong(far) does recover faster, but its priority isn't anything to write for. Use primarily the charged version. ^_^
s.strong(far, elec)XXc.mk is a staple poke for victor, despite the risk of wiffing(i.e. use is smart).
-standing strong (close)- Victor does a swiping chop. Recovery of the charged and uncharged versions follow in the same manner as the far s.strong(with the electrified version having more startup). BUT, since you're already quite close to the enemy to be doing a s.strong(c), you should Always do an electrified version. (which is normally during wakeup, to prevent them from jumping). With it hitting or guarded, canceling into c.mk is a worthwhile habit to pick up.
-standing fierce - I love electrictrified far s.fierce. It hits high for the most part(mid for the larger character), and comes out decently enough to punish moves/movements that are about to happen. The range allows for victor to use it from a considerable distance as well. It falls weak to fast jumpers though, where the coarse of action [of course] is to use it more sparingly(though, don't spam it against normal characters normally anyway....common sense pple). cancel to c.rk if you hit(for that extra bit of meter)
close standing strong is a hammer fist, with the hitboxes going from above victor's head, to in front of him. I believe it hits most crouching opponents as well(which far fierce doesn't always do), ensuring you don't wiff. It makes for a decent wakeup too, but too often(due to the startup), if victor is this close to the opponent, you're better off using shorts or jabs.
-standing short- somewhat generic of a s.short. It hits mid, and is low enough to hit all crouching characters(its max distance is longer than s.lp), and is bufferable, which's always a plus.
-standing forward - standing forward's hitboxes are near the same as s.mp, if only a bit slower on startup & recovery. Also, since mk is later in the hunter chain(lp, lk, mp, mk, hp, rk), you only have c.rk as an option to cancel into, provided you hit. as far as standing pokes go, stick with electrified s.mp, and s.mk
close standing forward is a non-bufferable ass cheek attack. I don't use it often, and cannot comment much about it. Victor is left at a +1 frame advantage hit, and -13 blocked(meh) electrified or not, his c.mk or far s.mk are the more worthwhile choices to use of this normal.
-standing roundhouse- s.rk aims for above the average character's head. electrified, it makes for a high priority AA... if it hits. the startup is quite slow, and wiffing a s.rk(like all of his standing electrified normals) means you're asking to get punished. having good intuition/abilitiy to read the opponent is the only way this move can be practical.
close standing roundhouse is a knockdown capable ass cheek attack(also non-bufferable). again, I have similar opinion of it as close s.mk(it can't be comboed into though, since the knockback from chains normally puts him too far away for this to come out)
-Standing Normal Frame Data -
Name | State | Startup | Hit adv | Blk adv | Buff | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Jab | Close | 5 | +8 | +7 | y | H/L |
Far | 5 | +8 | +7 | y | H/L | |
Strong | Close | 6 | 0 | -1 | n | H/L |
Far | 6 | 0 | -1 | n | H/L | |
Fierce | Close | 11 | kd | -19 | n | H/L |
Far | 11 | kd | -19 | n | H/L | |
Short | Close | 5 | +6 | +5 | y | H/L |
Far | 5 | +6 | +5 | y | H/L | |
Forward | Close | 6 | -2 | -3 | y | H/L |
Far | 6 | -2 | -3 | y | H/L | |
Roundhouse | Close | 7 | +4 | +3 | n | H/L |
Far | 8 | -7 | -8 | n | H/L |
Crouching Normals
c.lp -
c.mp -
c.fierce -
c.lk -
c.mk -
c.rk -
-CrouchingNormal Frame Data -
Name | State | Startup | Hit adv | Blk adv | Buff | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Jab | crouching | 5 | +9 | +8 | y | H/L |
Strong | crouching | 7 | kd | -1 | n | H/L |
Fierce | crouching | 7 | kd | -11 | n | L |
Short | crouching | 5 | +7 | +6 | y | L |
Forward | crouching | 7 | +1 | 0 | n | L |
Roundhouse | crouching | 8 | kd | -1 | n | L |
Jumping Normals
- j.lp -
- j.mp -
- j.hp -
- j.lk, d.rk -
- j.rk(neutral) -
-Jumping Normal Frame Data -
>Name | State | Startup | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|
Jab | jumping | 5 | H |
Strong | jumping | 6 | H |
Fierce | jumping | 11 | H |
Short | jumping | 5 | H |
Forward | jumping | 6 | H |
Roundhouse | jumping | 7 | H |
Down+Roundhouse | jumping | 10 | H |
Dashing Normals
-Dashing Normal Frame Data -
Name | State | Startup | Hit Adv | Blk Adv | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Jab | dashing | 4 | +4 | +3 | H/L |
Strong | dashing | 5 | +6 | +5 | H/L |
Fierce | dashing | 8 | -10 | -11 | H/L |
Short | dashing | 4 | +4 | +3 | L |
Forward | dashing | 6 | +1 | 0 | L |
Roundhouse | dashing | 7 | kd/td> | -1 | L |
Name | Direction | Type | Startup | Acrive | Recovery |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Dash | Forward | Ground | 6 | 14 | 9 |
Dash | Backwards | Hop | - | - | 14 |
*Optimized chain combo- I'm pretty sure this is necessary...what do I mean by this? all the different chains that every character has... theres of course one route through all those chains that each character has that does the most damage.(to be removed)
I'm pretty sure this is aubaths(I'm gunna check tonight...heh) cuz I see the japs doing it during the bubble trap.
(jumpin), c.lk, s.mp, s.mk, c.rk
*Bufferable normals:
- s.lp, c.lp
- s.lk, c.lk
- s.mk
Specials
-Special Move Frame Data -
Name | Strength | Startup | Hit adv | Blk adv | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Sonic Wave | Jab | 15 | +63 | +2 | H/L |
Strong | 16 | +59 | -2 | H/L | |
Fierce | 18 | +52 | -6 | H/L | |
ES | 15 | +63 | +2 | H/L | |
Poison Gas | Short | 28 | +61 | 0 | H/L |
Forward | 30 | +57 | -4 | H/L | |
Roundhouse | 34 | +52 | -9 | H/L | |
ES | 28 | +61 | 0 | H/L | |
Tricky Fish | Short | 25 | kd | -9 | H/L |
Forward | 25 | kd | -9 | H/L | |
Roundhouse | 26 | kd | -10 | H/L | |
ES | 25 | kd | -14 | H/L | |
Cataract Cry | Strong | 2 | kd | - | UBK |
Fierce | 2 | kd | - | UBK | |
ES | 2 | kd | - | UBK | |
Gem's Anger | Forward | 7 | kd | - | UBK |
Roundhouse | 7 | kd | - | UBK | |
ES | 7 | kd | - | UBK | |
Pursuit | Regular | 38 | - | - | |
ES | 35 | - | - |
*note: Aubath's pursuit has 8 frames of recovery.
Supers & Dark Force
Dark Force "Ocean Rage"
-EX Move Frame Data -(to be changed)
Name | Req meter | Startup | Hit adv | Blk adv | Blk pos |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Water Jail | 1 | 40 | - | - | UBL |
Aqua Spread | 1 | 42 | kd | -3 | H/L |
Sea Rage | 1 | 28 | +7 | -11 | H/L |
Direct Scissor | 3 | 25 | kd | -23 | H |
Dark Force | 1 | 32 | - | - | - |